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Re: Aquastar!!

Post by PGERRITY » Sat Oct 10, 2020 6:24 am

I love this, but just like the Doxa T-Graph reissue it’s way over priced for me. Super frustrating. And on their site the movement is listed as a “high end Swiss manufacture caliber...”. Ok so what’s the movement? And that much on a strap? I’m not crazy about the trend of $3k-$4k being the new spot for reissues. Maybe I’m wrong, I just don’t see the value.


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Re: Aquastar!!

Post by tattoo chef » Sat Oct 10, 2020 9:00 am

PGERRITY wrote:I love this, but just like the Doxa T-Graph reissue it’s way over priced for me. Super frustrating. And on their site the movement is listed as a “high end Swiss manufacture caliber...”. Ok so what’s the movement? And that much on a strap? I’m not crazy about the trend of $3k-$4k being the new spot for reissues. Maybe I’m wrong, I just don’t see the value.


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Its tricky. Set the price too low, then it will be hard to raise it later.
Set it too high, and people may not buy.

Also it lists the movement as -

“Swiss Manufacture automatic movement, custom manufactured for the Deepstar by La Joux-Perret”



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Re: Aquastar!!

Post by SoCal C4S » Sat Oct 10, 2020 10:39 am

I got the pre-buy email, looked it over, and said no when I saw the price. Might get one when they start to pop up after they start shipping, but my guess is these end up in the $1800 range on the gray market.

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Re: Aquastar!!

Post by dinexus » Sat Oct 10, 2020 5:57 pm

PGERRITY wrote:I love this, but just like the Doxa T-Graph reissue it’s way over priced for me. Super frustrating. And on their site the movement is listed as a “high end Swiss manufacture caliber...”. Ok so what’s the movement? And that much on a strap? I’m not crazy about the trend of $3k-$4k being the new spot for reissues. Maybe I’m wrong, I just don’t see the value.


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It’s a La Joux-Perret movement, apparently custom for this reference. Lotta folks are keen to see the movement tho, and I’m one of them. Pretty great choice for this watch though, I think. Neat upgrade from a Valijoux.


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Re: Aquastar!!

Post by toxicavenger » Sat Oct 10, 2020 7:27 pm

the price is crazy for a new brand/rebirth. i hope they have better service than doxa.

ugly watch. but it might rock in person.
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Re: Aquastar!!

Post by toxicavenger » Sat Oct 10, 2020 7:28 pm

dinexus wrote:
Sat Oct 10, 2020 5:57 pm
PGERRITY wrote:I love this, but just like the Doxa T-Graph reissue it’s way over priced for me. Super frustrating. And on their site the movement is listed as a “high end Swiss manufacture caliber...”. Ok so what’s the movement? And that much on a strap? I’m not crazy about the trend of $3k-$4k being the new spot for reissues. Maybe I’m wrong, I just don’t see the value.


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It’s a La Joux-Perret movement, apparently custom for this reference. Lotta folks are keen to see the movement tho, and I’m one of them. Pretty great choice for this watch though, I think. Neat upgrade from a Valijoux.


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isn't it a modded 7750? :scratch:

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Re: Aquastar!!

Post by aikiman44 » Sun Oct 11, 2020 4:38 am

“ Speaking of that self-winding movement, Aquastar turned to Swiss manufacture, LaJoux-Perret for a column wheel bi-compax chronograph motor that boasts 55 hours of power reserve, bi-directional winding and, thankfully, no ghost date position to its crown. It is a worthy movement for such an iconic re-issue, and its pusher action during chronograph use is predictably smooth and responsive. Timekeeping is impressive too. The example I wore only needed resetting once after daily wear for over two months. The movement is modestly decorated and finished with a skeletonized rotor sporting the famous star logo of Aquastar.”
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Re: Aquastar!!

Post by PGERRITY » Sun Oct 11, 2020 4:50 am

aikiman44 wrote:“ Speaking of that self-winding movement, Aquastar turned to Swiss manufacture, LaJoux-Perret for a column wheel bi-compax chronograph motor that boasts 55 hours of power reserve, bi-directional winding and, thankfully, no ghost date position to its crown. It is a worthy movement for such an iconic re-issue, and its pusher action during chronograph use is predictably smooth and responsive. Timekeeping is impressive too. The example I wore only needed resetting once after daily wear for over two months. The movement is modestly decorated and finished with a skeletonized rotor sporting the famous star logo of Aquastar.”
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Re: Aquastar!!

Post by dukerules » Sun Oct 11, 2020 4:58 am

Don't love the looks of this one, but that movement is intriguing. Hard to find column wheel chronos in this price range.

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Re: Aquastar!!

Post by demer03 » Sun Oct 11, 2020 5:08 am

toxicavenger wrote:
Sat Oct 10, 2020 7:27 pm
the price is crazy for a new brand/rebirth. i hope they have better service than doxa.

ugly watch. but it might rock in person.
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Re: Aquastar!!

Post by kempoman » Sun Oct 11, 2020 7:04 pm

It's also high time for Aquadive to launch dive chrono. BS500 is a good wearable size if they ever planned one.
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Re: Aquastar!!

Post by Ronbo710 » Wed Oct 14, 2020 2:43 pm

ImageJust got my original 1000M "Big Ben" back from servicing yesterday. They no longer make the parts for the one hour timer but it keeps time like my SD :)

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Re: Aquastar!!

Post by aikiman44 » Wed Oct 14, 2020 2:49 pm

That is one cool Aquastar.
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Re: Aquastar!!

Post by toxicavenger » Wed Oct 14, 2020 8:54 pm

Ronbo710 wrote:
Wed Oct 14, 2020 2:43 pm
ImageJust got my original 1000M "Big Ben" back from servicing yesterday. They no longer make the parts for the one hour timer but it keeps time like my SD :)
the timer on them suck and are a absolute bitch to get right. :banghead:

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Re: Aquastar!!

Post by River Rat » Thu Oct 15, 2020 2:30 am

toxicavenger wrote:
Wed Oct 14, 2020 8:54 pm
Ronbo710 wrote:
Wed Oct 14, 2020 2:43 pm
ImageJust got my original 1000M "Big Ben" back from servicing yesterday. They no longer make the parts for the one hour timer but it keeps time like my SD :)
the timer on them suck and are a absolute bitch to get right. :banghead:
Mine worked perfect all depends who works on it. Mine worked perfect after I got it serviced.

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Re: Aquastar!!

Post by DEMO » Thu Oct 15, 2020 5:52 am

Ronbo710 wrote:
Wed Oct 14, 2020 2:43 pm
ImageJust got my original 1000M "Big Ben" back from servicing yesterday. They no longer make the parts for the one hour timer but it keeps time like my SD :)
If they ever remake the Benthos I would be in in a heartbeat.
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Re: Aquastar!!

Post by tmw » Thu Oct 15, 2020 8:01 am

Why do I keep thinking of ordering the aquastar?

I am sure the new benthos will be coming. The challenge is the movement, but sinn basically did similar with the EZM1 and others that yse the centerhand chrono. The new benthos is what I really want - as didnt want to deal with the vintage.

Its only a matter of time, and will be expensive, which will be no suprise.
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Re: Aquastar!!

Post by toxicavenger » Thu Oct 15, 2020 8:08 am

River Rat wrote:
Thu Oct 15, 2020 2:30 am
toxicavenger wrote:
Wed Oct 14, 2020 8:54 pm
Ronbo710 wrote:
Wed Oct 14, 2020 2:43 pm
ImageJust got my original 1000M "Big Ben" back from servicing yesterday. They no longer make the parts for the one hour timer but it keeps time like my SD :)
the timer on them suck and are a absolute bitch to get right. :banghead:
Mine worked perfect all depends who works on it. Mine worked perfect after I got it serviced.
but when there is a problem with them you can't get parts to fix them.

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Re: Aquastar!!

Post by River Rat » Thu Oct 15, 2020 10:33 am

Some times like the case of the Glycine airman and the hacking wire a watchmaker weak in there skill screws up the parts and no replacement parts. The timer in these are a little different than a chronograph but I bet what happens with the Airman happens to the Benthos. Why I send certain vintage watches for service to different watchmakers due to there skill and knowledge to certain brands. Like the Airman to Nevada Watch repair some to Jack and some military chronographs and vintage issued watches to Classicwatch since he specializes in them. Each watchmaker good for certain watches. Like Nevada watch repair had the hacking wire parts made for replacement parts he brought my Airman hacking wire back to life. Some times you learn the hard way like my Hanhart 417 I sent it for service to a guy who specializes in vintage Heuer chronographs it worked fine for a while then one of the pushers got stuck should of sent it to classicwatch now it will cost me another 700 buck for classicwatch to reservice it when I feel like spending the money. It's all about the right watchmaker for the right job. The watchmaker knew his Heuer's but Hanhart's were out of his wheelhouse funny mine was the last Hanhart he would touch knew another member of another forum who ask the same watchmaker to service his 417 he would not touch it but classicwatch did plus classicwatch specializes in sales and service of issued watches.

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Re: Aquastar!!

Post by demer03 » Thu Oct 15, 2020 10:52 am

tmw wrote:
Thu Oct 15, 2020 8:01 am
Why do I keep thinking of ordering the aquastar?

I am sure the new benthos will be coming. The challenge is the movement, but sinn basically did similar with the EZM1 and others that yse the centerhand chrono. The new benthos is what I really want - as didnt want to deal with the vintage.

Its only a matter of time, and will be expensive, which will be no suprise.
Me too. I'll shed the Certina and likely jump on a black one.
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Re: Aquastar!!

Post by DEMO » Fri Oct 16, 2020 11:42 am

The Aquastar website says first batch of Gray, Blue and Black dials are sold out. Next batch will be ready in January.

They seem popular. :shrug:
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Re: Aquastar!!

Post by toxicavenger » Sat Oct 17, 2020 11:30 am

DEMO wrote:
Fri Oct 16, 2020 11:42 am
The Aquastar website says first batch of Gray, Blue and Black dials are sold out. Next batch will be ready in January.

They seem popular. :shrug:
a popular blog is pushing them. they can sell anything :mrgreen:

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Re: Aquastar!!

Post by toxicavenger » Sat Oct 17, 2020 11:31 am

River Rat wrote:
Thu Oct 15, 2020 10:33 am
Some times like the case of the Glycine airman and the hacking wire a watchmaker weak in there skill screws up the parts and no replacement parts. The timer in these are a little different than a chronograph but I bet what happens with the Airman happens to the Benthos. Why I send certain vintage watches for service to different watchmakers due to there skill and knowledge to certain brands. Like the Airman to Nevada Watch repair some to Jack and some military chronographs and vintage issued watches to Classicwatch since he specializes in them. Each watchmaker good for certain watches. Like Nevada watch repair had the hacking wire parts made for replacement parts he brought my Airman hacking wire back to life. Some times you learn the hard way like my Hanhart 417 I sent it for service to a guy who specializes in vintage Heuer chronographs it worked fine for a while then one of the pushers got stuck should of sent it to classicwatch now it will cost me another 700 buck for classicwatch to reservice it when I feel like spending the money. It's all about the right watchmaker for the right job. The watchmaker knew his Heuer's but Hanhart's were out of his wheelhouse funny mine was the last Hanhart he would touch knew another member of another forum who ask the same watchmaker to service his 417 he would not touch it but classicwatch did plus classicwatch specializes in sales and service of issued watches.
so like I said that equate's to being a pain in the ass. :mrgreen:

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Re: Aquastar!!

Post by tmw » Sat Oct 17, 2020 11:54 am

toxicavenger wrote:
Sat Oct 17, 2020 11:31 am
River Rat wrote:
Thu Oct 15, 2020 10:33 am
Some times like the case of the Glycine airman and the hacking wire a watchmaker weak in there skill screws up the parts and no replacement parts. The timer in these are a little different than a chronograph but I bet what happens with the Airman happens to the Benthos. Why I send certain vintage watches for service to different watchmakers due to there skill and knowledge to certain brands. Like the Airman to Nevada Watch repair some to Jack and some military chronographs and vintage issued watches to Classicwatch since he specializes in them. Each watchmaker good for certain watches. Like Nevada watch repair had the hacking wire parts made for replacement parts he brought my Airman hacking wire back to life. Some times you learn the hard way like my Hanhart 417 I sent it for service to a guy who specializes in vintage Heuer chronographs it worked fine for a while then one of the pushers got stuck should of sent it to classicwatch now it will cost me another 700 buck for classicwatch to reservice it when I feel like spending the money. It's all about the right watchmaker for the right job. The watchmaker knew his Heuer's but Hanhart's were out of his wheelhouse funny mine was the last Hanhart he would touch knew another member of another forum who ask the same watchmaker to service his 417 he would not touch it but classicwatch did plus classicwatch specializes in sales and service of issued watches.
so like I said that equate's to being a pain in the ass. :mrgreen:
Terry. Exactly.

Why I never bought a benthos in the past. Vintage can be a royal pima.

My extent of vintage is 6105s/6309s.
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Floating down canal
It doesn't use numbers or moving hands
It always just says now
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Breathe In, Breathe Out, Move On

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Re: Aquastar!!

Post by River Rat » Mon Oct 19, 2020 5:39 am

tmw wrote:
Sat Oct 17, 2020 11:54 am
toxicavenger wrote:
Sat Oct 17, 2020 11:31 am
River Rat wrote:
Thu Oct 15, 2020 10:33 am
Some times like the case of the Glycine airman and the hacking wire a watchmaker weak in there skill screws up the parts and no replacement parts. The timer in these are a little different than a chronograph but I bet what happens with the Airman happens to the Benthos. Why I send certain vintage watches for service to different watchmakers due to there skill and knowledge to certain brands. Like the Airman to Nevada Watch repair some to Jack and some military chronographs and vintage issued watches to Classicwatch since he specializes in them. Each watchmaker good for certain watches. Like Nevada watch repair had the hacking wire parts made for replacement parts he brought my Airman hacking wire back to life. Some times you learn the hard way like my Hanhart 417 I sent it for service to a guy who specializes in vintage Heuer chronographs it worked fine for a while then one of the pushers got stuck should of sent it to classicwatch now it will cost me another 700 buck for classicwatch to reservice it when I feel like spending the money. It's all about the right watchmaker for the right job. The watchmaker knew his Heuer's but Hanhart's were out of his wheelhouse funny mine was the last Hanhart he would touch knew another member of another forum who ask the same watchmaker to service his 417 he would not touch it but classicwatch did plus classicwatch specializes in sales and service of issued watches.
so like I said that equate's to being a pain in the ass. :mrgreen:
Terry. Exactly.

Why I never bought a benthos in the past. Vintage can be a royal pima.

My extent of vintage is 6105s/6309s.
You been a collector about as long as me ever think of the opportunity's you missed on a lot of vintage watches. You being a 6105 collector you seen the price jump the times of getting a 6105 for 350.00 is long over. Think I got my Benthos for 500 a Tudor Snowflake for 2000 a Benrus type II class A issued diver for a 1000 a Seiko 6105 for 350 it did need a little work they all double or more in price do you feel you missed the boat on some that were once cheaper and now out of your price range just because you were scared and did not want to do the work. Even with the amount I got into that 417 even with the 700 service I know coming up I am still a 1000 ahead in what I got in it if I sold it at a NAWCC reginal were people sell there vintage watches some one wanted to buy it off my wrist . Did not buy them as a investment bought them because I liked them. But do buy less these days due to the price increase on these unless I get a deal lucky now if I find a few a year that not selling at a crazy price glad I was into vintage watches before others thought the same way and kind of screwed it up for me I guess cost and demand only so many vintage watches. Did good because I bought them at the right time I remember when a lot of members here went crazy over the vintage Tudor subs a lot of snowflakes when they were cheap but most here are flippers you flip them then miss it years later and want to buy another but now with prices crazy you cant justify buying one since it double in price or more what you remember them going for years ago the same way I think if I sold one it would be gone for ever.

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