Hattori NH36?
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Hattori NH36?
Is it really made by Seiko or is it just a replacement movement made by another company?
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Re: Hattori NH36?
My understanding is that it is just an unbranded 4R36. I’ve been known to be wrong, however.
Re: Hattori NH36?
After doing a search, it appears SII may be rebranding itself as Hattori
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Re: Hattori NH36?
I can not find a definite answer that it is Seiko
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Re: Hattori NH36?
I thought I saw a Hattori/ SII listing somewhere on a NH35 movt
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I had another look. Both Jules Borel and Esslinger are selling Hattori NH35 and Esslinger says Japan assy. If I remember correctly, SII had shops in Japan, China and Malaysia. Maybe JP assembly gets a Hattori label..?
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Re: Hattori NH36?
No idea. Weird that it would not be cut and dry on whether or not Seiko actually makes them.
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Hattori is the original name of the founder of Seiko. I have seen that some places like Cousins UK for example, have their part number named from what seems to be an Hattori catalog or something like that:
https://www.cousinsuk.com/category/filt ... ment-parts
I can only assume that some parts of the company still uses that name for their catalogs or at least some of the parts.
https://www.cousinsuk.com/category/filt ... ment-parts
I can only assume that some parts of the company still uses that name for their catalogs or at least some of the parts.
Re: Hattori NH36?
Not discounting at all what you're saying Carlo, but I just assumed everyone knew that lolCarloDWC wrote:Hattori is the original name of the founder of Seiko. I have seen that some places like Cousins UK for example, have their part number named from what seems to be an Hattori catalog or something like that:
https://www.cousinsuk.com/category/filt ... ment-parts
I can only assume that some parts of the company still uses that name for their catalogs or at least some of the parts.
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Re: Hattori NH36?
I guess part of my confusion is I can not order it directly from Seiko. I can only find it online at aftermarket parts companies. Some say Seiko / Hattori and some say Hattori. When I order them from my supplier they do not say Seiko at all on them. It makes it seem like they are maybe made by another company as a replacement, not exactly by Seiko.four20 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 12, 2020 11:47 amNot discounting at all what you're saying Carlo, but I just assumed everyone knew that lolCarloDWC wrote:Hattori is the original name of the founder of Seiko. I have seen that some places like Cousins UK for example, have their part number named from what seems to be an Hattori catalog or something like that:
https://www.cousinsuk.com/category/filt ... ment-parts
I can only assume that some parts of the company still uses that name for their catalogs or at least some of the parts.
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Does that make sense?
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Are you on good terms with Jake? At one time he had contacts inside SII in HK. He might be able to shed some lighttoxicavenger wrote:I guess part of my confusion is I can not order it directly from Seiko. I can only find it online at aftermarket parts companies. Some say Seiko / Hattori and some say Hattori. When I order them from my supplier they do not say Seiko at all on them. It makes it seem like they are maybe made by another company as a replacement, not exactly by Seiko.four20 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 12, 2020 11:47 amNot discounting at all what you're saying Carlo, but I just assumed everyone knew that lolCarloDWC wrote:Hattori is the original name of the founder of Seiko. I have seen that some places like Cousins UK for example, have their part number named from what seems to be an Hattori catalog or something like that:
https://www.cousinsuk.com/category/filt ... ment-parts
I can only assume that some parts of the company still uses that name for their catalogs or at least some of the parts.
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Does that make sense?
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No not really. I was with Noah. I guess it isn't really a big deal. Just weird that a movement so many blogs tend to label as a Seiko product I can not buy directly from Seiko.four20 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 12, 2020 3:04 pmAre you on good terms with Jake? At one time he had contacts inside SII in HK. He might be able to shed some lighttoxicavenger wrote:I guess part of my confusion is I can not order it directly from Seiko. I can only find it online at aftermarket parts companies. Some say Seiko / Hattori and some say Hattori. When I order them from my supplier they do not say Seiko at all on them. It makes it seem like they are maybe made by another company as a replacement, not exactly by Seiko.four20 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 12, 2020 11:47 amNot discounting at all what you're saying Carlo, but I just assumed everyone knew that lolCarloDWC wrote:Hattori is the original name of the founder of Seiko. I have seen that some places like Cousins UK for example, have their part number named from what seems to be an Hattori catalog or something like that:
https://www.cousinsuk.com/category/filt ... ment-parts
I can only assume that some parts of the company still uses that name for their catalogs or at least some of the parts.
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Does that make sense?
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Yes Terry, I think the problem is that Seiko as a company has certain set up lines to sell parts to. I never bought directly myself but definitely used other companies, or people. Maybe it's a matter to get set up as a distributor or something.toxicavenger wrote: ↑Sun Jan 12, 2020 2:35 pmI guess part of my confusion is I can not order it directly from Seiko. I can only find it online at aftermarket parts companies. Some say Seiko / Hattori and some say Hattori. When I order them from my supplier they do not say Seiko at all on them. It makes it seem like they are maybe made by another company as a replacement, not exactly by Seiko.four20 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 12, 2020 11:47 amNot discounting at all what you're saying Carlo, but I just assumed everyone knew that lolCarloDWC wrote:Hattori is the original name of the founder of Seiko. I have seen that some places like Cousins UK for example, have their part number named from what seems to be an Hattori catalog or something like that:
https://www.cousinsuk.com/category/filt ... ment-parts
I can only assume that some parts of the company still uses that name for their catalogs or at least some of the parts.
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Does that make sense?
I have seen that the following can get at least some parts although I don't know how or where from, I bought from them and I received actual Seiko parts in proper packaging.
Cousins UK
Part Plaza
Duarte
Rob at Monster watch EU
OttoFrei
Esslinger
Chrono24
They don't all have all the parts but they do have some. It depends on what you need one of them might be an option.
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Thanks for the info. The people you mention about also have a Seiko parts account like my watchmaker does. So I can get some Seiko parts from Seiko. I was just wondering why that the Hattori movement is such a mystery. Seiko does not seem claim ownership of it and I can not order one from Seiko. Getting one is not an issue, lack of info was.CarloDWC wrote: ↑Mon Jan 13, 2020 9:11 amYes Terry, I think the problem is that Seiko as a company has certain set up lines to sell parts to. I never bought directly myself but definitely used other companies, or people. Maybe it's a matter to get set up as a distributor or something.toxicavenger wrote: ↑Sun Jan 12, 2020 2:35 pmI guess part of my confusion is I can not order it directly from Seiko. I can only find it online at aftermarket parts companies. Some say Seiko / Hattori and some say Hattori. When I order them from my supplier they do not say Seiko at all on them. It makes it seem like they are maybe made by another company as a replacement, not exactly by Seiko.four20 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 12, 2020 11:47 amNot discounting at all what you're saying Carlo, but I just assumed everyone knew that lolCarloDWC wrote:Hattori is the original name of the founder of Seiko. I have seen that some places like Cousins UK for example, have their part number named from what seems to be an Hattori catalog or something like that:
https://www.cousinsuk.com/category/filt ... ment-parts
I can only assume that some parts of the company still uses that name for their catalogs or at least some of the parts.
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Does that make sense?
I have seen that the following can get at least some parts although I don't know how or where from, I bought from them and I received actual Seiko parts in proper packaging.
Cousins UK
Part Plaza
Duarte
Rob at Monster watch EU
OttoFrei
Esslinger
Chrono24
They don't all have all the parts but they do have some. It depends on what you need one of them might be an option.
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Re: Hattori NH36?
I don't know but I think that maybe there are two sub-divisions, one for Seiko branded watches and parts for repair and one for Seiko parts used for other brands. the NH36 is after all a movement NOT using in Seiko watches. Seiko watches use Seiko Branded movement, even if they are made in the same physical factory.toxicavenger wrote: ↑Mon Jan 13, 2020 6:16 pmThanks for the info. The people you mention about also have a Seiko parts account like my watchmaker does. So I can get some Seiko parts from Seiko. I was just wondering why that the Hattori movement is such a mystery. Seiko does not seem claim ownership of it and I can not order one from Seiko. Getting one is not an issue, lack of info was.CarloDWC wrote: ↑Mon Jan 13, 2020 9:11 amYes Terry, I think the problem is that Seiko as a company has certain set up lines to sell parts to. I never bought directly myself but definitely used other companies, or people. Maybe it's a matter to get set up as a distributor or something.toxicavenger wrote: ↑Sun Jan 12, 2020 2:35 pmI guess part of my confusion is I can not order it directly from Seiko. I can only find it online at aftermarket parts companies. Some say Seiko / Hattori and some say Hattori. When I order them from my supplier they do not say Seiko at all on them. It makes it seem like they are maybe made by another company as a replacement, not exactly by Seiko.four20 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 12, 2020 11:47 amNot discounting at all what you're saying Carlo, but I just assumed everyone knew that lolCarloDWC wrote:Hattori is the original name of the founder of Seiko. I have seen that some places like Cousins UK for example, have their part number named from what seems to be an Hattori catalog or something like that:
https://www.cousinsuk.com/category/filt ... ment-parts
I can only assume that some parts of the company still uses that name for their catalogs or at least some of the parts.
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Does that make sense?
I have seen that the following can get at least some parts although I don't know how or where from, I bought from them and I received actual Seiko parts in proper packaging.
Cousins UK
Part Plaza
Duarte
Rob at Monster watch EU
OttoFrei
Esslinger
Chrono24
They don't all have all the parts but they do have some. It depends on what you need one of them might be an option.
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Re: Hattori NH36?
The NE15 also doesn't have any Seiko labeling.CarloDWC wrote: ↑Tue Jan 14, 2020 8:33 amI don't know but I think that maybe there are two sub-divisions, one for Seiko branded watches and parts for repair and one for Seiko parts used for other brands. the NH36 is after all a movement NOT using in Seiko watches. Seiko watches use Seiko Branded movement, even if they are made in the same physical factory.
I agree there might be two different divisions, the lack info seems weird though. And there is no way I can tell someone that a movement is from Seiko without actually knowing if the info is correct.
Thanks for the feedback
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Re: Hattori NH36?
Hey Terry, here is a bit more data on the branding and names for these movements.toxicavenger wrote: ↑Tue Jan 14, 2020 9:36 amThe NE15 also doesn't have any Seiko labeling.CarloDWC wrote: ↑Tue Jan 14, 2020 8:33 amI don't know but I think that maybe there are two sub-divisions, one for Seiko branded watches and parts for repair and one for Seiko parts used for other brands. the NH36 is after all a movement NOT using in Seiko watches. Seiko watches use Seiko Branded movement, even if they are made in the same physical factory.
I agree there might be two different divisions, the lack info seems weird though. And there is no way I can tell someone that a movement is from Seiko without actually knowing if the info is correct.
Thanks for the feedback
https://calibercorner.com/seiko-caliber-nh35a/
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Thanks for the info.CarloDWC wrote: ↑Wed Jan 15, 2020 8:30 amHey Terry, here is a bit more data on the branding and names for these movements.toxicavenger wrote: ↑Tue Jan 14, 2020 9:36 amThe NE15 also doesn't have any Seiko labeling.CarloDWC wrote: ↑Tue Jan 14, 2020 8:33 amI don't know but I think that maybe there are two sub-divisions, one for Seiko branded watches and parts for repair and one for Seiko parts used for other brands. the NH36 is after all a movement NOT using in Seiko watches. Seiko watches use Seiko Branded movement, even if they are made in the same physical factory.
I agree there might be two different divisions, the lack info seems weird though. And there is no way I can tell someone that a movement is from Seiko without actually knowing if the info is correct.
Thanks for the feedback
https://calibercorner.com/seiko-caliber-nh35a/
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