WTH Tactico? SBDX012 "homage"

jimyritz · Post by **jimyritz** » Fri Nov 13, 2015 4:38 am

Plenty of affordable "genuine" Seikos available instead of that..

I'd go without before I strapped that on..

kempoman · Post by **kempoman** » Fri Nov 13, 2015 5:28 am

I would think if this is a titanium copy it might please a lot of MM300 hefty weight haters.

hoppes-no9 · Post by **hoppes-no9** » Fri Nov 13, 2015 6:53 am

I don't care if it's a copy, homage, or whatever.

Fact is, the hands and markers they chose look like ASS compared to the original.

DEMO · Post by **DEMO** » Fri Nov 13, 2015 8:00 am

Price at the current exchange rate is about $500.

Specs from the Tactico web site:

Dimensions:
• Bezel diameter: 42mm
• Case diameter: 43,50mm
• Total thickness: 15,25mm
• Thickness without sapphire crystal: 14mm
• Length: 48mm
• Crystal diameter: 31mm
• Crystal thickness: 3mm
• Strap wide: 22mm
• Crown diameter: 7mm
• Bezel thickness: 4mm

Meterials:
• Case, crown, case back cover and bezel made of 316L stainless steel. Brushed and polished finished
• Bezel inlay and main crystal made of sapphire
• Viton and tefzel gaskets
• Rubber for straps and nylon for NATO strap
• BGW9 Superluminova for dial and hands
• Dark yellow Superluminova for bezel pearl
• Solid 316L stainless steel custom bracelet with diver extension clasp offered like spare part

Features:
• Japan TMI SII NE15 movement (SEIKO)
• Applied indexes and date window frame
• ANKO name applied over dial
• Dark grey soleil effect dial
• Crown and case back cover screwed down
• 1000 meters water resistant
• Double domed sapphire crystal with AR on inner side
• Limited Edition

Kit:
• Watch
• Waterproof suitcase
• Bonetto Cinturini rubber strap
• Custom NATO strap
• Bars remove tool
• Cleaning cloth
• Warranty card
• Booklet
• Extra bars

Disc Golfer 209 · Post by **Disc Golfer 209** » Fri Nov 13, 2015 6:49 pm

I'll most likely be picking one up preowned when they start being flipped. Just don't like preorders.

They took a legendary unobtainable piece that I wouldn't want to own ever (wouldn't want to save that much money for it) and improved on it making it more appealing to the eye and budget.

Love that sapphire bezel, the vintage accents and will come to with sweet ratchet clasp.

Can't find anything not to love except I can't own it yet.

Kudos to them.

r.palace · Post by **r.palace** » Sat Nov 14, 2015 5:27 am

Disc Golfer 209 wrote:I'll most likely be picking one up preowned when they start being flipped. Just don't like preorders.

They took a legendary unobtainable piece that I wouldn't want to own ever (wouldn't want to save that much money for it) and improved on it making it more appealing to the eye and budget.

Love that sapphire bezel, the vintage accents and will come to with sweet ratchet clasp.

Can't find anything not to love except I can't own it yet.

Kudos to them.

Are we looking at the same watch?

Disc Golfer 209 · Post by **Disc Golfer 209** » Sat Nov 14, 2015 12:10 pm

It's a homage to 6159-7000 model. Yeah, far from obtainable for me and I wouldn't pay what the command.

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The watch it pays homage to costs 7-10 times as much.

Torrid · Post by **Torrid** » Sat Nov 14, 2015 6:44 pm

I'd just pony up for the modern MM personally. There's something odd about the homage dial.

Axelay2003 · Post by **Axelay2003** » Mon Nov 16, 2015 6:06 am

From what I gather the "COS" logo on the second hand is no longer there.

Here is the link to the most updated photos.

http://www.tacticowatches.com/styled/st ... index.html

Post by **toxicavenger** » Mon Nov 16, 2015 6:39 am

Axelay2003 wrote:From what I gather the "COS" logo on the second hand is no longer there.

Here is the link to the most updated photos.

http://www.tacticowatches.com/styled/st ... index.html

looks better without it for sure, i just wish they were doing a homage they should have kept the dial exactly like it was

dnslater · Post by **dnslater** » Mon Nov 16, 2015 8:53 am

Disc Golfer 209 wrote:It's a homage to 6159-7000 model. Yeah, far from obtainable for me and I wouldn't pay what the command.

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The watch it pays homage to costs 7-10 times as much.

Yes, but the Seiko MM300 is also a homage to this watch and costs only 2-3x as much.

jeckyll · Post by **jeckyll** » Mon Nov 16, 2015 12:31 pm

Mm300 is Currently available brand new for $1490 brand new at massdrop
:-)

Edit: did I say 'brand new' ?!?

T.R. · Post by **T.R.** » Mon Nov 16, 2015 12:48 pm

With that crappy Anko name so huge and ugly looking, the terrible seconds hand "design" and the square markers I find this watch to look like shit. Horrible. It has the basic shape and coloration of the Seiko 6159-7001, but the similarity ends there.

Edit, just saw the seconds hand has been changed. At $500 I could see the appeal to some buyers.

Each to his own.

Not my style at all.

Post by **toxicavenger** » Tue Dec 08, 2015 1:18 pm

More details-
ClubOkieS the Spanish watch forum of Seiko lovers, and Tactico Watches, have been working together to revise the original SEIKO 6159-7001, aka “Grand Seiko Diver” or “Seiko Holy Grail”.

The result of this partnership has been the TACTICO ANKO 1000M, a tribute to the most spectacular, historical and difficult to find Seiko diver watch.

All the information about this project is at httpa//www.clubokies.com/:::ClubOkieS - Portal. Also at info@tacticowatches.com

Dimensions:
Bezel diameter: 42mm
Case diameter: 43,50mm
Total thickness: 15,25mm
Thickness without sapphire crystal: 14mm
Length: 48mm
Crystal diameter: 31mm
Crystal thickness: 3mm
Strap wide: 22mm
Crown diameter: 7mm
Bezel thickness: 4mm

Materials:
Case, crown, case back cover and bezel made of 316L stainless steel. Brushed and polished finished
Bezel inlay and main crystal made of sapphire
Viton and tefzel gaskets
Rubber for straps and nylon for NATO strap
BGW9 Superluminova for dial and hands. Dark yellow Superluminova for bezel pearl
Solid 316L stainless steel custom bracelet with diver extension clasp offered like spare part

Features:
Japan TMI SII NE15 movement (SEIKO)
Applied indexes and date window frame
ANKO name applied over dial
Dark grey soleil effect dial
Crown and case back cover screwed down.
1000 meters water resistant.
Double domed sapphire crystal with AR on inner side.
Limited Edition

Kit:
Watch
Waterproof suitcase
Bonetto Cinturini rubber strap
Custom NATO strap
Bars remove tool
Cleaning cloth
Warranty card
Booklet
Extra bars

PRICE: 475 euros for non European residents (the payment will be done in 3 times during the manufacturing process) European residents must add 21% of Spanish VAT.

Post by **toxicavenger** » Tue Dec 08, 2015 1:22 pm

Axelay2003 · Post by **Axelay2003** » Tue Dec 08, 2015 1:24 pm

That is the shit right there, IMO. I wish they had the Grey brushed dial proto. That black dial and the gold really is a beauty.

Post by **toxicavenger** » Tue Dec 08, 2015 1:34 pm

I think it looks pretty good. I do believe that stupid lume dot on the back of the case with wear a hole into your wrist and I not sure about the stepped case around the bracelet on the back of the watch. Maybe the case was stamped and this is why it looks like that?

Dare to say I think it follows the 6159 pretty good. And for 475 euro it is a doable price.

Axelay2003 · Post by **Axelay2003** » Tue Dec 08, 2015 1:47 pm

475 Euros is doable for sure. I agree with the lumed dot. It may cause an indentation, but probably minor. They should have recessed it or done away with it completely. The lug link looks stamped, oh well.

Ryeguy · Post by **Ryeguy** » Tue Dec 08, 2015 1:57 pm

toxicavenger wrote:I think it looks pretty good. I do believe that stupid lume dot on the back of the case with wear a hole into your wrist and I not sure about the stepped case around the bracelet on the back of the watch. Maybe the case was stamped and this is why it looks like that? Dare to say I think it follows the 6159 pretty good. And for 475 euro it is a doable price.

There is no way they are making enough of those watches to warrant creating the die to stamp those cases. With only a couple hundred examples being made, I've got to think those cases were just cut from bar stock on a CNC machine.

Even if they did stamp them out, I would think they purposely milled out that stepped area between the lugs. Maybe there is a historical reason for this?

Quick edit after looking at the photo again - it looks like the step is more due to the end link than the case. The end link was machined to not fill the entire lug depth. No idea what purpose this serves other than maybe to reduce weight?

Post by **toxicavenger** » Tue Dec 08, 2015 2:15 pm

Ryeguy wrote:
toxicavenger wrote:I think it looks pretty good. I do believe that stupid lume dot on the back of the case with wear a hole into your wrist and I not sure about the stepped case around the bracelet on the back of the watch. Maybe the case was stamped and this is why it looks like that? Dare to say I think it follows the 6159 pretty good. And for 475 euro it is a doable price.
There is no way they are making enough of those watches to warrant creating the die to stamp those cases. With only a couple hundred examples being made, I've got to think those cases were just cut from bar stock on a CNC machine.

Even if they did stamp them out, I would think they purposely milled out that stepped area between the lugs. Maybe there is a historical reason for this?

Quick edit after looking at the photo again - it looks like the step is more due to the end link than the case. The end link was machined to not fill the entire lug depth. No idea what purpose this serves other than maybe to reduce weight?

I agree, it is weird. Phillips pic shows the MM and 6159 casebacks.

dnslater · Post by **dnslater** » Tue Dec 08, 2015 4:46 pm

The whole "clubokies" thing seems cheesy on the caseback. Is the case monolithic?

5661nicholas · Post by **5661nicholas** » Tue Dec 08, 2015 4:58 pm

I like how it looks, I just like how the real MM300 looks more.

Post by **toxicavenger** » Tue Dec 08, 2015 5:08 pm

dnslater wrote:The whole "clubokies" thing seems cheesy on the caseback. Is the case monolithic?

I am not sure, but if it isn't I don't know how they would open since I don't see any notches on it.

alis_aquilae · Post by **alis_aquilae** » Wed Dec 09, 2015 8:39 am

Hello, I'm new to this forum, but I've been following the Anko for a while. I own a SBDX012 and am immensely happy with it. I wear it all the time, to the exception of everything else. I was thinking of getting the ANKO as a beater version of my 012? Is this crazy?

Post by **toxicavenger** » Wed Dec 09, 2015 9:32 am

alis_aquilae wrote:Hello, I'm new to this forum, but I've been following the Anko for a while. I own a SBDX012 and am immensely happy with it. I wear it all the time, to the exception of everything else. I was thinking of getting the ANKO as a beater version of my 012? Is this crazy?

It is according to whether you are a collector or a "wearer". If it was me the 012 would stay on my wrist fulltime, it would be a waste to not enjoy it.

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