New AP Divers

[goaliechris]

Being released soon with updated movement and a new strap change system. Like these a lot.

https://monochrome-watches.com/audemars ... -on-price/


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[Morethan1]

They still haven't added a chamfer or fillet to that sharp ass crown edge...

Serena has to wear a bandage cause it's so damn sharp lol

[logan2z]

I saw that announcement the other day too. Odd that there is no black dial in the initial lineup, I assume they will add one at some point.

Besides the addition of the ceramic crown (which was long overdue) I think I prefer the design of the previous model.

[JP Chestnut]

They still haven't added a chamfer or fillet to that sharp ass crown edge...

That's funny. I'm left handed (so I wear a watch crown-to-elbow) on my right wrist. Being a lefty, I figured I should try a destro watch (it was an EZM1) so I could experience the "proper" crown-to-hand orientation. I couldn't believe how FUCKING UNCOMFORTABLE it was. I can't believe that the vast majority of watch wearers have to put up with that. Crown-to-elbow is so much more comfortable.

[Panerai7]

They still haven't added a chamfer or fillet to that sharp ass crown edge...

That's funny. I'm left handed (so I wear a watch crown-to-elbow) on my right wrist. Being a lefty, I figured I should try a destro watch (it was an EZM1) so I could experience the "proper" crown-to-hand orientation. I couldn't believe how FUCKING UNCOMFORTABLE it was. I can't believe that the vast majority of watch wearers have to put up with that. Crown-to-elbow is so much more comfortable.

I’m a lefty and I still wear watches on the left wrist. You get used to the crown poking if a watch slides down on the wrist

PS. Something they did to the new diver it looks smaller, moved the hour markers closer to the center not sure

[JP Chestnut]

They still haven't added a chamfer or fillet to that sharp ass crown edge...

That's funny. I'm left handed (so I wear a watch crown-to-elbow) on my right wrist. Being a lefty, I figured I should try a destro watch (it was an EZM1) so I could experience the "proper" crown-to-hand orientation. I couldn't believe how FUCKING UNCOMFORTABLE it was. I can't believe that the vast majority of watch wearers have to put up with that. Crown-to-elbow is so much more comfortable.

I’m a lefty and I still wear watches on the left wrist. You get used to the crown poking if a watch slides down on the wrist

PS. Something they did to the new diver it looks smaller, moved the hour markers closer to the center not sure

I'm not sure I could ever get used to it. The EZM1 is a light watch too. I'm sure something heavier and floppier would be even worse.

[rockmastermike]

not a fan of the new hour markers, I prefer the old stick ones that I'm used to seeing, but then again, AP didn't ask me, lol

[JBZ]

not a fan of the new hour markers, I prefer the old stick ones that I'm used to seeing, but then again, AP didn't ask me, lol

I agree. And I prefer the font on the older bezel. AP also didn't ask me, so don't take it personally.

[59yukon01]

So if you took the AP name off these would anyone seriously like them?

Call me simple or cheap, but I've yet to see an AP watch that I'd buy, much less wear, even if I could afford them.

[r.palace]

They still haven't added a chamfer or fillet to that sharp ass crown edge...

That's funny. I'm left handed (so I wear a watch crown-to-elbow) on my right wrist. Being a lefty, I figured I should try a destro watch (it was an EZM1) so I could experience the "proper" crown-to-hand orientation. I couldn't believe how FUCKING UNCOMFORTABLE it was. I can't believe that the vast majority of watch wearers have to put up with that. Crown-to-elbow is so much more comfortable.

I’m right handed but wear my watch on my right hand. I agree.

[Panerai7]

So if you took the AP name off these would anyone seriously like them?

Call me simple or cheap, but I've yet to see an AP watch that I'd buy, much less wear, even if I could afford them.

Not this one but the preceding model Diver maybe I would. The other ones like 15400 and PP Nautilus no way in hell. But many won’t admit it.

[logan2z]

The other ones like 15400 and PP Nautilus no way in hell. But many won’t admit it.

Won't admit what?

[Panerai7]

The other ones like 15400 and PP Nautilus no way in hell. But many won’t admit it.

Won't admit what?

That they wouldn’t buy those integrated bracelet Omega Constellation from 70s looking watches if they weren’t AP PP and hyped up to hell in the last 5-7 years.

[logan2z]

The other ones like 15400 and PP Nautilus no way in hell. But many won’t admit it.

Won't admit what?

That they wouldn’t buy those integrated bracelet Omega Constellation from 70s looking watches if they weren’t AP PP and hyped up to hell in the last 5-7 years.

That may be the case for some buyers. In my case, I bought my 15400 because I actually liked the watch. I don't care one bit about watch hype or buy for investment reasons.

I suspect your assertion holds equally well for Rolex. I'd guess that many current owners bought simply because the watch holds its value and is viewed by many as a status symbol. I can't personally think of another reason to own one.

[Panerai7]

The other ones like 15400 and PP Nautilus no way in hell. But many won’t admit it.

Won't admit what?

That they wouldn’t buy those integrated bracelet Omega Constellation from 70s looking watches if they weren’t AP PP and hyped up to hell in the last 5-7 years.

That may be the case for some buyers. In my case, I bought my 15400 because I actually liked the watch. I don't care one bit about watch hype or buy for investment reasons.

I suspect your assertion holds equally well for Rolex. I'd guess that many current owners bought simply because the watch holds its value and is viewed by many as a status symbol. I can't personally think of another reason to own one.

You might be different but many buy those hideous watches only because they’re hard to get and in trend right now on social media

[JP Chestnut]

The other ones like 15400 and PP Nautilus no way in hell. But many won’t admit it.

Won't admit what?

That they wouldn’t buy those integrated bracelet Omega Constellation from 70s looking watches if they weren’t AP PP and hyped up to hell in the last 5-7 years.

That may be the case for some buyers. In my case, I bought my 15400 because I actually liked the watch. I don't care one bit about watch hype or buy for investment reasons.

I suspect your assertion holds equally well for Rolex. I'd guess that many current owners bought simply because the watch holds its value and is viewed by many as a status symbol. I can't personally think of another reason to own one.

You might be different but many buy those hideous watches only because they’re hard to get and in trend right now on social media

For sure. The finishing on the nautilus and apro is very very fine in person but it’s not durable and in the case of the PP the clasp is total shit and the movement is unreliable.

They were niche watches for certain kinds of buyers. Now they’re the most amazing thing ever.

[flyskate]

The other ones like 15400 and PP Nautilus no way in hell. But many won’t admit it.

Won't admit what?

That they wouldn’t buy those integrated bracelet Omega Constellation from 70s looking watches if they weren’t AP PP and hyped up to hell in the last 5-7 years.

That may be the case for some buyers. In my case, I bought my 15400 because I actually liked the watch. I don't care one bit about watch hype or buy for investment reasons.

I suspect your assertion holds equally well for Rolex. I'd guess that many current owners bought simply because the watch holds its value and is viewed by many as a status symbol. I can't personally think of another reason to own one.

I bought my Rolex watches because of there design and build quality, say what you like, but there's something to be said about refining a design over time, and their build quality and finish is second to none. IMHO

[JP Chestnut]

The other ones like 15400 and PP Nautilus no way in hell. But many won’t admit it.

Won't admit what?

That they wouldn’t buy those integrated bracelet Omega Constellation from 70s looking watches if they weren’t AP PP and hyped up to hell in the last 5-7 years.

That may be the case for some buyers. In my case, I bought my 15400 because I actually liked the watch. I don't care one bit about watch hype or buy for investment reasons.

I suspect your assertion holds equally well for Rolex. I'd guess that many current owners bought simply because the watch holds its value and is viewed by many as a status symbol. I can't personally think of another reason to own one.

I bought my Rolex watches because of there design and build quality, say what you like, but there's something to be said about refining a design over time, and their build quality and finish is second to none. IMHO

Not to mention the robustness of their movements. They just go and go. They’re the antithesis of PP in that respect.

[logan2z]

The other ones like 15400 and PP Nautilus no way in hell. But many won’t admit it.

Won't admit what?

That they wouldn’t buy those integrated bracelet Omega Constellation from 70s looking watches if they weren’t AP PP and hyped up to hell in the last 5-7 years.

That may be the case for some buyers. In my case, I bought my 15400 because I actually liked the watch. I don't care one bit about watch hype or buy for investment reasons.

I suspect your assertion holds equally well for Rolex. I'd guess that many current owners bought simply because the watch holds its value and is viewed by many as a status symbol. I can't personally think of another reason to own one.

I bought my Rolex watches because of there design and build quality, say what you like, but there's something to be said about refining a design over time, and their build quality and finish is second to none. IMHO

I'm not putting down Rolex owners or the watches. What I said was I didn't personally see a reason to own one, other than perhaps value retention or their recognizability (if I cared about either of those things). I was simply pointing out that Art's assertion that people only buy APs because of hype could be applied equally well (and probably more so) to Rolex.

Does anyone honestly believe that hype isn't the primary reason behind the insane rise in Rolex prices or the shenanigans that go on at ADs?

[logan2z]

The other ones like 15400 and PP Nautilus no way in hell. But many won’t admit it.

Won't admit what?

That they wouldn’t buy those integrated bracelet Omega Constellation from 70s looking watches if they weren’t AP PP and hyped up to hell in the last 5-7 years.

That may be the case for some buyers. In my case, I bought my 15400 because I actually liked the watch. I don't care one bit about watch hype or buy for investment reasons.

I suspect your assertion holds equally well for Rolex. I'd guess that many current owners bought simply because the watch holds its value and is viewed by many as a status symbol. I can't personally think of another reason to own one.

You might be different but many buy those hideous watches only because they’re hard to get and in trend right now on social media

Obviously there are some people here who own or have owned the watches and don't think they're hideous.

I don't recall another instance where a DWC member called another member's watch hideous. But then you have no class so I'm not surprised.

[logan2z]

The other ones like 15400 and PP Nautilus no way in hell. But many won’t admit it.

Won't admit what?

That they wouldn’t buy those integrated bracelet Omega Constellation from 70s looking watches if they weren’t AP PP and hyped up to hell in the last 5-7 years.

That may be the case for some buyers. In my case, I bought my 15400 because I actually liked the watch. I don't care one bit about watch hype or buy for investment reasons.

I suspect your assertion holds equally well for Rolex. I'd guess that many current owners bought simply because the watch holds its value and is viewed by many as a status symbol. I can't personally think of another reason to own one.

You might be different but many buy those hideous watches only because they’re hard to get and in trend right now on social media

Obviously there are some people here who own or have owned the watches and don't think they're hideous.

I don't recall another instance where a DWC member called another member's watch hideous. But then you have no class so I'm not surprised.

[Panerai7]

The other ones like 15400 and PP Nautilus no way in hell. But many won’t admit it.

Won't admit what?

That they wouldn’t buy those integrated bracelet Omega Constellation from 70s looking watches if they weren’t AP PP and hyped up to hell in the last 5-7 years.

That may be the case for some buyers. In my case, I bought my 15400 because I actually liked the watch. I don't care one bit about watch hype or buy for investment reasons.

I suspect your assertion holds equally well for Rolex. I'd guess that many current owners bought simply because the watch holds its value and is viewed by many as a status symbol. I can't personally think of another reason to own one.

I bought my Rolex watches because of there design and build quality, say what you like, but there's something to be said about refining a design over time, and their build quality and finish is second to none. IMHO

I'm not putting down Rolex owners or the watches. What I said was I didn't personally see a reason to own one, other than perhaps value retention or their recognizability (if I cared about either of those things). I was simply pointing out that Art's assertion that people only buy APs because of hype could be applied equally well (and probably more so) to Rolex.

Does anyone honestly believe that hype isn't the primary reason behind the insane rise in Rolex prices or the shenanigans that go on at ADs?

I simply said that some/many buy for the hype. If you bought because you actually liked it that’s great.

My first Automatic watch was Invicta 8926, because I liked Rolex Sub look but Invicta was all I could afford at that time.
Would you buy Invicta 15400 look alike? If the answer is yes then you’re not one of those who just buy for the hype and have money to do it.

Anyway AP Diver is the only AP I would own I think, but the new one above

[blkgsl]

So back on topic haha - ap must be getting annoyed at all the profit potential lost from aftermarket straps.

I agree with the ceramic crowns being a good change. We’ll also have to see how the 43xx movement holds up; the 3120 isn’t the most reliable, but it is a known quantity at this point.

[jimyritz]

Clearly the AP is different but when I saw it I thought this...







I don't love it but I would love a Royal Oak 15400ST

Mike

[JBZ]

I've always found the royal oak design very appealing. Some of the individual watches I could take or leave, like a lot of the overlarge offshores with the giant chrono buttons or even the newer 15500, which looks a bit too large in the dial to me. But I dig the case design.

Hype clearly has something to do with it, but there are AP designs that I don't like at all and wouldn't buy, like the Millenary or the Code 11.59.