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Christopher Ward C65 GMT Pepsi

Post by gwells » Thu Mar 14, 2019 6:54 am

Just released. $1,095 on bracelet.

https://www.christopherward.com/watches ... -gmt-range

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Re: Christopher Ward C65 GMT Pepsi

Post by Ryeguy » Thu Mar 14, 2019 7:08 am

I actually kind of like that one. I still don't like the big "Christopher Ward" printed on the dial, but the overall design looks good.

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Re: Christopher Ward C65 GMT Pepsi

Post by stonehead887 » Thu Mar 14, 2019 7:18 am

Just been looking at this on the CW website. It's pretty nice actually. It's a good colour combo and the case is a wonderful slim profile. I have seen the case shape on the standard version before and it's very nice.
CW gets a tough time from some but they do make some good looking, good value watches

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Re: Christopher Ward C65 GMT Pepsi

Post by Aaron Shapiro » Thu Mar 14, 2019 7:19 am

You know...this watch looks pretty good especially for what you'll be able to buy one for. I'd particularly be interested in if it's a quick adjust GMT hand (my suspicion) or if it's a true GMT. I'd try one out, never had a C Ward before.

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Re: Christopher Ward C65 GMT Pepsi

Post by Ryeguy » Thu Mar 14, 2019 7:26 am

Just minor changes and I'd definitely hit it.
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Re: Christopher Ward C65 GMT Pepsi

Post by Nellipj » Thu Mar 14, 2019 7:34 am

That’s the best looking CW I’ve seen in years. Should be a hit.

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Re: Christopher Ward C65 GMT Pepsi

Post by Ryeguy » Thu Mar 14, 2019 7:36 am

Aaron Shapiro wrote:
Thu Mar 14, 2019 7:19 am
You know...this watch looks pretty good especially for what you'll be able to buy one for. I'd particularly be interested in if it's a quick adjust GMT hand (my suspicion) or if it's a true GMT. I'd try one out, never had a C Ward before.
Everything I've read states it is a 2893-2 clone, so I suspect it has the quick adjust GMT hand.

For multi-stop business trips I much prefer the quick jump hour hand, but for vacation type travel (extended period away from home) or for simply tracking GMT time as a constant for work reports (ie .mil) the 2893-2 works.

In the "affordables" market, I think Alpina is the only brand offering a mechanical with the jump hour complication.

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Re: Christopher Ward C65 GMT Pepsi

Post by flyskate » Thu Mar 14, 2019 8:16 am

That is a good looking watch, and CW does give good value for money.
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Re: Christopher Ward C65 GMT Pepsi

Post by outtatime » Thu Mar 14, 2019 8:21 am

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Re: Christopher Ward C65 GMT Pepsi

Post by jeckyll » Thu Mar 14, 2019 8:22 am

I like it. Not a direct copy of anything, clear and clean design.
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Re: Christopher Ward C65 GMT Pepsi

Post by gwells » Thu Mar 14, 2019 8:45 am

i think the new c65 vintage dive series may be the one, in some form, that makes me consider another christopher ward. there are a lot of things to like about the brand overall and i do think they represent good value. the last rebrand with the empty spot below the 12 just left me cold. the marker up there really seems to fix a lot of the dial balance issues and the rest of the C65 vintage is a good solid design. 41mm, 12.5mm tall, 47 lug to lug, all feel like a good size fit for me, too. plus microadjustable clasp on the bracelet.

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Re: Christopher Ward C65 GMT Pepsi

Post by AtomicTom » Thu Mar 14, 2019 9:09 am

That looks fantastic Greg, and like Bjorn pointed out it's not really a clone
of any one watch. :thumbsup: It kind of takes you back, but is still somehow doing
it's own thing !

It's something how thin the bezel is, and sleek overall it makes the watch
seem. Just is beautiful really ! Thanks a lot Greg !!!

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Re: Christopher Ward C65 GMT Pepsi

Post by mattcantwin » Thu Mar 14, 2019 9:19 am

Two variations:

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Re: Christopher Ward C65 GMT Pepsi

Post by Chocodove » Thu Mar 14, 2019 9:26 am

Nellipj wrote:That’s the best looking CW I’ve seen in years. Should be a hit.
This. I’ve never seen one that I would personally actually consider buying previously.
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Re: Christopher Ward C65 GMT Pepsi

Post by JBZ » Thu Mar 14, 2019 9:33 am

jeckyll wrote:
Thu Mar 14, 2019 8:22 am
I like it. Not a direct copy of anything, clear and clean design.
Reasonable minds can disagree about whether it's a direct copy of anything, but it is a nice design. At 41mm and with a narrow bezel, I wonder how big it will wear.
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Re: Christopher Ward C65 GMT Pepsi

Post by Nellipj » Thu Mar 14, 2019 9:46 am

mattcantwin wrote:
Thu Mar 14, 2019 9:19 am
Two variations:

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Those are cool as well. I’m liking the direction CW is going with these.

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Re: Christopher Ward C65 GMT Pepsi

Post by toxicavenger » Thu Mar 14, 2019 9:58 am

Swiss-made Sellita SW330 - a GMT movement only 4.1mm high - the C65 Trident GMT measures in at a sleek 12.05mm

I like everything about it except for the labeling. In person the labeling might not be a as noticeable. I really like the swoop down case design on it also. I hope they are not using some big ass adjustable bracelet clasp that is 6 inches long.

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Re: Christopher Ward C65 GMT Pepsi

Post by gr8sw » Thu Mar 14, 2019 9:59 am

Chocodove wrote:
Thu Mar 14, 2019 9:26 am
Nellipj wrote:That’s the best looking CW I’ve seen in years. Should be a hit.
This. I’ve never seen one that I would personally actually consider buying previously.
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Re: Christopher Ward C65 GMT Pepsi

Post by toxicavenger » Thu Mar 14, 2019 10:00 am

No screw down crown.

Technical
Diameter: 41mm
Height: 12.05mm
Weight: 71g
Calibre: Sellita SW330
Case: 316L stainless steel
Vibrations: 28,800 per hour (4 Hz)
Timing tolerance: +20/-20 seconds per day
Water resistance: 15 ATM (150 metres)
Dial colour: Blue
Lume: Old Radium SuperLumiNova®
Bracelet width: 22mm
Lug to lug: 47.1mm

Features
Swiss made
25 jewel self-winding elabore-grade mechanical movement
42 hour power reserve
Dual-time GMT function
Date calendar
Central hacking seconds
Anti-shock system
Brushed and polished marine-grade stainless steel case
High Definition "Trident" motif screw-down backplate
Push-in crown stamped with twin flag motif
Unidirectional stainless steel 24hr bezel
"Glass box" sapphire crystal
Matte finish dial
Twin flags debossed at 12 o'clock
Old radium SuperLumiNova® indexes and hands with green emission
Signature Trident counter-balance on seconds hand
Unique engraved serial number
Vintage Italian leather strap with Christopher Ward buckle
Luxurious presentation case and owner's handbook

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Re: Christopher Ward C65 GMT Pepsi

Post by toxicavenger » Thu Mar 14, 2019 10:08 am

Ryeguy wrote:
Thu Mar 14, 2019 7:36 am
Aaron Shapiro wrote:
Thu Mar 14, 2019 7:19 am
You know...this watch looks pretty good especially for what you'll be able to buy one for. I'd particularly be interested in if it's a quick adjust GMT hand (my suspicion) or if it's a true GMT. I'd try one out, never had a C Ward before.
Everything I've read states it is a 2893-2 clone, so I suspect it has the quick adjust GMT hand.

For multi-stop business trips I much prefer the quick jump hour hand, but for vacation type travel (extended period away from home) or for simply tracking GMT time as a constant for work reports (ie .mil) the 2893-2 works.

In the "affordables" market, I think Alpina is the only brand offering a mechanical with the jump hour complication.
Also known as the SW300.

Brand: Sellita
Reference: SW330-1
Base: Sellita SW300-1
Movement: Automatic
Display: Analog
Diameter: 25.60
Jewels: 25
Reserve: 42
Frequency: 28800
Date: Date
Hands: Hours, Minutes, Seconds, Additional 24 Hour Hand (adjustable)

My watchmaker has shown me a SW200 and ETA 2824-2 under the microscope when were trying to fix a keyless problem. I can say that the SW's are not finished as nicely as ETA. And the parts we tried to interchange do not fit. So I do not know if I would call any of the SW's clones.

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Re: Christopher Ward C65 GMT Pepsi

Post by JBZ » Thu Mar 14, 2019 10:28 am

toxicavenger wrote:
Thu Mar 14, 2019 10:00 am
No screw down crown.
And with no crown guards.

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Re: Christopher Ward C65 GMT Pepsi

Post by Ryeguy » Thu Mar 14, 2019 10:29 am

toxicavenger wrote:
Thu Mar 14, 2019 10:08 am
Ryeguy wrote:
Thu Mar 14, 2019 7:36 am
Aaron Shapiro wrote:
Thu Mar 14, 2019 7:19 am
You know...this watch looks pretty good especially for what you'll be able to buy one for. I'd particularly be interested in if it's a quick adjust GMT hand (my suspicion) or if it's a true GMT. I'd try one out, never had a C Ward before.
Everything I've read states it is a 2893-2 clone, so I suspect it has the quick adjust GMT hand.

For multi-stop business trips I much prefer the quick jump hour hand, but for vacation type travel (extended period away from home) or for simply tracking GMT time as a constant for work reports (ie .mil) the 2893-2 works.

In the "affordables" market, I think Alpina is the only brand offering a mechanical with the jump hour complication.
Also known as the SW300.

Brand: Sellita
Reference: SW330-1
Base: Sellita SW300-1
Movement: Automatic
Display: Analog
Diameter: 25.60
Jewels: 25
Reserve: 42
Frequency: 28800
Date: Date
Hands: Hours, Minutes, Seconds, Additional 24 Hour Hand (adjustable)

My watchmaker has shown me a SW200 and ETA 2824-2 under the microscope when were trying to fix a keyless problem. I can say that the SW's are not finished as nicely as ETA. And the parts we tried to interchange do not fit. So I do not know if I would call any of the SW's clones.
Well, maybe not true copies, but replacements for 2824-2's (SW200), 2892's (SW300) and 2893's (SW330).

The "clones" term was used by a couple other sites, so I used it here. I'll agree a true "clone" would allow parts interchangeability.

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Re: Christopher Ward C65 GMT Pepsi

Post by toxicavenger » Thu Mar 14, 2019 10:33 am

Ryeguy wrote:
Thu Mar 14, 2019 10:29 am
The "clones" term was used by a couple other sites, so I used it here. I'll agree a true "clone" would allow parts interchangeability.
Unfortunately I can tell you the Sw200 and the Sw300 are not interchangeable at all. :banghead: We ran into some issues trying to get parts for the SW movements' and tried to use the ETA versions. Not possible. :crybaby: I have seen all of the sites call them clones. I wish they were honestly. They would save me a lot of trouble. :shrug:

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Re: Christopher Ward C65 GMT Pepsi

Post by gwells » Thu Mar 14, 2019 11:22 am

toxicavenger wrote:
Thu Mar 14, 2019 9:58 am
I hope they are not using some big ass adjustable bracelet clasp that is 6 inches long.
here are pictures of the c65 bracelet clasp. looks like it's about as long as 4 links. not an exact measurement, but gives you an idea.

https://www.christopherward.com/22mm-tr ... l-bracelet

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Re: Christopher Ward C65 GMT Pepsi

Post by Ryeguy » Thu Mar 14, 2019 12:46 pm

JBZ wrote:
Thu Mar 14, 2019 10:28 am
toxicavenger wrote:
Thu Mar 14, 2019 10:00 am
No screw down crown.
And with no crown guards.

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I agree with you on this. Not having the screw down crown is one thing, but with no guards as well, I'd treat it as more or less a dress watch. I wouldn't swim with it, which is kind of my barometer for a "vacation watch", meaning a watch I'd wear pretty much 24 X 7.

Again, so close, yet so far....

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