New Seiko Thread

[toxicavenger]

Nice pic posted by yonsson on the Seko forum on WUS.

He also posted pics of the other two, but this version is my favorite.






Now that I look at it again, the black is sharp, too.

I never consider GMTs because a) I never leave my own timezone, and b) I usually find the GMT hand an ugly distraction, but these are really nice looking.

Yup…. This is the perfect dive watch with GMT functionality layout in my opinion.

Once these get to the $1,500-ish price point, I will grab one. Maybe sooner I’d my travel kicks back in.

the black one sells for 1500.

[toxicavenger]

I just hope the 6r movement gets a revamp, it seems to be a gamble every time I buy a watch with it.

I've owned a few of the new ones. Been much more consistent than the r15 in my experience, but it's still a gamble on plus or minus.

Btw, i'm digging these new GMT releases... green is where it's at.

i am now at 3 out of 5 6r35's having to go back to seiko for repairs.

[Selym]

i am now at 3 out of 5 6r35's having to go back to seiko for repairs.

How long do they take to complete the repairs? They've had mine for over a week, and the status is still "Your watch/clock is in our repair shop and will be assigned to a technician soon."

[Joeprez]

This is extremely nice, might compete with my Willard for the “green watch” spot.




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[Ryeguy]

I just hope the 6r movement gets a revamp, it seems to be a gamble every time I buy a watch with it.

I've owned a few of the new ones. Been much more consistent than the r15 in my experience, but it's still a gamble on plus or minus.

Btw, i'm digging these new GMT releases... green is where it's at.

i am now at 3 out of 5 6r35's having to go back to seiko for repairs.

Man, that stinks. I don’t know if I’m just lucky, but the 6r35 in my SPB whatever 65 reissue has been a very solid performer.

I do tend to wear it consistently though, so it never drops too much in power reserve (where I normally would expect to see a loss in accuracy).

I’m kinda wondering if some of these 6r35 issues are due to over oiling during manufacture. I had a Soprod A10 that had horrible performance due to this.

As an aside, aren’t these new MM200 GMT’s using the same movement as the SKX style GMT’s? I haven’t heard of any issues with those watches.

[r.palace]

I’m kinda wondering if some of these 6r35 issues are due to over oiling during manufacture. I had a Soprod A10 that had horrible performance due to this.

When Jack was servicing my 6R15 Sumo some years back he indicated that there wasn’t enough oil from factory and they’re basically built to fail from the start.

He oiled the movement, serviced it, and it was still a shitter.

[Wario406]

i am now at 3 out of 5 6r35's having to go back to seiko for repairs.

How long do they take to complete the repairs? They've had mine for over a week, and the status is still "Your watch/clock is in our repair shop and will be assigned to a technician soon."

Mine got assigned to a tech within a week of receipt. Where did you send it?

[mattcantwin]

Topper has all three available for pre-order.

[Ryeguy]

I’m kinda wondering if some of these 6r35 issues are due to over oiling during manufacture. I had a Soprod A10 that had horrible performance due to this.

When Jack was servicing my 6R15 Sumo some years back he indicated that there wasn’t enough oil from factory and they’re basically built to fail from the start.

He oiled the movement, serviced it, and it was still a shitter.

From what I’ve heard, an under oiled movement will work, but fail early. This is the case of many low cost Chinese movements. An over oiled movement will exhibit issues almost immediately. My Soprod A10 never ran correctly (would stop overnight despite being fully wound).

My guess is most movements are OK, but some tolerance stack in the right direction and are better than OK, and other’s tolerance stack in the wrong direction and are just crap performers.

Seiko needs to do a better job of weeding out those crap examples before they hit the street.

[Chocodove]

I’ve had great 6r’s and complete crap ones out of the 15 or so I’ve owned. Luck of the draw. It’s enough to keep me away from that movement now, which is unfortunate because Seiko would absolutely destroy that price segment with a quality movement (and putting a bezel on properly).

[Chocodove]

i am now at 3 out of 5 6r35's having to go back to seiko for repairs.

How long do they take to complete the repairs? They've had mine for over a week, and the status is still "Your watch/clock is in our repair shop and will be assigned to a technician soon."

My only experience with Seiko USA Service Center was when I sent in a 6R that died the first week of March 2020. Then we all know what happened in the world. They had it back to me two months later. Good experience all things considered.

[Selym]

i am now at 3 out of 5 6r35's having to go back to seiko for repairs.

How long do they take to complete the repairs? They've had mine for over a week, and the status is still "Your watch/clock is in our repair shop and will be assigned to a technician soon."

Mine got assigned to a tech within a week of receipt. Where did you send it?

I sent it to their service center in New Jersey.

[Wario406]

i am now at 3 out of 5 6r35's having to go back to seiko for repairs.

How long do they take to complete the repairs? They've had mine for over a week, and the status is still "Your watch/clock is in our repair shop and will be assigned to a technician soon."

Mine got assigned to a tech within a week of receipt. Where did you send it?

I sent it to their service center in New Jersey.

That’s where mine is.


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[toxicavenger]

i am now at 3 out of 5 6r35's having to go back to seiko for repairs.

How long do they take to complete the repairs? They've had mine for over a week, and the status is still "Your watch/clock is in our repair shop and will be assigned to a technician soon."

3 weeks at the most. the status was never updated. but they watches were perfect when they came back.

[toxicavenger]

I’m kinda wondering if some of these 6r35 issues are due to over oiling during manufacture. I had a Soprod A10 that had horrible performance due to this.

When Jack was servicing my 6R15 Sumo some years back he indicated that there wasn’t enough oil from factory and they’re basically built to fail from the start.

He oiled the movement, serviced it, and it was still a shitter.

From what I’ve heard, an under oiled movement will work, but fail early. This is the case of many low cost Chinese movements. An over oiled movement will exhibit issues almost immediately. My Soprod A10 never ran correctly (would stop overnight despite being fully wound).

My guess is most movements are OK, but some tolerance stack in the right direction and are better than OK, and other’s tolerance stack in the wrong direction and are just crap performers.

Seiko needs to do a better job of weeding out those crap examples before they hit the street.

I know a while back Spencer Klein had some video's saying he knew what the issue was with the 6r's but he came back and recanted his statement. What is crazy is the 6r replacements the NE15's are perfect right out of the box.

Me personally i think there are multiple issues with the 6r's, and unless you have a bunch of spare parts there is no one fix.

I also had the Soprod issues. But once Todd had them fixed they ran as good as my Planet Ocean.

[Wario406]

i am now at 3 out of 5 6r35's having to go back to seiko for repairs.

How long do they take to complete the repairs? They've had mine for over a week, and the status is still "Your watch/clock is in our repair shop and will be assigned to a technician soon."

3 weeks at the most. the status was never updated. but they watches were perfect when they came back.

I hope mine is.


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[Ryeguy]

I’m kinda wondering if some of these 6r35 issues are due to over oiling during manufacture. I had a Soprod A10 that had horrible performance due to this.

When Jack was servicing my 6R15 Sumo some years back he indicated that there wasn’t enough oil from factory and they’re basically built to fail from the start.

He oiled the movement, serviced it, and it was still a shitter.

From what I’ve heard, an under oiled movement will work, but fail early. This is the case of many low cost Chinese movements. An over oiled movement will exhibit issues almost immediately. My Soprod A10 never ran correctly (would stop overnight despite being fully wound).

My guess is most movements are OK, but some tolerance stack in the right direction and are better than OK, and other’s tolerance stack in the wrong direction and are just crap performers.

Seiko needs to do a better job of weeding out those crap examples before they hit the street.

I know a while back Spencer Klein had some video's saying he knew what the issue was with the 6r's but he came back and recanted his statement. What is crazy is the 6r replacements the NE15's are perfect right out of the box.

Me personally i think there are multiple issues with the 6r's, and unless you have a bunch of spare parts there is no one fix.

I also had the Soprod issues. But once Todd had them fixed they ran as good as my Planet Ocean.

My Soprod issue was with my OWC. Dan (Daz actually) stripped it, cleaned it, then oiled it properly. It ran perfectly after that.

Unfortunately for me, it took two trips from NH to Australia to figure out what was wrong.

As for the 6r issues, I’ve still got to think it is a tolerance stacking issue.

I mean mechanical watch movements are nothing new and Seiko has been designing and making them for ages. I don’t think they would make a fundamental design flaw.

Given the mixed bag of reports (some run great, some are a shit show) and that a talented watch maker was not able to pinpoint any specific design defect, my guess is Seiko allowed designers / quality engineers to include a wee bit more acceptable tolerance in various key components (probably as a cost savings measure).

If you happen to get a movement assembled using a significant number of “barely in tolerance” components, it’ll be a shit show. If you happen to get one built tight, you’ll get better than advertised performance.

I have no idea why the NH’s seem to run better than the 6r’s as they are the same design. My only guess is the NH’s might be manufactured in different factories who have retained the old acceptable tolerance standards.

[mattcantwin]

I just placed an order for the black GMT at Topper's.

[Ryeguy]

I just placed an order for the black GMT at Topper's.

Nice!

I'm building the ol' war chest to place the order.

[mattcantwin]

I just placed an order for the black GMT at Topper's.

Nice!

I'm building the ol' war chest to place the order.

They charged less than the $1500.

[Ryeguy]

I just placed an order for the black GMT at Topper's.

Nice!

I'm building the ol' war chest to place the order.

They charged less than the $1500.

I'll PM you, but I have one (hopefully) minor boat repair to take care of first. Once I have confirmed the budget requirement for that expense, I'll pull the trigger on the new Seiko.

[AtomicTom]

Anyone have time to see the Seiko 5 Sports 55th Anniversary Masked
Rider L.E.?

The watch pays tribute to the classic Japanese show Kamen Rider with
details like 42.5mm stainless steel case, rotating bezel with sleek steel
insert, cool textured dark green dial, nice black leather strap, the Calibre
4R36 and more.

Just a few pictures...

















Monochrome and Seiko with a lot more too...

https://monochrome-watches.com/introduc ... ecs-price/

https://www.seikowatches.com/global-en/ ... ider/index

[Henryj]

Nice pic posted by yonsson on the Seko forum on WUS.

He also posted pics of the other two, but this version is my favorite.






Now that I look at it again, the black is sharp, too.

I never consider GMTs because a) I never leave my own timezone, and b) I usually find the GMT hand an ugly distraction, but these are really nice looking.

Yup…. This is the perfect dive watch with GMT functionality layout in my opinion.

Once these get to the $1,500-ish price point, I will grab one. Maybe sooner I’d my travel kicks back in.

the black one sells for 1500.

That’s not a bad price, all things considered. What hurts it for me is that it’s a “caller” GMT, with quick set 24 hour hand. The solar Sumo GMT would work better for me.

[AtomicTom]

Not sure if everyone saw the new Seiko 5 Sports SKX 38MM Collection.

These watches have 38mm cases, unidirectional rotating bezel with
metallic inserts, black, cream, mint green, and orange dials, stainless
steel bracelets, and the Calibre 4R36 is right beneath powering things.

Some pics for you...






















https://monochrome-watches.com/introduc ... ecs-price/


https://www.seikowatches.com/

[AtomicTom]

Guys, did you catch these Seiko 5 Sports x Peanuts watches?

First, the Surfboard Snoopy has the midsized SKX 38mm case,
diver’s bezel and black aluminum insert, the cool white dial with
Snoopy and his surfboard, plus neat nato and calibre 4R36 too.











Then the Parachute Snoopy will have a 36.4mm midsized Field Watch
case, white dial with Snoopy having fun with his parachute, calibre 4R36,
and leather strap.











https://monochrome-watches.com/introduc ... -gallery-8