Mr. Yao Crackpot's new release - Tornek Rayville
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Mr. Yao Crackpot's new release - Tornek Rayville
Yao bought the copyright to the brand. Here's the pre-order bla bla
Tornek-Rayville TR-660 Pre-order
Thank you for your interest in Tornek-Rayville. I would like to give you an update on the project and give you advance notice of the details of the upcoming pre-order.
Status: The watches are expected to be delivered in the next few weeks. After we receive them we will be QC'ing the pieces in preparation for fulfillment of the Plankowner customer orders. Plankowner customers are currently making their final selections.
Pre-order Offer: We will be accepting deposits for pre-orders of the TR-660. Your pre-orders will being to ship after we complete the fulfillment of the Plankowner orders. The following are the details for your review:
Slots available: 175 (This is not a limited edition. We are limiting the size of the pre-order for administrative reasons.)
Deposit amount: $450 (For this amount you will lock in a price of $895 plus S&H. Expected regular MSRP will be $949 plus S&H.)
Final Order placement: You will be notified via email to make your final selection (bezel and strap options) later this year. At that point in time the balance of your payment ($445.00 + S&H or $475.00 +S&H, depending on strap selected) will be due and you will submit your delivery address.
Versions: There is an acrylic insert version and an aluminum insert version. Both are non-date.
Lead time: Shipments for this pre-order stage are anticipated to begin in Dec. 2021 or Q1 2022. Given this estimate we can not guarantee delivery in time for the winter holidays. Please note that this is a rough estimate and may change based on the QC of the received watches.
Cancellations: Please note that unlike in the past there will be a $35 cancellation fee. The reason for this is that neither of our payment processors refunds fees for refunded payments anymore.
Ordering Details:
If the Plankowner stage was any indication demand may be strong. We recommend that you take the opporutnity today to set up your account on the new site and contact us if you have any problems setting up the account. Setting up your account early should give you an edge during the checkout phase.
Original for reference
Specs
Dimensions
Case Width 40.00 mm (not including crown)
Case Thickness 14.70 mm
Case Length 48.50 mm end to end
Lug Width 20.00 mm
Weight 84 grams
Crystal Double domed sapphire crystal, with anti-reflective coating on interior surface only
Luminous Arclite Super LumiNova (green emission)
Movement Made in Japan SII NE15 (Rotor features Côtes de Genève), quickset date, hack setting, automatic with manual winding capability. Movement origin: Made in Japan
Water Resistance 20 ATMs (200 meters)
Case Finish Bead-blasted 316L stainless steel
Other • Country of Origin: Made in Japan
• Drilled through lugs
• Double gasket screw-down crown
• Timed in 3 positions
I love the original. I have considered this watch, maybe for 2 seconds, then remembered it's coming from this guy.
Tornek-Rayville TR-660 Pre-order
Thank you for your interest in Tornek-Rayville. I would like to give you an update on the project and give you advance notice of the details of the upcoming pre-order.
Status: The watches are expected to be delivered in the next few weeks. After we receive them we will be QC'ing the pieces in preparation for fulfillment of the Plankowner customer orders. Plankowner customers are currently making their final selections.
Pre-order Offer: We will be accepting deposits for pre-orders of the TR-660. Your pre-orders will being to ship after we complete the fulfillment of the Plankowner orders. The following are the details for your review:
Slots available: 175 (This is not a limited edition. We are limiting the size of the pre-order for administrative reasons.)
Deposit amount: $450 (For this amount you will lock in a price of $895 plus S&H. Expected regular MSRP will be $949 plus S&H.)
Final Order placement: You will be notified via email to make your final selection (bezel and strap options) later this year. At that point in time the balance of your payment ($445.00 + S&H or $475.00 +S&H, depending on strap selected) will be due and you will submit your delivery address.
Versions: There is an acrylic insert version and an aluminum insert version. Both are non-date.
Lead time: Shipments for this pre-order stage are anticipated to begin in Dec. 2021 or Q1 2022. Given this estimate we can not guarantee delivery in time for the winter holidays. Please note that this is a rough estimate and may change based on the QC of the received watches.
Cancellations: Please note that unlike in the past there will be a $35 cancellation fee. The reason for this is that neither of our payment processors refunds fees for refunded payments anymore.
Ordering Details:
If the Plankowner stage was any indication demand may be strong. We recommend that you take the opporutnity today to set up your account on the new site and contact us if you have any problems setting up the account. Setting up your account early should give you an edge during the checkout phase.
Original for reference
Specs
Dimensions
Case Width 40.00 mm (not including crown)
Case Thickness 14.70 mm
Case Length 48.50 mm end to end
Lug Width 20.00 mm
Weight 84 grams
Crystal Double domed sapphire crystal, with anti-reflective coating on interior surface only
Luminous Arclite Super LumiNova (green emission)
Movement Made in Japan SII NE15 (Rotor features Côtes de Genève), quickset date, hack setting, automatic with manual winding capability. Movement origin: Made in Japan
Water Resistance 20 ATMs (200 meters)
Case Finish Bead-blasted 316L stainless steel
Other • Country of Origin: Made in Japan
• Drilled through lugs
• Double gasket screw-down crown
• Timed in 3 positions
I love the original. I have considered this watch, maybe for 2 seconds, then remembered it's coming from this guy.
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Re: Mr. Yao Crackpot's new release - Tornek Rayville
I like the watch. I’d think about trying one from the pre-owned market but don’t think I’ll support his business model.
Re: Mr. Yao Crackpot's new release - Tornek Rayville
"Your pre-orders will being to ship after we complete the fulfillment of the Plankowner orders"
I guess the QC on the email was not up to snuff. Plank this.
I guess the QC on the email was not up to snuff. Plank this.
Re: Mr. Yao Crackpot's new release - Tornek Rayville
41mm diameter
14mm thick
20mm lugs (drilled holes)
Seiko NH35 movement
Domed sapphire crystal AR coating
Lumed bezel
Titanium case
61 grams
X1 Superluminova
30 ATM water resistance
$289 and ships when you order
* No-date version likely later this year, so it’ll be attainable before Yao spends your deposit
* Maratac is less than 1/3 the price of Yao
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Re: Mr. Yao Crackpot's new release - Tornek Rayville
I do like the watch.
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Re: Mr. Yao Crackpot's new release - Tornek Rayville
Ugh, I like it, too. But it’s lighting $500 and watching it burn.
Edit: Are SII NE15s as hit or miss as the 6r15? I assume no improvements from the 6r35s trickled down yet.
Edit: Are SII NE15s as hit or miss as the 6r15? I assume no improvements from the 6r35s trickled down yet.
Re: Mr. Yao Crackpot's new release - Tornek Rayville
Why bother? Aren’t there a half dozen other brands that make an equivalent that will ship within a few days?
Oh, sorry. The other brands don’t have the hands on dedication or craftsmanship.
Oh, sorry. The other brands don’t have the hands on dedication or craftsmanship.
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Re: Mr. Yao Crackpot's new release - Tornek Rayville
Looks nice and a brand I’d not heard of in some time. Not willing to risk it though, $900 not cheap enough to chance it for me
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Re: Mr. Yao Crackpot's new release - Tornek Rayville
I do love the original. I had his Kingston way back when, and got it without a bunch of BS. Felt weird wearing a knock off though, so I sold it pretty quick. How does he get away with putting Tornek Rayville on the dial? Did he buy the name or something?
Re: Mr. Yao Crackpot's new release - Tornek Rayville
He did buy the name.jswing wrote:I do love the original. I had his Kingston way back when, and got it without a bunch of BS. Felt weird wearing a knock off though, so I sold it pretty quick. How does he get away with putting Tornek Rayville on the dial? Did he buy the name or something?
Re: Mr. Yao Crackpot's new release - Tornek Rayville
lots of loaded hipsters just don't seem to mind waiting 5 years... it's all part of the 'experience'
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Re: Mr. Yao Crackpot's new release - Tornek Rayville
So if these ship on time does it prove all those shots of him QCing batches of hands for the 300 and Kingston were complete bull shit, or that he no longer cares about QC? Which one is it?
Re: Mr. Yao Crackpot's new release - Tornek Rayville
He won’t ship on time. My money is on many delays, all in the name of inferior components or his meticulous “attention to detail”.sierra11b wrote:So if these ship on time does it prove all those shots of him QCing batches of hands for the 300 and Kingston were complete bull shit, or that he no longer cares about QC? Which one is it?
The initial preorder was opened and deposits taken in February 2020, so it seems likely he needs this current batch of preorders to pay for the parts needed to fulfill the “plank” people.
I just don’t trust him or his strange business model.
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Re: Mr. Yao Crackpot's new release - Tornek Rayville
Interesting. Well, it's based on a very cool Blancpain.hoppyjr wrote: ↑Tue Jul 20, 2021 10:22 amHe did buy the name.jswing wrote:I do love the original. I had his Kingston way back when, and got it without a bunch of BS. Felt weird wearing a knock off though, so I sold it pretty quick. How does he get away with putting Tornek Rayville on the dial? Did he buy the name or something?
Re: Mr. Yao Crackpot's new release - Tornek Rayville
he has never shipped anything 'on time' as originally promised... ever... if he sneezes, you get delays
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Re: Mr. Yao Crackpot's new release - Tornek Rayville
Really like the watch, but I’ll never buy direct from him.
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Re: Mr. Yao Crackpot's new release - Tornek Rayville
Nice looking watch, but too much BS to wade through. Like Mike, I'd consider one from the pr-owned market.
"Don't sweat the petty things and don't pet the sweaty things." - George Carlin
Re: Mr. Yao Crackpot's new release - Tornek Rayville
I'll second (or third or forth) the sentiment of buying on the secondary market.
For $900, I think the Synchron Military is a better value.
For $900, I think the Synchron Military is a better value.
Re: Mr. Yao Crackpot's new release - Tornek Rayville
You save $54 by sending him the Ponzi scheme money..
If the watch eventually ships and since this is not a limited edition, i suspect you can pick up a lightly used example and save more than 50 bucks - and avoid all the drama...
If the watch eventually ships and since this is not a limited edition, i suspect you can pick up a lightly used example and save more than 50 bucks - and avoid all the drama...
VR/
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Re: Mr. Yao Crackpot's new release - Tornek Rayville
but if you don't get the drama, you're not in "the club."
Re: Mr. Yao Crackpot's new release - Tornek Rayville
My club is reserved for MK
VR/
Paul
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Re: Mr. Yao Crackpot's new release - Tornek Rayville
"Plank owner" "deposit" "QC" blah blah blah.
Same old shit, different watch.
Same old shit, different watch.
Re: Mr. Yao Crackpot's new release - Tornek Rayville
I wouldn’t give Yao the sweat off my balls if he was dying of thirst in the desert.
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Re: Mr. Yao Crackpot's new release - Tornek Rayville
and now, he's getting media coverage from all the usual blogs. fun stuff
Re: Mr. Yao Crackpot's new release - Tornek Rayville
Hahahahaha! Nailed it.
I like the looks but was bummed to hear that Yao is behind it. I'm sure he's a nice guy, but the tales of woe are just waaaaaaay too numerous surrounding his MkII stuff.
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