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Re: New Seiko Thread

Post by dukerules » Sat Jun 11, 2022 2:41 am

Eyeing that white dial (in competition with an SPB143) as a summer beater.

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Re: New Seiko Thread

Post by dukerules » Sat Jun 11, 2022 6:51 am

White dial pre-order is cheap on Sakura right now. And so is the SPB143.

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Re: New Seiko Thread

Post by dnslater » Sat Jun 11, 2022 7:12 am

JP Chestnut wrote:
Fri Jun 10, 2022 9:26 pm
sierra11b wrote:
Fri Jun 10, 2022 7:26 pm
JP Chestnut wrote:
Wed Jun 08, 2022 1:51 pm
Seppia wrote:
Wed Jun 08, 2022 1:29 pm
JP Chestnut wrote:
Wed Jun 08, 2022 7:26 am
Seppia wrote:
Wed Jun 08, 2022 5:14 am
OMG that’s perfect.
I’ll be in Tokyo end of the month, I really hope these are available then, with the Yen being so low now these will look like a bargain
I like those.
Seiko being Seiko, they always find a way to fuck up, in this case the black one is only available on rubber, which would be ok (I think it fits the style of the watch) but of course it will have the shit metal keeper that flops around (because it has no grip) and always has the strap come out of it.
Can fix with an aftermarket strap but "fixing" a seiko was ok when they were $300, now that decent models start at 1k less so
I just can’t get in to cheap watches. It effectively costs the same to service a $900 seiko with crap factory regulation as it does my Sea Dweller and I enjoy wearing the SD a lot more. I have my tuna as a cheap fun quartz. That’s really all I need.
It costs $1000+ to service a 6r seiko?
What Rolex besides maybe a Daytona or delicate vintage costs a grand to service? None. Seeing how my SD is over 10 years old and has incurred exactly $0 service costs, I think you'd be extremely lucky if the 6r isn't more expensive long term. Of course, nobody on here owns watches like that for more than five minutes.
Seiko lists $260 as their service cost on a 6r. Rolex lists around $800 for their service cost on a typical 3 handed. No way long term costs on a Seiko will be more…not sure where you would come up with this. You can ignore service intervals on the Seiko for just as long as on a Rolex as they are just as robust…. The Rolex will just be more accurate.. while the 6r’s will just chug along in perpetuity with the same level of inaccuracy as when new.

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Re: New Seiko Thread

Post by JP Chestnut » Sat Jun 11, 2022 7:47 am

dnslater wrote:
Sat Jun 11, 2022 7:12 am
JP Chestnut wrote:
Fri Jun 10, 2022 9:26 pm
sierra11b wrote:
Fri Jun 10, 2022 7:26 pm
JP Chestnut wrote:
Wed Jun 08, 2022 1:51 pm
Seppia wrote:
Wed Jun 08, 2022 1:29 pm
JP Chestnut wrote:
Wed Jun 08, 2022 7:26 am
Seppia wrote:
Wed Jun 08, 2022 5:14 am
OMG that’s perfect.
I’ll be in Tokyo end of the month, I really hope these are available then, with the Yen being so low now these will look like a bargain
I like those.
Seiko being Seiko, they always find a way to fuck up, in this case the black one is only available on rubber, which would be ok (I think it fits the style of the watch) but of course it will have the shit metal keeper that flops around (because it has no grip) and always has the strap come out of it.
Can fix with an aftermarket strap but "fixing" a seiko was ok when they were $300, now that decent models start at 1k less so
I just can’t get in to cheap watches. It effectively costs the same to service a $900 seiko with crap factory regulation as it does my Sea Dweller and I enjoy wearing the SD a lot more. I have my tuna as a cheap fun quartz. That’s really all I need.
It costs $1000+ to service a 6r seiko?
What Rolex besides maybe a Daytona or delicate vintage costs a grand to service? None. Seeing how my SD is over 10 years old and has incurred exactly $0 service costs, I think you'd be extremely lucky if the 6r isn't more expensive long term. Of course, nobody on here owns watches like that for more than five minutes.
Seiko lists $260 as their service cost on a 6r. Rolex lists around $800 for their service cost on a typical 3 handed. No way long term costs on a Seiko will be more…not sure where you would come up with this. You can ignore service intervals on the Seiko for just as long as on a Rolex as they are just as robust…. The Rolex will just be more accurate.. while the 6r’s will just chug along in perpetuity with the same level of inaccuracy as when new.
An Indy Rolex place will do it for less than $500. To me, $260 and $500 are effectively equivalent— assuming that the 6r actually is as robust as the Rolex 30xx (which can’t honestly be claimed given that the 6r was introduced decades after the Rolex movement).

Any BOD who has an unserviced 6r from 2006 should speak up. I’d like to hear how it compared to my unserviced GMT2 from 2004.

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Re: New Seiko Thread

Post by Selym » Sat Jun 11, 2022 10:16 am

JP Chestnut wrote:
Sat Jun 11, 2022 7:47 am
Any BOD who has an unserviced 6r from 2006 should speak up. I’d like to hear how it compared to my unserviced GMT2 from 2004.
I bought the Spirit on the right in October '06

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It still runs great, though I have to admit I only wear it a few times per year.

When the time comes, it will not be serviced; I'll just swap the movement. I don't think it makes sense to service a Seiko with anything less than an 8L35 inside.

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Re: New Seiko Thread

Post by JP Chestnut » Sat Jun 11, 2022 10:58 am

Selym wrote:
Sat Jun 11, 2022 10:16 am
JP Chestnut wrote:
Sat Jun 11, 2022 7:47 am
Any BOD who has an unserviced 6r from 2006 should speak up. I’d like to hear how it compared to my unserviced GMT2 from 2004.
I bought the Spirit on the right in October '06

Image

It still runs great, though I have to admit I only wear it a few times per year.

When the time comes, it will not be serviced; I'll just swap the movement. I don't think it makes sense to service a Seiko with anything less than an 8L35 inside.
Thanks bud. I’m glad to hear they go and go.

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Re: New Seiko Thread

Post by Torrid » Sat Jun 11, 2022 11:58 am

Selym wrote:
Sat Jun 11, 2022 10:16 am
JP Chestnut wrote:
Sat Jun 11, 2022 7:47 am
Any BOD who has an unserviced 6r from 2006 should speak up. I’d like to hear how it compared to my unserviced GMT2 from 2004.
I bought the Spirit on the right in October '06

Image

It still runs great, though I have to admit I only wear it a few times per year.

When the time comes, it will not be serviced; I'll just swap the movement. I don't think it makes sense to service a Seiko with anything less than an 8L35 inside.
I've had that same thought. I have a SARB033 which was the slightly updated version of this watch I've had for 6 years now and I don't know if I'd bother trying to service either. I'd think swapping the movement, but swapping the rotor over to the new movement would be the move, since it is a display back.

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Re: New Seiko Thread

Post by dnslater » Sat Jun 11, 2022 11:58 am

JP Chestnut wrote:
Sat Jun 11, 2022 7:47 am
An Indy Rolex place will do it for less than $500. To me, $260 and $500 are effectively equivalent— assuming that the 6r actually is as robust as the Rolex 30xx (which can’t honestly be claimed given that the 6r was introduced decades after the Rolex movement).

Any BOD who has an unserviced 6r from 2006 should speak up. I’d like to hear how it compared to my unserviced GMT2 from 2004.
I assumed Rolex was like Omega and required anyone with a parts account to follow their pricing schedule… but maybe not the case.

The 6r movement is just a slightly upgraded 7s26 which has been around since the mid 90’s. Not comparing the movement performance… the Seiko’s have loose tolerances and high variation in accuracy, but they are reliable…. But cmon Jacob you are coming to the Seiko thread and saying $250 is meaningless to you while comparing cheap Seiko’s to much more expensive Rolexes.

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Re: New Seiko Thread

Post by JP Chestnut » Sat Jun 11, 2022 12:11 pm

dnslater wrote:
Sat Jun 11, 2022 11:58 am
JP Chestnut wrote:
Sat Jun 11, 2022 7:47 am
An Indy Rolex place will do it for less than $500. To me, $260 and $500 are effectively equivalent— assuming that the 6r actually is as robust as the Rolex 30xx (which can’t honestly be claimed given that the 6r was introduced decades after the Rolex movement).

Any BOD who has an unserviced 6r from 2006 should speak up. I’d like to hear how it compared to my unserviced GMT2 from 2004.
I assumed Rolex was like Omega and required anyone with a parts account to follow their pricing schedule… but maybe not the case.

The 6r movement is just a slightly upgraded 7s26 which has been around since the mid 90’s. Not comparing the movement performance… the Seiko’s have loose tolerances and high variation in accuracy, but they are reliable…. But cmon Jacob you are coming to the Seiko thread and saying $250 is meaningless to you while comparing cheap Seiko’s to much more expensive Rolexes.
How about this?

250/900 >> 800/25000

The running cost of a cheap watch is much much larger fraction of the price of a cheap watch. Which was my ultimate point. Cheap watches, TO ME, offer a false economy. If all someone can afford is a cheaper watch that’s a different story — I was there once. But buying (and ultimately flipping in a month) a cheap watch isn’t how I enjoy this hobby.

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