Timepiece Gentleman

[Selym]

If it’s a stunt, they’ve obviously hired Nathan Fielder as a marketing consultant.

[r.palace]

If it’s a stunt, they’ve obviously hired Nathan Fielder as a marketing consultant.

Id love to see that.

[JBZ]

Here's a local news report with an interview with their lawyer. Not much additional info, but the only other things I've been able to find beyond the original article is a few Archie Luxury videos where he rants and raves about them (and I just can't watch him).

https://cw33.com/morning-after/timepiec ... goes-dark/

[hoppyjr]

Here's a local news report with an interview with their lawyer. Not much additional info, but the only other things I've been able to find beyond the original article is a few Archie Luxury videos where he rants and raves about them (and I just can't watch him).

https://cw33.com/morning-after/timepiec ... goes-dark/

No doubt they paid “Archie” for his endorsement. The guy is a whore for $$

[Chocodove]

Here's a local news report with an interview with their lawyer. Not much additional info, but the only other things I've been able to find beyond the original article is a few Archie Luxury videos where he rants and raves about them (and I just can't watch him).

https://cw33.com/morning-after/timepiec ... goes-dark/

No doubt they paid “Archie” for his endorsement. The guy is a whore for $$

I actually think he got pissed they wouldn’t buy a promo or whatever, so he started ranting about them.

[JDC222]

It's pretty stupid to essentially "steal" all those consignment watches considering that many of the owners surely know the serial numbers, etc. It's a lot of stuff to illicitly unload in one way or another, if that is what they actually plan on doing. I don't put anything past anyone these days, especially YouTube "celebrities".

There are plenty of places on this planet that they can sell the stolen watches, without questions or concerns about the origin.

[JBZ]

Here's a local news report with an interview with their lawyer. Not much additional info, but the only other things I've been able to find beyond the original article is a few Archie Luxury videos where he rants and raves about them (and I just can't watch him).

https://cw33.com/morning-after/timepiec ... goes-dark/

No doubt they paid “Archie” for his endorsement. The guy is a whore for $$

I actually think he got pissed they wouldn’t buy a promo or whatever, so he started ranting about them.

Yeah, something about them offering to buy some ad space on his channel but never coming through. It’s so hard to tell with Archie. Beyond the yelling, he’s extremely repetitive and self-centered. He never gets to the point and his story details are always changing slightly. It makes it hard to figure out exactly what his issue with them was (plus, I can only make it through about 5 minutes of his videos, and that’s on a good day).

[Henryj]

I listened to the interview with the lawyer. Here’s what I took away from it.

First, his statement “Like so many of my clients, there’s a rush to judgment…” To me, that sounds like he deals with bottom feeders, not business law.

Second, he didn’t make any substantive statements, just generalities about his client’s intent. He said nothing that could actually be checked.

Finally, he makes the excuse that his client is away from the business because he’s “giving back to the community”. Michael Kobold w/o as many frequent liar miles.

Just my humble opinion, but the lawyer didn’t give me a warm fuzzy at all. His comment about his clients being either the dumbest criminals or the smartest businessmen? Based on general observation of humanity, the odds are not in favor of “smartest businessmen”.

To be fair, they might be playing a game just to hype things up. But, if I was a betting man, I’d guess they started out with the best of intentions. Once the money started coming in, it could have been a simple case of not knowing what to do next. “Call Rolex and Omega, tell them we want Subs and Seamasters below wholesale because we have $2 million dollars to play with.” “I did. They laughed at me.”

[JBZ]

I listened to the interview with the lawyer. Here’s what I took away from it.

First, his statement “Like so many of my clients, there’s a rush to judgment…” To me, that sounds like he deals with bottom feeders, not business law.

Second, he didn’t make any substantive statements, just generalities about his client’s intent. He said nothing that could actually be checked.

Finally, he makes the excuse that his client is away from the business because he’s “giving back to the community”. Michael Kobold w/o as many frequent liar miles.

Just my humble opinion, but the lawyer didn’t give me a warm fuzzy at all. His comment about his clients being either the dumbest criminals or the smartest businessmen? Based on general observation of humanity, the odds are not in favor of “smartest businessmen”.

To be fair, they might be playing a game just to hype things up. But, if I was a betting man, I’d guess they started out with the best of intentions. Once the money started coming in, it could have been a simple case of not knowing what to do next. “Call Rolex and Omega, tell them we want Subs and Seamasters below wholesale because we have $2 million dollars to play with.” “I did. They laughed at me.”

I agree with you about the lawyer, Henry. Of course I have no idea about his other clients, and lawyers often have to try to make lemonade from lemons, but it sounds like these particular clients haven't given him a lot to work with. My guess is he honestly has no idea where they are or why they've done what they've done. If he did, like the reporter said post-interview, he would have provided some sort of explanation, even if he couldn't get into specifics (e.g. they had a landlord dispute, one of their sellers reneged on a deal and they're dealing with that, etc.). But all he said that was even close to verifiable was that "some" clients are having no trouble getting in touch with the principals. But even that's pretty hard to confirm.

On your last point, you may be right, but if the stories to this point are to be believed they had plenty of watches on consignment that they could have sold. Even though the bulk of that money would have gone back to the sellers, I'm sure they made a nice fee from each sale. It's looking more and more like they just took off. I have a hard time seeing how this is some sort of master stroke of marketing to gin up interest in the business. All it's doing is upsetting investors and consignors and making everyone else wary of ever doing business with them.

[JP Chestnut]

I listened to the interview with the lawyer. Here’s what I took away from it.

First, his statement “Like so many of my clients, there’s a rush to judgment…” To me, that sounds like he deals with bottom feeders, not business law.

Second, he didn’t make any substantive statements, just generalities about his client’s intent. He said nothing that could actually be checked.

Finally, he makes the excuse that his client is away from the business because he’s “giving back to the community”. Michael Kobold w/o as many frequent liar miles.

Just my humble opinion, but the lawyer didn’t give me a warm fuzzy at all. His comment about his clients being either the dumbest criminals or the smartest businessmen? Based on general observation of humanity, the odds are not in favor of “smartest businessmen”.

To be fair, they might be playing a game just to hype things up. But, if I was a betting man, I’d guess they started out with the best of intentions. Once the money started coming in, it could have been a simple case of not knowing what to do next. “Call Rolex and Omega, tell them we want Subs and Seamasters below wholesale because we have $2 million dollars to play with.” “I did. They laughed at me.”

I have a hard time seeing how this is some sort of master stroke of marketing to gin up interest in the business. All it's doing is upsetting investors and consignors and making everyone else wary of ever doing business with them.

If it's all an attempt at marketing, then it's up there with Kobold's "I'm a secret agent fighting super villians in Nepal and that's why I couldn't get those fire trucks over there. Just wait for my 18 part documentary!"

[gwells]

honestly, looking at the pictures of those guys, their pics, i'm not thinking, "these are the guys i want to invest with."

and that car... yeesh. just fucking tacky.

[JBZ]

I listened to the interview with the lawyer. Here’s what I took away from it.

First, his statement “Like so many of my clients, there’s a rush to judgment…” To me, that sounds like he deals with bottom feeders, not business law.

Second, he didn’t make any substantive statements, just generalities about his client’s intent. He said nothing that could actually be checked.

Finally, he makes the excuse that his client is away from the business because he’s “giving back to the community”. Michael Kobold w/o as many frequent liar miles.

Just my humble opinion, but the lawyer didn’t give me a warm fuzzy at all. His comment about his clients being either the dumbest criminals or the smartest businessmen? Based on general observation of humanity, the odds are not in favor of “smartest businessmen”.

To be fair, they might be playing a game just to hype things up. But, if I was a betting man, I’d guess they started out with the best of intentions. Once the money started coming in, it could have been a simple case of not knowing what to do next. “Call Rolex and Omega, tell them we want Subs and Seamasters below wholesale because we have $2 million dollars to play with.” “I did. They laughed at me.”

I have a hard time seeing how this is some sort of master stroke of marketing to gin up interest in the business. All it's doing is upsetting investors and consignors and making everyone else wary of ever doing business with them.

If it's all an attempt at marketing, then it's up there with Kobold's "I'm a secret agent fighting super villians in Nepal and that's why I couldn't get those fire trucks over there. Just wait for my 18 part documentary!"

Except Kobold's stuff is totally true - duh.

[JBZ]

I looked up the attorney. He's a criminal defense lawyer, not a business lawyer. So the TPG guys are obviously worried about...something.

[gwells]

well, one of them is an ex-con, so maybe that was just his original criminal defense lawyer.

[demer03]

Buy smart….buy WU-Mart

[BlueSky]

honestly, looking at the pictures of those guys, their pics, i'm not thinking, "these are the guys i want to invest with."

and that car... yeesh. just fucking tacky.

Was it George Carlin that said within 10 seconds it should be clear if someone is full of S*** or not?

[hoppyjr]

Aaaaaaand….. a really poorly executed publicity stunt?

“Breaking News: The Timepiece Gentleman is Back. They Didn't Vanish, They Were Just Giving Back to the Community.” via @watchville https://api.watchville.co/v2/posts/62072/click

[Chocodove]

Rather anticlimactic if you ask me.

[mfxr]

Well there you go. A PR stunt, not a scam.
I guess they got plenty of coverage which was probably the goal. Add a bit of a charity spin and they should come out looking like good guys.
I guess I am too cynical to view this as genuine altruism, but I suppose the charities will benefit so that is not a bad thing.

I get the feeling that the PR/YouTube/Image part of this business is the driver, with the watches just being the content medium almost.

[gwells]

i don't need to watch the video to say they don't come off as good guys. it's shitty business to blow off your customer base like that. not that i knew who they were, but i'd never do business with them now that i do.

[Abmw]

Who in the world would want to do business with these guys after this dumb ass stunt? If I had watches on consignment with them I would request to get them back asap.

[JBZ]

If it takes you an hour (of edited video no less) to explain why everything was all a big misunderstanding, then I don't believe your explanation.

Doesn't really matter to me - I had never heard of these guys until this story broke. But I know I'll never do business with them.

[mfxr]

They have pulled the video now - weird.
I am sure Archie Luxury can explain it to everyone

[toxicavenger]

If they had any of my shitty watches and pulled this stunt they would be getting kicked in the nutz

[JP Chestnut]

The Crimepiece Gentleman.