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Re: First Sub for me…

Post by R@cerx » Sun Aug 20, 2023 10:58 am

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I’ll say it again—16600 is my favorite watch of all time. I love 14060s, but as Jacob said they feel pretty light and a little unsubstantial on the wrist (I won’t say cheap feeling, but some might). Some may prefer that, but for me the 16600 offers a more appealing feel especially with the SELs. And they’re not much more than 14060s and 16610s are. Obviously though, get what appeals most to you. I’ll never turn down giving a 16600 pitch to someone who’s in the market for a 5-digit Rolex diver.
The only downside of a 16600 IMO is that it wears tall and somewhat floppy on a (well, mine at least) small thin wrist. If you're a fat guy, the caseback will sink in and wear very comfortably. If your wrist is flat, I'm sure it's probably ok as well. But small and boney? Probably try before you buy.

I agree with your assessment of the 14060M. It's not cheap feeling but when I first took mine out of the box I was surprised at the lightness, and that's after owning a bunch of 5 digits. I'm sure it would be shocking if you're used to modern Omega and Rolex.
Many, here and elsewhere, have remarked about 16600’s wearing tall and floppy on the wrist. I’m sure they work for some folks, or they just live with it for the sake of having a Sea-Dweller. In my experience, 16610’s and 14060’s offer a better wearing experience. Also, I was shocked how light my Explorer wore when I first got it. Now it’s one of my most worn.

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Re: First Sub for me…

Post by Joeprez » Sun Aug 20, 2023 11:07 am

I have a flat and small wrist at 6.75”. I’ve tried an SD and it works for me. Then again I have no problems with my BB Pro.

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Re: First Sub for me…

Post by Baffo » Sun Aug 20, 2023 11:09 am

I would also like the bracelet of the 14060M to be more substantial, but:
1/ it’s super comfortable
2/ it’s indestructible
3/ it’s super easy to take off and put back (fuck me I had to bring my 16570 to rolex to put it back on when I took it off)

If the above is the price to pay VS the SD to have a MUCH thinner and more comfortable watch, I’m laying this every day and twice on Sunday.

I owned both, I also have a skinny (6.75) and bong wrist. The SD was a nightmare, the 14060M is awesome.

Thinness is one of the most underrated qualities in a watch IMO

Of course to each his own.

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Post by Wario406 » Sun Aug 20, 2023 12:46 pm

I CAN’T WAIT to be providing my own real review - of a 14060 or 14060m as I think that case size is gonna fit me better than a SD. I sold a 2599.8 Seamaster Chrono because it was too thick. Same for my U1. I don’t like thick watches and have a low fat 7 1/2” wrist with a bow - so fat watches stick up like pollywogs on my wrist. I already miss my 2254.5 because it was so svelte and am hoping that my new two liner is gonna fit my bill. I’ve got a solid lead on a VERY SWEET 2006 14060 non “m” with good credentials and a recent service. I hope it passes the inspection with flying colors. If not, I’ll chase a similar one or a M that has two line face. The simple face is one of the aesthetics that I’m looking forward to.
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Re: First Sub for me…

Post by TSD » Sun Aug 20, 2023 1:55 pm

Wario406 wrote:
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I’ll chase a similar one or a M that has two line face. The simple face is one of the aesthetics that I’m looking forward to.
Two liners are the classic. You’re gonna love it. :cheers:

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Post by Chocodove » Sun Aug 20, 2023 2:38 pm

Looking forward to the pics.
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Post by BacoNoir » Sun Aug 20, 2023 4:13 pm

Wario406 wrote:I CAN’T WAIT to be providing my own real review - of a 14060 or 14060m as I think that case size is gonna fit me better than a SD. I sold a 2599.8 Seamaster Chrono because it was too thick. Same for my U1. I don’t like thick watches and have a low fat 7 1/2” wrist with a bow - so fat watches stick up like pollywogs on my wrist. I already miss my 2254.5 because it was so svelte and am hoping that my new two liner is gonna fit my bill. I’ve got a solid lead on a VERY SWEET 2006 14060 non “m” with good credentials and a recent service. I hope it passes the inspection with flying colors. If not, I’ll chase a similar one or a M that has two line face. The simple face is one of the aesthetics that I’m looking forward to.
I sold my 16600 for multiple reasons, which included the thickness and it flopping around on my wrist. If the bracelet on the 14060 doesn’t work for you, you can trade up to a 6-digit sun later.
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Re: First Sub for me…

Post by Wario406 » Sun Aug 20, 2023 5:58 pm

BacoNoir wrote:
Wario406 wrote:I CAN’T WAIT to be providing my own real review - of a 14060 or 14060m as I think that case size is gonna fit me better than a SD. I sold a 2599.8 Seamaster Chrono because it was too thick. Same for my U1. I don’t like thick watches and have a low fat 7 1/2” wrist with a bow - so fat watches stick up like pollywogs on my wrist. I already miss my 2254.5 because it was so svelte and am hoping that my new two liner is gonna fit my bill. I’ve got a solid lead on a VERY SWEET 2006 14060 non “m” with good credentials and a recent service. I hope it passes the inspection with flying colors. If not, I’ll chase a similar one or a M that has two line face. The simple face is one of the aesthetics that I’m looking forward to.
I sold my 16600 for multiple reasons, which included the thickness and it flopping around on my wrist. If the bracelet on the 14060 doesn’t work for you, you can trade up to a 6-digit sun later.
Thanks Rog - I have my Monta Nobel and I think/hope the bracelet (with micro adjust) and straps from that (one leather, one rubber) will also fit the 14060.
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Re: First Sub for me…

Post by PGERRITY » Sun Aug 20, 2023 6:16 pm

NYC had two in your range but they were both over-polished or not great. Sorry dude!


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Post by Wario406 » Sun Aug 20, 2023 6:24 pm

PGERRITY wrote:NYC had two in your range but they were both over-polished or not great. Sorry dude!


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Post by Jeep99dad » Sun Aug 20, 2023 9:23 pm

I may sell my sub 124060 if you decide to go for that at some point
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Post by Wario406 » Mon Aug 21, 2023 5:40 am

Jeep99dad wrote:I may sell my sub 124060 if you decide to go for that at some point
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Re: First Sub for me…

Post by smellody » Mon Aug 21, 2023 7:30 am

As a crazy sub guy, I'm super excited for you!!!

Even if that means that's one less sub I can get.

If you want fairly modern and can't do the maxi cases then the 14060 is for you.

Some people prefer the modified movement, but as my watchmaker says, "its a 50 year everyday life expectancy." I think there are 14060m with or without the certified chronometer language.

I had a 14060 "SWISS" only and regrettably traded it off.

16610 is another great choice, but the dial is busy and there is the date.

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Re: First Sub for me…

Post by jswing » Tue Aug 22, 2023 5:24 am

Jeep99dad wrote:
Sun Aug 20, 2023 9:23 pm
I may sell my sub 124060 if you decide to go for that at some point
Plot twist! I love my 124060, but then again I loved all of my 14060s too. You really can't go wrong either way.

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Re: First Sub for me…

Post by Wario406 » Tue Aug 22, 2023 5:32 am

jswing wrote:
Jeep99dad wrote:
Sun Aug 20, 2023 9:23 pm
I may sell my sub 124060 if you decide to go for that at some point
Plot twist! I love my 124060, but then again I loved all of my 14060s too. You really can't go wrong either way.
Ya, and I thought Todd was an enabler…
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Re: First Sub for me…

Post by tmw » Tue Aug 22, 2023 6:29 am

It's modern (124060) vs Neo-vintage (114060, 14060M) vs vintage subs (14060, 5513). I think that is a way to define it.

I guess the answer is one of each.

There is a world of difference 5 digit to 6 digit.

At least you have it down to no-date. I have to admit, I am partial to the date versions.

The 124060 is bracelet (adjustable), bezel and bigger case. The 14060 is about size, aluminum bezel and lighter bracelet.

For a "weak" comparison, the Monta OK is more of the 124060 or 114060 in feel.
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Post by tmw » Tue Aug 22, 2023 6:30 am

oh yea, these are quality problems to have.
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First Sub for me…

Post by Wario406 » Tue Aug 22, 2023 6:47 am

tmw wrote:It's modern (124060) vs Neo-vintage (114060, 14060M) vs vintage subs (14060, 5513). I think that is a way to define it.

I guess the answer is one of each.

There is a world of difference 5 digit to 6 digit.

At least you have it down to no-date. I have to admit, I am partial to the date versions.

The 124060 is bracelet (adjustable), bezel and bigger case. The 14060 is about size, aluminum bezel and lighter bracelet.

For a "weak" comparison, the Monta OK is more of the 124060 or 114060 in feel.
Well, I’d NEVER would have guessed that I’d get a modern Sub, but thankfully (Image) Brice came up with a great deal on an awesome watch.
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Re: First Sub for me…

Post by jswing » Tue Aug 22, 2023 6:57 am

Wario406 wrote:
Tue Aug 22, 2023 6:47 am
tmw wrote:It's modern (124060) vs Neo-vintage (114060, 14060M) vs vintage subs (14060, 5513). I think that is a way to define it.

I guess the answer is one of each.

There is a world of difference 5 digit to 6 digit.

At least you have it down to no-date. I have to admit, I am partial to the date versions.

The 124060 is bracelet (adjustable), bezel and bigger case. The 14060 is about size, aluminum bezel and lighter bracelet.

For a "weak" comparison, the Monta OK is more of the 124060 or 114060 in feel.
Well, I’d NEVER would have guessed that I’d get a modern Sub, but thankfully (Image) Brice came up with a great deal on an awesome watch.
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Re: First Sub for me…

Post by Wario406 » Fri Aug 25, 2023 10:52 am

Again, here I am giving thanks to this awesome community. Your input, suggestions, advice, help, and now the delivery of my first Rolex are so appreciated! You are all incredible, and some of you are SUPER incredible!




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Post by hoppyjr » Fri Aug 25, 2023 11:20 am

Excellent.

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Post by Chocodove » Fri Aug 25, 2023 12:08 pm

Pretty sweet.
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Post by Wario406 » Fri Aug 25, 2023 6:16 pm

Awe fuk. I got my sub wet. Should I sell it?!?

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Post by BacoNoir » Fri Aug 25, 2023 7:50 pm

Wario406 wrote:Awe fuk. I got my sub wet. Should I sell it?!?

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