Which Omega

[matt.wu]

No worries, Dave. I recognized the tongue-in-cheek. But still, I'm not gonna sit around and let all these arguments be one-sided. I've got to balance out the flavors of Kool-aid at the table here.

The Milgauss claims of magnetic resistance and the lack of date on the Speedy are two completely different arguments - and only one is similar to Seiko's Hardlex argument. In one case, you have a feature of a watch that, while it is marketed as something a lot more special than is practical, is a true feature that adds value to the watch, regardless of whether or not you use it. With the lack of date on the Speedy and the argument that you can use the seconds-hand to indicate the date, a short-coming is being justified in a silly stretch. THAT is similar to the claims that Seiko fanboys make about Hardlex.

And as to physics, my education in that arena doesn't extend beyond basic kinematics and electromagnetism, so I will defer to you. However, if pin and collar truly is superior, why did Omega switch to screwed links?

But seriously, I'm recognize the tongue-in-cheek. I just don't like to let someone walk all over me

[BSears]

I'm sorry, but Hardlex IS vastly superior to sapphire. So please, let's refrain from making any adverse comments about Hardlex, ok?

[toxicavenger]

You guys don't know shit! The "MONSTER" rocks!

[dshap]

However, if pin and collar truly is superior, why did Omega switch to screwed links? )

When you're selling watches, it doesn't matter what is better in reality, it matters what appears to be better to the buyer. That's my guess at least .

[Safetystop]

No worries, Dave. I recognized the tongue-in-cheek. But still, I'm not gonna sit around and let all these arguments be one-sided. I've got to balance out the flavors of Kool-aid at the table here.

The Milgauss claims of magnetic resistance and the lack of date on the Speedy are two completely different arguments - and only one is similar to Seiko's Hardlex argument. In one case, you have a feature of a watch that, while it is marketed as something a lot more special than is practical, is a true feature that adds value to the watch, regardless of whether or not you use it. With the lack of date on the Speedy and the argument that you can use the seconds-hand to indicate the date, a short-coming is being justified in a silly stretch. THAT is similar to the claims that Seiko fanboys make about Hardlex.

And as to physics, my education in that arena doesn't extend beyond basic kinematics and electromagnetism, so I will defer to you. However, if pin and collar truly is superior, why did Omega switch to screwed links?

But seriously, I'm recognize the tongue-in-cheek. I just don't like to let someone walk all over me

Walk all over you? I'd make a short joke but that's too easy.

I never maintained that lack of date was a feature or a "tick in the pro column". I merely suggested a work around. Something I am more than willing to make for a Speedy. Why? Again, a better looking watch has yet to be made in my book. So your Hardlex analogy is invalid because I never made the assertion that it was a feature.

I never said pins were superior. I just showed the data that contradicts your fear. I merely pointed out that unwarranted fears that have no basis in reality should be put to rest instead of needlessly perpetuated. Kind of like the fear, "I can't swim with my Speedmaster". You have to take into account context. How much actual wear and tear occurs on watch bracelets? Not much as compared to say a control arm.

Why is Omega switching? I have no idea. But the saying, "Give the people what they want not what they need" comes to mind. Also a calculated risk in a mass production environment. What's the risk of switching to screws? Low...What's the public opinion and perception of having screws versus pins?..Very good. It's a win win for them. But again, public opinion and perception don't always jive with reality.

And bringing this back to the topic of the OP: what's the more desirable model of Omega? To me...Speedmaster, bar none.

[mrsnak]

I think there may be a perception that screws make the bracelet look more finished.
A few of the older Omega bracelets used screws.

[Pastor]

Good Lord, an echo!

[moishlashen]

I like em all

Settled on the Bond co ax GMT personally-I much prefer the skeleton hands over others. Considered PO and Speedy of course but in the end Omega blue was for me so between the Bond GMT and Bond Chrono I picked the one that popped up used 1st.

[BSears]

uh um, for everyone that made recommendations,



I couldn't resist.

[Pasquale]

PO

[mrsnak]

On another note - has anybody ever had a vintage Omega fail at the link pin connection on the bracelet? You raise a curious note Matt. I couldn't imagine that ever happening but in the realm of statistical probabilities, I suppose it has or could.

I did- once - on my Flightmaster - but only because it originally came with the wrong bracelet - the end links were not wide enough and this put a lot of stress on the pins. I put a mesh on it a week later.

For all my other vintage Omegas, never a problem.

if you have a heavier watch, It helps to only buy quality pins.