Shogun vs MM300

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Re: Shogun vs MM300

Post by cali kid » Sun Dec 08, 2013 11:01 am

To me the Shogun looks like an expensive Sumo... :shrug: have always liked the look, finish work on the MM300.... To be honest I know nothing of these newer Seiko as mine are all from the 70's but always wanted to try a Sumo mainly because of the price point.. :oops:
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Re: Shogun vs MM300

Post by hoppyjr » Sun Dec 08, 2013 12:17 pm

I've never seen the MM300 in person, but I'm sure its nicer. The Shogun is a great watch and wears great because of the titanium construction. I Brightz Titanium MM300 would be perfect....

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Re: Shogun vs MM300

Post by lorsban » Sun Dec 08, 2013 2:11 pm

gonzomantis wrote:I wish I could see them both. The MM has always interested me, but I fear the size would be too big for a 6.5 inch type of guy.
I have the same issue...definitely have to try them on first.

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Re: Shogun vs MM300

Post by toxicavenger » Mon Dec 09, 2013 9:57 am

gonzomantis wrote:I wish I could see them both. The MM has always interested me, but I fear the size would be too big for a 6.5 inch type of guy.
Mike, I wear a Nettuno and it fits perfect but the way the bottom of the MM case bevels in it actually fits almost the same. So you definitely could pull it off. It fits better than a 42mm Tridente imo. :thumbsup:

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Re: Shogun vs MM300

Post by mellonb1 » Mon Dec 09, 2013 10:29 am

After owning the Sumo & Shogun they are so very different. Both wore amazingly comfortable and probably the most comfortable watches I've owned. Sumo's a hell of a watch with its only big downfall being the long lugs. Not a bracelet guy so wearing it on rubber, leather or canvas is a no go unless you don't mind the huge gap. Nothing bad to say about the Shogun. The dial always looked a bit cheap to me but so did my Emperor, Darth & my other Tuna's so maybe it's just me. Sumo may be the better value but that's open to debate as one may place a higher value on a Ti finish. Never handled a MM300 but I'm sure it's on a another level. Looks like a well built piece.

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Re: Shogun vs MM300

Post by lorsban » Tue Dec 10, 2013 2:51 pm

What I like about the MM is the classic design. Looks like something from the 60s.

The Shogun looks like a modern "super-sub" like the Tudor Pelagos. Someone should post a vs thread about these 2 but obviously the Tudor will be on top being 3-4x more expensive? Still I think the Seiko could give it a run.

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Re: Shogun vs MM300

Post by Rick448 » Tue Dec 10, 2013 3:10 pm

Here is my new Shogun. The MM300 should be with me by the end of the week so I'll have a direct comparison then.

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Re: Shogun vs MM300

Post by dukerules » Tue Dec 10, 2013 3:19 pm

lorsban wrote:What I like about the MM is the classic design. Looks like something from the 60s.

The Shogun looks like a modern "super-sub" like the Tudor Pelagos. Someone should post a vs thread about these 2 but obviously the Tudor will be on top being 3-4x more expensive? Still I think the Seiko could give it a run.

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Re: Shogun vs MM300

Post by gonzomantis » Tue Dec 10, 2013 4:26 pm

lorsban wrote:What I like about the MM is the classic design. Looks like something from the 60s.

The Shogun looks like a modern "super-sub" like the Tudor Pelagos. Someone should post a vs thread about these 2 but obviously the Tudor will be on top being 3-4x more expensive? Still I think the Seiko could give it a run.
Funny you should mention these two. I've got them both on the short list.

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Re: Shogun vs MM300

Post by spring-diver » Fri Dec 13, 2013 11:11 pm

Congrats Rick on your Shogun!....it's an excellent piece :thumbsup:


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Re: Shogun vs MM300

Post by Rick448 » Fri Dec 20, 2013 2:19 pm

Got the MM300 and love it, I much prefer it to the Shogun, though that is now my daily wearer and I have it on the bracelet now.

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Re: Shogun vs MM300

Post by seikomatic » Thu Jan 02, 2014 7:39 pm

personally hands of the shogun is the weakest line....
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Re: Shogun vs MM300

Post by marchone » Thu Jan 02, 2014 10:14 pm

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Re: Shogun vs MM300

Post by CesarG » Thu Jan 02, 2014 10:22 pm

I would put the MM600 under the MM300

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Re: Shogun vs MM300

Post by toxicavenger » Fri Jan 03, 2014 5:22 am

CesarG wrote:I would put the MM600 under the MM300
How true, for me the 600 is pushing the gaudy line to much

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Re: Shogun vs MM300

Post by lorsban » Mon Jan 27, 2014 2:36 am

How's servicing for the MM300? Is it true they can only service in Japan?

If so, that's a major issue.

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Re: Shogun vs MM300

Post by toxicavenger » Mon Jan 27, 2014 5:01 am

lorsban wrote:How's servicing for the MM300? Is it true they can only service in Japan?

If so, that's a major issue.
IWW and MCWW can service it in the US.

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Re: Shogun vs MM300

Post by marchone » Mon Jan 27, 2014 5:18 am

CesarG wrote:I would put the MM600 under the MM300
The price structure suggests otherwise. Nevermind the MM600 is Spring Drive.

In any case, I just snagged Jason's Shogun sight unseen. The dimensions seem to work for me. I had a MM300 in my hands some months back at Red Bar. It was too tall for my tastes and the dial seemed cramped.
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Re: Shogun vs MM300

Post by matt.wu » Mon Jan 27, 2014 9:02 am

marchone wrote:
CesarG wrote:I would put the MM600 under the MM300
The price structure suggests otherwise. Nevermind the MM600 is Spring Drive.

In any case, I just snagged Jason's Shogun sight unseen. The dimensions seem to work for me. I had a MM300 in my hands some months back at Red Bar. It was too tall for my tastes and the dial seemed cramped.
Shogun rocks. I'm one of the few, but I'd pick it over the MM300 any day.

Did I already say that in this thread? I don't feel like checking. :)

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Re: Shogun vs MM300

Post by jln319 » Mon Jan 27, 2014 11:21 am

Have them both. Definitly the Shogun for me. Wear the Shogun on a nato much more than the MM300. In fact I thinking about selling the MM300...
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Re: Shogun vs MM300

Post by marchone » Mon Jan 27, 2014 11:57 am

Thanks, Matt. I'm psyched. Haven't bought a watch in over a year. That was my brief fling with micros.

I'd also like to see a Shogun next to a Pelagos. Maybe Jason will share his ownership experience with both of them. He did mention the Shogun is more accurate than his Pelagos.
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Re: Shogun vs MM300

Post by lorsban » Mon Jan 27, 2014 11:41 pm

jln319 wrote:Have them both. Definitly the Shogun for me. Wear the Shogun on a nato much more than the MM300. In fact I thinking about selling the MM300...
I hope you don't mind my asking, but what specifically do you like about the Shogun more?

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Re: Shogun vs MM300

Post by andrema » Tue Jan 28, 2014 8:11 am

The Shogun is about the size of the Sumo...right.

Here is a comparison of the Sumo and MM300

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The MM300 is my pick over the Shogun...case, bezel, clasp, stance...any day over the Shogun imo...
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Re: Shogun vs MM300

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Re: Shogun vs MM300

Post by Torrid » Tue Jan 28, 2014 8:32 am

andrema wrote:The Shogun is about the size of the Sumo...right.

Here is a comparison of the Sumo and MM300

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The MM300 is my pick over the Shogun...case, bezel, clasp, stance...any day over the Shogun imo...
Damn, I do need the MM300. I love my Sumo, but have always found it a bit big. I bet the MM300 would be perfect on my wrist just like the Tuna.

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