Synchron 70’s Military Homage

[BBK357]

How is everyone liking these?

Anyone want to sell one?

I love the black case.


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Definitely enjoying it.

Man I love that.
Let me know if/when when you want to sell it!


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[Ryeguy]

How is everyone liking these?

Anyone want to sell one?

I love the black case.


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Mine has been a daily wearer pretty much since receipt. I have the stainless case and have been wearing it on an orange ISO.

The size is fine, even on my relatively skinny wrists. Accuracy is fine (not one of those +/- seconds per day guys, but I haven't had to reset it over a month of wear). Bezel action is good, proper alignment, zero slop. Crown engagement is good with plenty of threads.

From my perspective, this is the way a micro ought to work - good movement, good quality construction, sub $1K price tag.

If you are looking for a black model, just be aware the last few that were released are running a Sellita movement, not the ETA. Rick / Syncron made the announcement that he could not get any more ETA movements so he had to switch.

[BBK357]

How is everyone liking these?

Anyone want to sell one?

I love the black case.


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Mine has been a daily wearer pretty much since receipt. I have the stainless case and have been wearing it on an orange ISO.

The size is fine, even on my relatively skinny wrists. Accuracy is fine (not one of those +/- seconds per day guys, but I haven't had to reset it over a month of wear). Bezel action is good, proper alignment, zero slop. Crown engagement is good with plenty of threads.

From my perspective, this is the way a micro ought to work - good movement, good quality construction, sub $1K price tag.

If you are looking for a black model, just be aware the last few that were released are running a Sellita movement, not the ETA. Rick / Syncron made the announcement that he could not get any more ETA movements so he had to switch.

Ah man. Good to know about the non eta. I’ll be keeping my eyes out for a black eta.

I’ve always wanted a vintage-y black cased military type watch. I love the old chronosport UDT and the black Heuer that had the Lemania 5100 in it but those are stupidly expensive now. But yes I think this thing would be awesome on black nato or one piece Velcro.

I was watching delta force the other night and it reignited my interest:



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[Axelay2003]

How is everyone liking these?

Anyone want to sell one?

I love the black case.


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Mine has been a daily wearer pretty much since receipt. I have the stainless case and have been wearing it on an orange ISO.

The size is fine, even on my relatively skinny wrists. Accuracy is fine (not one of those +/- seconds per day guys, but I haven't had to reset it over a month of wear). Bezel action is good, proper alignment, zero slop. Crown engagement is good with plenty of threads.

From my perspective, this is the way a micro ought to work - good movement, good quality construction, sub $1K price tag.

If you are looking for a black model, just be aware the last few that were released are running a Sellita movement, not the ETA. Rick / Syncron made the announcement that he could not get any more ETA movements so he had to switch.

Do you have the date when the switch to Sellita occurred?

[Ryeguy]

How is everyone liking these?

Anyone want to sell one?

I love the black case.


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Mine has been a daily wearer pretty much since receipt. I have the stainless case and have been wearing it on an orange ISO.

The size is fine, even on my relatively skinny wrists. Accuracy is fine (not one of those +/- seconds per day guys, but I haven't had to reset it over a month of wear). Bezel action is good, proper alignment, zero slop. Crown engagement is good with plenty of threads.

From my perspective, this is the way a micro ought to work - good movement, good quality construction, sub $1K price tag.

If you are looking for a black model, just be aware the last few that were released are running a Sellita movement, not the ETA. Rick / Syncron made the announcement that he could not get any more ETA movements so he had to switch.

Do you have the date when the switch to Sellita occurred?

The switch to Sellita was only for the last 50 PVD / black Military models. According to Synchron's posting on WUS, the serial numbers were not sequential, so you'd have to go by previous owner order date or ask Synchron based upon the serial number of the watch you are looking at purchasing.

Here is a copy of what Synchron posted on WUS:

Fortunately, there is nothing to hide here, but unfortunately there is no possibility to change this situation, The uncertainty whether Synchron will receive the 2824-2 has been present now since April, negotiations and correspondences with the supplier were taking place during this period, and the final note came yesterday that the supply of ETA 2824 was cut without notice and the last 50 Synchron Military pieces are receiving an SW200. As assembly of the last PVD pieces is currently taking place and serial numbers are being currently compiled, it wont be until the watches are completely assembled to know which 50 serial numbers of the 500 pieces total edition will receive an SW200. So we recommend that anyone who doesn't want the SW200 movement for whatever reason, which (in our Opinion after 20 years of improvement) has now become the better variation of the ETA2824-2, please email Synchron to cancel the order for full refund. Unfortunately, Synchron has tried every route to get access to those movements without success, and was informed, that there will never be an ETA 2824-2 in a non-Swatch group watch again, thus the use of the SW200.. And as this has now become a problem not only for Synchron but to the entire industry, there will be no way to obtain ETA 2824 anymore.

We at Synchron apologize for this disappointment, and are offering a full refund to anyone who doesn't want an SW200 powered Synchron Military..

Further we like to inform that;

any correspondence about this topic should be directed to Synchron by email, phone or livechat. The CS team will not be able to handle any inquiries about the movement on this thread
all delivered pieces until today are powered by the ETA 2824-2, all stainless steel pieces are also powered by the ETA 2824-2.
the entire edition of 500 pieces of the Synchron Military is completely sold out.
email was sent out with the above information to the last batch of the Military PVD pre-orders that are affected by the above note

[dukerules]

I have a substandard Selitta-powered PVD. Absolutely love it. I’ve never paid so little for a watch I’ve enjoyed this much.

[BBK357]

I have a substandard Selitta-powered PVD. Absolutely love it. I’ve never paid so little for a watch I’ve enjoyed this much.

If I had the choice I’d go ETA, but I would not turn one down that was sellita.

Did they let you know yours was sellita? I thought you got yours pretty early on.


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[dukerules]

I ordered it about a week after it was announced and it took almost four months to show up. They let me know a couple of weeks before I got it that it would have an SW200. While everyone wants an ETA, I’m not sure the SW200 isn’t an objectively better movement, or at least just as good. But I’m not really a movement snob.

[BBK357]

I ordered it about a week after it was announced and it took almost four months to show up. They let me know a couple of weeks before I got it that it would have an SW200. While everyone wants an ETA, I’m not sure the SW200 isn’t an objectively better movement, or at least just as good. But I’m not really a movement snob.

Cool. As long as it runs well it doesn’t matter. I always think of eta service being easier.


One thing is odd to me though- I’ve been trying to go to synchron USA website all day today and it’s not loading.


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[Steve O.]

Enjoying mine as well...

[Ryeguy]

I ordered it about a week after it was announced and it took almost four months to show up. They let me know a couple of weeks before I got it that it would have an SW200. While everyone wants an ETA, I’m not sure the SW200 isn’t an objectively better movement, or at least just as good. But I’m not really a movement snob.

Cool. As long as it runs well it doesn’t matter. I always think of eta service being easier.


One thing is odd to me though- I’ve been trying to go to synchron USA website all day today and it’s not loading.


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Yeah, the movement doesn't really bother me either.

ETA service *might* be easier now, but if Swatch goes the path of Rolex and cuts the supply of spare parts to only Swatch service centers, the days of easy 2824-2 service might be over.

I'm guessing even if they do pull that same stunt the impact won't be felt for years due to the existing stock in the hands of independent watch repair shops, but I could certainly see it happening in the future.

[toxicavenger]

I ordered it about a week after it was announced and it took almost four months to show up. They let me know a couple of weeks before I got it that it would have an SW200. While everyone wants an ETA, I’m not sure the SW200 isn’t an objectively better movement, or at least just as good. But I’m not really a movement snob.

Cool. As long as it runs well it doesn’t matter. I always think of eta service being easier.


One thing is odd to me though- I’ve been trying to go to synchron USA website all day today and it’s not loading.


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Yeah, the movement doesn't really bother me either.

ETA service *might* be easier now, but if Swatch goes the path of Rolex and cuts the supply of spare parts to only Swatch service centers, the days of easy 2824-2 service might be over.

I'm guessing even if they do pull that same stunt the impact won't be felt for years due to the existing stock in the hands of independent watch repair shops, but I could certainly see it happening in the future.

ETA 2824-2 has been around 40 years. there is a plethora of part available, even aftermarket. that is not true of the sw200. parts are just now starting to come available. and they are not interchangeable with the 2824. we haven't service many sw200's lately but at one time we had 5 of them on the bench for keyless works issues. and no parts were available. they all got 2824's installed. some of those customers are here on this forum. the STP movements are way more problematic.

[BacoNoir]

I ordered it about a week after it was announced and it took almost four months to show up. They let me know a couple of weeks before I got it that it would have an SW200. While everyone wants an ETA, I’m not sure the SW200 isn’t an objectively better movement, or at least just as good. But I’m not really a movement snob.

Cool. As long as it runs well it doesn’t matter. I always think of eta service being easier.


One thing is odd to me though- I’ve been trying to go to synchron USA website all day today and it’s not loading.


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Yeah, the movement doesn't really bother me either.

ETA service *might* be easier now, but if Swatch goes the path of Rolex and cuts the supply of spare parts to only Swatch service centers, the days of easy 2824-2 service might be over.

I'm guessing even if they do pull that same stunt the impact won't be felt for years due to the existing stock in the hands of independent watch repair shops, but I could certainly see it happening in the future.

ETA 2824-2 has been around 40 years. there is a plethora of part available, even aftermarket. that is not true of the sw200. parts are just now starting to come available. and they are not interchangeable with the 2824. we haven't service many sw200's lately but at one time we had 5 of them on the bench for keyless works issues. and no parts were available. they all got 2824's installed. some of those customers are here on this forum. the STP movements are way more problematic.

Yep, I’m one of those. It was easier and cheaper to swap movements (SW to ETA) than continue to try to troubleshoot.

[Ryeguy]

I ordered it about a week after it was announced and it took almost four months to show up. They let me know a couple of weeks before I got it that it would have an SW200. While everyone wants an ETA, I’m not sure the SW200 isn’t an objectively better movement, or at least just as good. But I’m not really a movement snob.

Cool. As long as it runs well it doesn’t matter. I always think of eta service being easier.


One thing is odd to me though- I’ve been trying to go to synchron USA website all day today and it’s not loading.


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Yeah, the movement doesn't really bother me either.

ETA service *might* be easier now, but if Swatch goes the path of Rolex and cuts the supply of spare parts to only Swatch service centers, the days of easy 2824-2 service might be over.

I'm guessing even if they do pull that same stunt the impact won't be felt for years due to the existing stock in the hands of independent watch repair shops, but I could certainly see it happening in the future.

ETA 2824-2 has been around 40 years. there is a plethora of part available, even aftermarket. that is not true of the sw200. parts are just now starting to come available. and they are not interchangeable with the 2824. we haven't service many sw200's lately but at one time we had 5 of them on the bench for keyless works issues. and no parts were available. they all got 2824's installed. some of those customers are here on this forum. the STP movements are way more problematic.

Yes, no argument regarding the commonality of the 2824-2 and current parts availability.

My thought is simply that given Swatch is in the process of limiting movement supply to only Swatch brands, the next logical step IMO is to limit service parts to only Swatch service centers.

If I’m Swatch, I’d be trying to think of how I could continue pulling revenue from my existing customers after the initial watch sale. Forcing you to use my service centers is one way to do this.

FWIW, the most problematic movement I ever owned was a Soprod A-10. That movement, despite being “Swiss made” had more issues than anything I’ve owned from ETA, Seiko, Sellita, or even cheap Chinese copy movements. It was significantly over oiled from the factory and ultimately had to be stripped, cleaned, reassembled and properly oiled before working well.

[aikiman44]

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I had a stainless, but switched it for a PVD.

[toxicavenger]

If I’m Swatch, I’d be trying to think of how I could continue pulling revenue from my existing customers after the initial watch sale. Forcing you to use my service centers is one way to do this.

FWIW, the most problematic movement I ever owned was a Soprod A-10. That movement, despite being “Swiss made” had more issues than anything I’ve owned from ETA, Seiko, Sellita, or even cheap Chinese copy movements. It was significantly over oiled from the factory and ultimately had to be stripped, cleaned, reassembled and properly oiled before working well.

they have been talking about limiting the use of the 2824 for about 10-15 years now. but I can still get them from the suppliers. i think swatch is trying to make people cough up more money to get them. i am not sure.

i also had issues with the soprod. which was frustrating because it is a beautiful movement.

the SW-200's are cheaper for a reason. some good reading on them https://calibercorner.com/sellita-calib ... s-sw200-1/ . they still try to market it as a even replacement as a 2824 but that is not the case. the Sw200-1 is the movement that is more improved production wise. the sw300's are really good straight out of the box.

i don't recommend any watch with a STP. maybe soon they will fix their issues and bring that back up to playing field.

[BBK357]

Well that was some good info.


Regardless- whatever movement, if anyone thinks of selling let me know when you do.


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[aikiman44]

That is a cool site. Thanks.

[toxicavenger]

That is a cool site. Thanks.

enjoy the killer watch Jay!

[BBK357]

Looks like I’m a few months too late. I did a watchrecon search and a ton of these were sold over the summer months. Most from $1200-$1400 but a guy on WUS sold a black one with a black BOR bracelet for $1075!
Patience I guess….


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[aikiman44]

That is a cool site. Thanks.

enjoy the killer watch Jay!

Thank you my friend!