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I’m digging the new black alpinist...

Post by sierra11b » Fri Jan 31, 2020 7:04 pm

...even with the cyclops. Something about it... a quirky 114270 meets new SD. The price is a bit much, though.

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Wonder if the 6R35 is any good?

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Post by toxicavenger » Fri Jan 31, 2020 8:06 pm

price is a little whack

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Post by four20 » Sat Feb 01, 2020 5:34 am

I like it and as I become more and more reliant upon "readers," I become less and less concerned about the cyclops lol

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Post by Joeprez » Sat Feb 01, 2020 5:49 am

I like this one a lot

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Post by sierra11b » Sat Feb 01, 2020 7:10 am

toxicavenger wrote:
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price is a little whack
No kidding.

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Post by Chocodove » Sat Feb 01, 2020 7:12 am

20% off on eBay!
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Post by Joeprez » Sat Feb 01, 2020 8:13 am

New around $820 or a little less. I don't think around $600 is a bad price considering the movement.


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Post by Selym » Sat Feb 01, 2020 9:05 am

I'm not a fan of the second crown. Otherwise, it's cool.

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Post by toxicavenger » Sat Feb 01, 2020 10:17 am

Seppia wrote:
Sat Feb 01, 2020 7:20 am
It’s $630 apparently. Doesn’t seem so out of whack, how much are the MM200s?

Look every nice
I personally thought the mm200's seemed like it a better watch finish wise to me. Wasn't the green alpinist around $400 new? :scratch:

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Post by sierra11b » Sat Feb 01, 2020 10:49 am

toxicavenger wrote:
Sat Feb 01, 2020 10:17 am
Seppia wrote:
Sat Feb 01, 2020 7:20 am
It’s $630 apparently. Doesn’t seem so out of whack, how much are the MM200s?

Look every nice
I personally thought the mm200's seemed like it a better watch finish wise to me. Wasn't the green alpinist around $400 new? :scratch:
I remember the sarb017 being $380 when I bought one. Or was it $360? I forget... That’s what makes this hard to swallow.

I think the mm200 is overpriced as well. It’s like we forgot the $400 Sumo was the highest priced SS 6r15 just a few years ago.

I don’t think an extra 20hr PR is worth another $300

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Post by Joeprez » Sat Feb 01, 2020 11:00 am

Agree that MM200 is probably better constructed and finished. Still that Alpinist looks good even if I don't like cathedral hands that much.


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Post by 59yukon01 » Sat Feb 01, 2020 11:26 am

Remove the wart and the watch looks good. However if the ONLY improvement from the 6r15 to the 6r35 is the extra 20 hour PR, then hell no it's not worth the extra $300.

Just 20 more hours of inconsistent time keeping as far as I'm concerned.

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Post by Chocodove » Sat Feb 01, 2020 1:28 pm

I don’t know about these, but I am super impressed with the MM200. Significant step up from the Turdles IMO.
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Post by sierra11b » Sat Feb 01, 2020 2:30 pm

Seppia wrote:
Sat Feb 01, 2020 12:04 pm
I mean halios seaforths were going for what, $1000?
And this is way overpriced?
Give me a break
I tend to do this when I go on a gun buying spree. Watches as a whole begin to look awfully expensive as the perceived value isn’t nearly what you get out of a firearm.

The new white and green alpinists seem to come with that same crap leather strap.

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Post by JBZ » Sat Feb 01, 2020 5:17 pm

I think it looks great. I wish the cream dial version came with a bracelet option.
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Post by sierra11b » Sat Feb 01, 2020 6:23 pm

JBZ wrote:
Sat Feb 01, 2020 5:17 pm
I think it looks great. I wish the cream dial version came with a bracelet option.

Any word on strap quality? It looks rigid and plasticky just like the old sarb017

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Post by JBZ » Sat Feb 01, 2020 6:28 pm

sierra11b wrote:
Sat Feb 01, 2020 6:23 pm
JBZ wrote:
Sat Feb 01, 2020 5:17 pm
I think it looks great. I wish the cream dial version came with a bracelet option.

Any word on strap quality? It looks rigid and plasticky just like the old sarb017
I read a review that claimed the newer ones were better, but I can’t remember where. I know they come with deployant clasps.
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Post by sierra11b » Sat Feb 01, 2020 6:38 pm

JBZ wrote:
Sat Feb 01, 2020 6:28 pm
sierra11b wrote:
Sat Feb 01, 2020 6:23 pm
JBZ wrote:
Sat Feb 01, 2020 5:17 pm
I think it looks great. I wish the cream dial version came with a bracelet option.

Any word on strap quality? It looks rigid and plasticky just like the old sarb017
I read a review that claimed the newer ones were better, but I can’t remember where. I know they come with deployant clasps.
That’s good. I have a sarb017 deployant on a heuerville for my 6139-6005. It’s a quality single deployant assuming it’s the same. For awhile the deployant clasps we’re slim pickings and commanded a premium.

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Post by CGSshorty » Mon Feb 03, 2020 3:34 pm

sierra11b wrote:
JBZ wrote:
Sat Feb 01, 2020 5:17 pm
I think it looks great. I wish the cream dial version came with a bracelet option.

Any word on strap quality? It looks rigid and plasticky just like the old sarb017
The Alpinist works great on custom straps. I wouldn’t even worry about what strap it comes on.
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Post by sierra11b » Mon Jun 22, 2020 8:48 pm

I caved and black dial incoming. Let’s see if it sticks.

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Post by Torrid » Tue Jun 23, 2020 2:29 am

59yukon01 wrote:
Sat Feb 01, 2020 11:26 am
Remove the wart and the watch looks good. However if the ONLY improvement from the 6r15 to the 6r35 is the extra 20 hour PR, then hell no it's not worth the extra $300.

Just 20 more hours of inconsistent time keeping as far as I'm concerned.
All Seikos are that way too. My NAFT is very accurate after I regulated it and it is still that way after selling and reaquiring it, but let the reserve run down and it’s all over the place.

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Post by sierra11b » Wed Jun 24, 2020 8:36 pm

I owned the SARB017 for all of two hours. Was not impressed with the color.

They nailed it with this one and the bracelet completes the package quite nice! Size is perfect on my 7.5" wrist. It's the perfect Exp1 alternative IMHO.

Cyclops is quite small. I actually don't mind it at all as it doesn't scream "look at my Rolex" as much as it is practical.

Time is currently on the second so fingers crossed it stays that way or even goes a bit fast as I hate a slow watch. :pray:

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Post by Americandave » Sun Jun 28, 2020 7:06 am

Seppia wrote:
Tue Jun 23, 2020 2:46 am
The problem with seiko is that they so far have been happy to raise their prices by a lot, without delivering the improvements that would be expected at that price level.

Inconsistent timekeeping on an iso rated diver at $130 (skx009)? I’m good with that.

Same with a well executed watch for $350 (old alpinist)? Still fine

Unregulated movement in a $1000 MM300? Ok

But the moment the prices get multiplied by 2.5x, I do expect the movements to perform better.

This. I went nuts for a SLA033 for a while but doing the shopping, kept thinking about that unregulated 8L35....like for the money these guys want a more easily serviced Swiss option seems available in every style.

That said, I had two MM300s back when they were priced fair and I love my arnie and my SRP777.

Has anyone ever heard from Seiko why they don’t regulate in the more expensive models? Surely the question has been asked.

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Post by HapaHapa » Sun Jun 28, 2020 9:34 am

I didn’t appreciate how much less noticeable the smaller cyclops is. That’s a great improvement, especially given that I’ve developed this new habit of peeking at small things under my glasses (old guy eyes?). I’d like to see an Alpinist with a silver dial similar to that Rolex. I guess I could settle for white.
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