Red Wing Boots Question

jad3703 · Post by **jad3703** » Tue Dec 11, 2012 7:37 am

Gents,

As you know, I have run a bit amok lately with some boot purchases. All to the good, but I just got an email from the seller of the Red Wing Beckmans that I bought, saying that he did not actually have them in my desired size / colour.

So, here's my quandry: I am contemplating getting a pair of Iron Rangers, instead. I normally take a size 10 in boots, so am going down to a size 9.5, based on recommendations from the seller as well as my experience with size 9 versus size 10 try-ons at a local store (and several people who have told me that Red Wins tend to fit a bit big, so going down a half size is a good idea. And I am right in between a size 9.5 and a size 10, anyway, depending on the boot). But, I also normally need a bit wider boot (E or even EE, depending on the manufacturer).

Long-winded explanation above, but here's my question: can I get away with normal D width or do I need a E / EE in the Iron Ranger line?

Thanks, gents.

James

Post by **matt.wu** » Tue Dec 11, 2012 7:42 am

http://thedivewatchconnection.com/forum ... 67&t=23249

IME, the IR's are a smidge on the narrow side. I don't have particular wide or narrow feet either way though, so I just went with the D-widths and they fit fine. But even visually, they seem narrower.

justsellbrgs · Post by **justsellbrgs** » Tue Dec 11, 2012 7:43 am

James, I think moishlashen is going to tell you the IRs run slightly narrow as compared to the Beckman's...

jad3703 · Post by **jad3703** » Tue Dec 11, 2012 7:49 am

justsellbrgs wrote:James, I think moishlashen is going to tell you the IRs run slightly narrow as compared to the Beckman's...

And that's what I am afraid off. The Beckmans I tried on / ordered were slightly narrow at the D width, but I was confident that, with a bit of working in and oil, they would be perfect. I just get the sense that the IRs, like Matt said, look a bit narrower ... and I really dislike narrow footwear; it is one of my piss-offs that has made me get rid of many a pair of shoes / boots.

The Chipps I got are 9 1/2EE and I think will be perfect.

James

moishlashen · Post by **moishlashen** » Tue Dec 11, 2012 7:51 am

I'd get the EE James. Amber Harness and Hawthornes come in EE width I believe-I'll check. Black and Copper rough and tough don't. They're narrow. I have a borderline wide foot and I can wear them but break in was a painfull bastard-something I'm sure you're familiar with.

Post by **CGSshorty** » Tue Dec 11, 2012 8:07 am

Rangers are definitely narrower than Beckmans.

jad3703 · Post by **jad3703** » Tue Dec 11, 2012 8:08 am

moishlashen wrote:I'd get the EE James. Amber Harness and Hawthornes come in EE width I believe-I'll check. Black and Copper rough and tough don't. They're narrow. I have a borderline wide foot and I can wear them but break in was a painfull bastard-something I'm sure you're familiar with.

Merde, merde, merde. You're undoubtedly right. And I am having a real challenge getting a pair of black Iron Rangers in 9.5E anywhere in Canada. It seems that none of the retailers that I normally use here in Canada for my boots fix can be bothered to get black Iron Rangers in size 9.5E / EE. And of course I get hammered bringing them across the border (socialist welfare state that Canada is) with taxes and such.

Oh well, it is what it is. Guess I will bite the bullet and buy south of the border and take the pain.

James

Post by **matt.wu** » Tue Dec 11, 2012 8:17 am

James, when you sell your Dweller to buy more boots - dibs.

jad3703 · Post by **jad3703** » Tue Dec 11, 2012 8:22 am

matt.wu wrote:James, when you sell your Dweller to buy more boots - dibs.

LOL, thanks, Matt. I really like how people here at DWC step up to help each other out when it comes to the tough decisions regarding watches vs. boots.

James

moishlashen · Post by **moishlashen** » Tue Dec 11, 2012 8:27 am

Black and Copper Rough Tough only come in D widths. Hawthorne and Amber Harness are available iin EE Widths.

Slipkid · Post by **Slipkid** » Tue Dec 11, 2012 9:26 am

The IRs are definitely narrower, James. I have both Beckmans and IRs in the same 10D size. That said, I think they will finish breaking in and will work as long as I don't go with thick socks. Best of luck with however you get yours.

jad3703 · Post by **jad3703** » Tue Dec 11, 2012 12:26 pm

Well, just did it; ordered the IRs in black, size 9.5EE. And got a really good deal, so all is good in the world.

Pics and review once I get it (same for the Chipps, expected tomorrow).

Thanks for all of the advice, gents. Looking forward to getting both pair ... and the Aldens.

James

moishlashen · Post by **moishlashen** » Tue Dec 11, 2012 12:29 pm

Cool. I wasn't trying to give you bad info-I actually called my local RW store (Herb) and he said the Iron Ranger is not made in EE widths in black

jad3703 · Post by **jad3703** » Tue Dec 11, 2012 12:43 pm

moishlashen wrote:Cool. I wasn't trying to give you bad info-I actually called my local RW store (Herb) and he said the Iron Ranger is not made in EE widths in black

Yep, I know. Just got the same call from my guy in Alberta. So, looks like I go with the IRs in Amber, 9.5EE.

It means the Chipps in dark chocolate brown and the IRs in amber. That's a good enough difference for me.

All good and thanks for the help, moish. It is what it is.

James

jad3703 · Post by **jad3703** » Tue Dec 11, 2012 5:19 pm

And here are the pair that I ordered (glam shot). Shipping out tomorrow, so I should see them within the next few days (probably early next week).

Very cool. Will post pics once I get these and the Chipps.

James

Post by **CGSshorty** » Tue Dec 11, 2012 5:40 pm

Those are awesome James.

Post by **matt.wu** » Tue Dec 11, 2012 5:55 pm

Nice, James. I very happy with my IRs.

jad3703 · Post by **jad3703** » Tue Dec 11, 2012 6:52 pm

Thanks, Gents. I have been literally thinking about this purchase for years but never seemed to get around to it, always finding excuses. Happy to say that I have no more excuses, although I still find it a bit surreal to have spent almost $300 on a pair of boots (let alone two other pair, although the Chipps are a bit cheaper and the Aldens are ... well, the Aldens).

James

aikiman44 · Post by **aikiman44** » Tue Dec 11, 2012 8:01 pm

Great looking boots.
Keep in mind that a hundred dollar strap is only a tiny bit of leather.

lilhoody · Post by **lilhoody** » Wed Dec 12, 2012 12:21 am

only 1/2 size down? I think RW runs small; my running shoes are generally 13, Danners 12, RW 11.

jad3703 · Post by **jad3703** » Wed Dec 12, 2012 2:45 am

aikiman44 wrote:Great looking boots.
Keep in mind that a hundred dollar strap is only a tiny bit of leather.

Exactly, Jay. Such are the incongruities of collecting. The Frau does not get it. Sometimes I have to agree with her.

James

jad3703 · Post by **jad3703** » Wed Dec 12, 2012 2:51 am

lilhoody wrote:only 1/2 size down? I think RW runs small; my running shoes are generally 13, Danners 12, RW 11.

Well, I'll let you know. I am kind of in no-man's land between 9.5 and 10. But the pair of RW size 9 moc toes were just a tiny bit too small, so I figure a size 9.5 should do the trick. I'll let you all know.

James

justsellbrgs · Post by **justsellbrgs** » Wed Dec 12, 2012 5:12 am

James.... I'm wearin' 1000 miles today and they fit me better than the Beckman's....... width and toe box has more room for me...

jad3703 · Post by **jad3703** » Wed Dec 12, 2012 6:06 am

justsellbrgs wrote:James.... I'm wearin' 1000 miles today and they fit me better than the Beckman's....... width and toe box has more room for me...

Funnily enough, I am going to go and try on 1000 milers today at lunch. I really want a pair of black as well as a pair of brown boots, so I have decided that I will be sending one of either the Chipps or the IRs back (depending on fit) and getting a pair of black 1000 milers (assuming the fit works).

James

justsellbrgs · Post by **justsellbrgs** » Wed Dec 12, 2012 6:32 am

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