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Tariffs from Canada?

Post by djh1201 » Mon Feb 24, 2025 9:22 am

Hey, thinking about ordering a watch from a dealer in Canada, shipping would be USPS (and I assume initially Canada Post).

I assume there is a tariff? Any idea how much? likelihood of getting hit with the tariff? Thanks in advance.

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Post by DocHollidayDDS » Mon Feb 24, 2025 11:21 am

1. I believe tariffs were postponed for 30 days, I think March 4 is the deadline.

2. Wouldn't such tariffs only apply to goods manufactured in Canada, not items merely shipped from there to the US?

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Post by djh1201 » Mon Feb 24, 2025 11:28 am

DocHollidayDDS wrote:
Mon Feb 24, 2025 11:21 am
1. I believe tariffs were postponed for 30 days, I think March 4 is the deadline.

2. Wouldn't such tariffs only apply to goods manufactured in Canada, not items merely shipped from there to the US?
Thanks, but I assumed that we already have some sort of an import tax from Canada for luxury items like watches?

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Re: Tariffs from Canada?

Post by ssultan » Mon Feb 24, 2025 11:44 am

I’m in Canada. It’s a total mess right now. I’m pretty sure nothing has been implemented as yet on the Canadian side. Who’s the dealer?


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Post by DocHollidayDDS » Mon Feb 24, 2025 11:49 am

djh1201 wrote:
Mon Feb 24, 2025 11:28 am
DocHollidayDDS wrote:
Mon Feb 24, 2025 11:21 am
1. I believe tariffs were postponed for 30 days, I think March 4 is the deadline.

2. Wouldn't such tariffs only apply to goods manufactured in Canada, not items merely shipped from there to the US?
Thanks, but I assumed that we already have some sort of an import tax from Canada for luxury items like watches?
Yes, any item valued over $800 is subject to US customs duties. Over $2500 and the process gets more detailed.

https://www.dhl.com/discover/en-my/logi ... and-Duties

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Post by djh1201 » Mon Feb 24, 2025 11:50 am

ssultan wrote:
Mon Feb 24, 2025 11:44 am
I’m in Canada. It’s a total mess right now. I’m pretty sure nothing has been implemented as yet on the Canadian side. Who’s the dealer?


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Russell Jewelers in Vancouver. I've seen conflicting information on existing USA customs fees, some sites say free, some 4% if the watch is valued over $800, another site gave me $3.46. (Selling price is $1200)

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Post by JDC222 » Mon Feb 24, 2025 12:35 pm

You will be charged duty, based on the country that the watch was manufactured in and any applicable tax, based on the State that you are having it sent to.
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Post by djh1201 » Mon Feb 24, 2025 1:08 pm

JDC222 wrote:
Mon Feb 24, 2025 12:35 pm
You will be charged duty, based on the country that the watch was manufactured in and any applicable tax, based on the State that you are having it sent to.
Agreed, just trying to figure out if we are talking $50, or more like $150.

So Swiss rates even if it ships from Canada?

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Post by JDC222 » Mon Feb 24, 2025 3:13 pm

If the watch was manufactured in the USA and you bought it from a seller in Canada, you would not pay duty, only the appropriate taxes. I dont know what the duty is on a Swiss watch being imported in to the USA.
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Post by ssultan » Mon Feb 24, 2025 3:14 pm

But do they even care or go off of the declared value….


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Post by DocHollidayDDS » Mon Feb 24, 2025 3:17 pm

JDC222 wrote:
Mon Feb 24, 2025 3:13 pm
If the watch was manufactured in the USA and you bought it from a seller in Canada, you would not pay duty, only the appropriate taxes. I dont know what the duty is on a Swiss watch being imported in to the USA.
I'm also wondering how this works with various dealers. For instance, I don't believe you have to pay import duties on Sinn watches bought from WatchBuys, even though these are obviously made in Germany. Is this because WatchBuys is an officially licensed seller for Sinn in the US, and that exempts them from customs tax? I'm sure if you buy Sinn straight from a European dealer, you're going to have to pay the tax man.

I also think there are exemptions for antiques, so it's possible that some vintage watches might qualify for that, though I'm unsure where the line would be drawn in terms of age.

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Tariffs from Canada?

Post by ssultan » Mon Feb 24, 2025 3:20 pm

Well. I’ll tell you this…my 5 digit sub from jacek cost me 13% bringing it into Canada…a few weeks ago…based off of the declared value.


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Post by River Rat » Mon Feb 24, 2025 8:31 pm

Tariffs a dumb move. In Montana 70% of our oil comes from Canada. The refinery In Billings that makes our gas. I can see California gas prices in Montana. A lot on Montana building supplies like lumber come from Canada since we are next door. Some of the stuff my builder used on my house noticed the maple leaf on it. Glad I just put in a new dishwasher before tariffs.

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Post by River Rat » Tue Feb 25, 2025 1:06 pm

Really don't understand why we treat our allies this way. In WW2 there was this unit.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Spe ... vice_Force
There is an old WW2 movie about it a great movie the devil's brigade. In Helena there is a park with a memorial to this unit maybe the only place in the USA were the US flag and the Canadian flag are side by side on double flag poles the unit had sustained an attrition rate of over 600% very high casualty rate. They were by our side in Iraq and Afghanistan and lost people over there. We are treating Russia better than Allies who will put their lives on the line for us. When in the Navy we pulled into one of Cananda's naval bases (CFB Esquimalt) by Victoria out in town I did not have to buy one beer they treated us like allies.
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Re: Tariffs from Canada?

Post by jswing » Tue Feb 25, 2025 1:21 pm

DocHollidayDDS wrote:
Mon Feb 24, 2025 3:17 pm
JDC222 wrote:
Mon Feb 24, 2025 3:13 pm
If the watch was manufactured in the USA and you bought it from a seller in Canada, you would not pay duty, only the appropriate taxes. I dont know what the duty is on a Swiss watch being imported in to the USA.
I'm also wondering how this works with various dealers. For instance, I don't believe you have to pay import duties on Sinn watches bought from WatchBuys, even though these are obviously made in Germany. Is this because WatchBuys is an officially licensed seller for Sinn in the US, and that exempts them from customs tax? I'm sure if you buy Sinn straight from a European dealer, you're going to have to pay the tax man.

I also think there are exemptions for antiques, so it's possible that some vintage watches might qualify for that, though I'm unsure where the line would be drawn in terms of age.
In the Watchbuys scenario, they pay any duties/tariffs as the importer. I assume the cost is rolled into whatever they charge us. Mark from Long Island Watch did a great video on how tariffs work. Like Watchbuys, he as the importer of goods (in his case, Chinese) has to pay any tariffs, and then passes the cost to the end user.

If anyone is really bored and has 15 minutes, here's the video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vw2PgWFkHPg
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Re: Tariffs from Canada?

Post by DocHollidayDDS » Tue Feb 25, 2025 2:05 pm

jswing wrote:
Tue Feb 25, 2025 1:21 pm
DocHollidayDDS wrote:
Mon Feb 24, 2025 3:17 pm
JDC222 wrote:
Mon Feb 24, 2025 3:13 pm
If the watch was manufactured in the USA and you bought it from a seller in Canada, you would not pay duty, only the appropriate taxes. I dont know what the duty is on a Swiss watch being imported in to the USA.
I'm also wondering how this works with various dealers. For instance, I don't believe you have to pay import duties on Sinn watches bought from WatchBuys, even though these are obviously made in Germany. Is this because WatchBuys is an officially licensed seller for Sinn in the US, and that exempts them from customs tax? I'm sure if you buy Sinn straight from a European dealer, you're going to have to pay the tax man.

I also think there are exemptions for antiques, so it's possible that some vintage watches might qualify for that, though I'm unsure where the line would be drawn in terms of age.
In the Watchbuys scenario, they pay any duties/tariffs as the importer. I assume the cost is rolled into whatever they charge us. Mark from Long Island Watch did a great video on how tariffs work. Like Watchbuys, he as an importer (in his case, Chinese) of the goods has to pay any tariffs, and then passes the cost to the end user.
Ah, that makes sense. Unlike someone like Christopher Ward, who shows US customers the customs duty fee (and other taxes) when they checkout at the website. Though I've read that if you order a watch during a visit to CW's Dallas showroom, they waive customs and shipping costs.

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Re: Tariffs from Canada?

Post by djh1201 » Sat Mar 08, 2025 10:51 am

Watch finally showed up, managed to make it through customs with no fees! Nice to have a Squale back in the collection, a little color/bling for spring/summer...

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Tariffs from Canada?

Post by hoppyjr » Sat Mar 08, 2025 11:11 am

I believe the tariff issue will apply to new items being imported, while used stuff will simply be subject to customs duty over the allowed limits.

Even some new items may escape tariffs if the manufacturer / shipper assigns a lower value to the product on their customs shipping declaration.

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Post by Captdave » Sat Mar 08, 2025 5:50 pm

I don’t know about all of you but, I just go to Canada buy what I want and come back like owned it the whole time.


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Post by hoppyjr » Sat Mar 08, 2025 6:21 pm

Captdave wrote:I don’t know about all of you but, I just go to Canada buy what I want and come back like owned it the whole time.


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Post by Captdave » Sat Mar 08, 2025 7:27 pm

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Post by Selym » Sat Mar 08, 2025 7:51 pm

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Post by JDC222 » Sat Mar 08, 2025 7:56 pm

Captdave wrote:I don’t know about all of you but, I just go to Canada buy what I want and come back like owned it the whole time.


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Captdave wrote:Those pills you gave me to give them work great.


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Post by River Rat » Sun Mar 09, 2025 12:50 am

The reason they say for the tariffs is drugs coming into the USA from Canada. But the only major drug bust I saw on our local news was one a few weeks ago and it it was two truck loads of meth and coke on the US side on the Montana boarder going across into Canada it like the U.S. is the problem. Canada cops did a good job catching them.

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