Ginault - questions answered

[hoppyjr]

I sent an email with some questions and got a nice reply. See below:

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Thank you for your email and interest in the Ocean Rover.

We understand some customers would love to see less text on the Ocean Rover dial. We have also drafted up a few concepts in the past but if you want to maintain that golden ratio with the maxi indices at full dial real estate a four-line text is the only way it looks right. The reason why it looks fine on the 185066 (print dial) is that we "shrank" the dial's real estate visually with the gilt outline. If you study the dials of all the other Sub homages none can do the exact same ratio on the dial as Rolex without the 4 line text.

Our Cal 7275 is a clone of the ETA 2824 but not a Chinese clone. We manufactured most parts domestically. Some parts due to the lack of machinery we had to purchase from Switerzeland and China. Since you asked I will provide you with a breakdown.

The Watch: the parts that compose the watch are all manufactured domestically with our partnered machine shops. These parts include the mid-case, cashback, bezel assemblies, crown, and bezel insert. The dial is made by our master dial maker whom was trained in Switzerland and made dials for the Swiss watch giants in the past. The bracelet is sourced from a bracelet supplier in the Far East.

The Movement: the parts for the movement were mainly made here; however, there are still some parts which the shops here lack the proper tools/machines. Hence at the moment, we do not possess the ability to engineer these parts domestically even though the blueprints on these parts are readily available. These parts are the hairspring, the mainspring, the red synthetic sapphire crystals also known as jewels, and the shock absorber.

I hope this helps.

[toxicavenger]

Sounds like they are saying they manufacture almost all the same amount of movement parts Weiss does. I find that hard to believe.

[drwindsurf]

I sent an email with some questions and got a nice reply. .

Thank you for sharing


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[dnslater]

Ginault would be a good candidate to go after MKII's market. They use the same flowery marketing bullshit and genuinely seem to put a lot of care into their watches. The info above at least shows they have "some" transparency.

I would love to see a watchmaker tear down a Ginault movement and do a comparision with an ETA. Interestingly my company won't let me access the Ginault's website because it cannot "provide a secure connection". Maybe the website sources parts from China also.

[Ryeguy]

Odd on the website thing. I can get to it through my company's VPN and their security settings are pretty aggressive.

As most of you guys know, I bought a Ginault early on and I like it for what it is. The watch was well made and the details were done well. I've purchased much more expensive watches which turned up with little quality issues (ask SafetyStop Dave about my SLA017) and can find none on my Ginault.

I like how Ginault didn't burst onto the market asking $2K for their watch like some recent micros we've seen. They offered deep discounts (paid $518 shipped for mine) and seem to be attempting to earn their way up to their MSRP through reviews and reputation.

I like how Ginault sent me a loaner watch when I broke mine after a year of ownership. No questions asked and completely on their dime. It was their idea - I never asked for the loaner.

I suspect they are playing the WUS crowd and maybe intentionally stirring up controversy in order to keep their thread at the top of the list. If so, while it might be an unsavory technique, but it is effective marketing.

I view the Ocean Rover as a better quality sword hand Mil Sub homage than what I've seen currently available on the market. The Ginault's bezel action and finish exceeds the Helson SM300 homage I just purchased (for more money).

I wish the Ocean Rover had drilled lugs. I wish it had a fully indexed bezel. I wish it had less text below the handset. I wish the clasp wasn't a copy of the Rolex Glidelock (although it works very well). Other than those preferences, it is a good option for those inclined to the MilSub style.

[Jeep99dad]

I love mine

[Iceman767]

I love mine too. Awesome watch for what you get

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[Torrid]

I wish I could get beyond the weird text. If they are really as American made as they let on to be, it’s right up my alley.

[hoppyjr]

I asked if they were planning the original “maxi dial” model with less text, as is on the new “vintage” inspired dial. The answer was no, they believe the maxi dial needs the text to make it balanced. I disagree.
They did say that they are considering different things for the future.

It’s too bad because the regular lume maxi dial with sword hands would be perfect without all the silly wording.

[tattoo chef]

I asked if they were planning the original “maxi dial” model with less text, as is on the new “vintage” inspired dial. The answer was no, they believe the maxi dial needs the text to make it balanced. I disagree.
They did say that they are considering different things for the future.

It’s too bad because the regular lume maxi dial with sword hands would be perfect without all the silly wording.

I agree. If they keep the 4 lines, they could at least change the text.


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