Rolex & Tudor Basel 2019

[Henryj]

by Watchonista

those end links are shit.

Looks to me like the “drilled lugs” on the watch case are holes for the hinge pins for the funky bezel lock. If you run a NATO through where the leather strap actually ends, you’ll still have one steel link on each side of the case and I bet it’ll sit weird on a nato.

[JBZ]

Steel/Gold Tudor Chronograph? These ones are so undesirable you can snag them for $1,500 when they come up for sale (which isn't all that often as Tudor probably sold 20 of these when they were new and the rest are most likely sitting in a dusty corner in the back of a watch store beneath old phone books). Not sure why they think the new version is going to sell any better this time around.

I'm just curious if the bezel insert from the new one will fit the old one. Wouldn't mind a black one with gilt writing to replace the solid 18K one on mine.

If you like gold, Rolex does it as well as anyone. Be it vintage or modern, Tudor does not. Their gold always underwhelms me.

And even the Rolex TT watches don't do better than the stainless versions on the second hand market. With certain exceptions (like a Rootbeer GMT), you can buy a pre-owned TT Daytona, Submariner, or GMT for the same as or less than the price of a SS version.

[rockmastermike]

Rose gold > Yellow gold

[Joeprez]

I sent this too most of you via Instagram, but just in case... here you will see Ben Clymer from Hodinkee briefly talking about the current state of Rolex (plus added comedy by Hodonkee):

https://www.instagram.com/p/BvRS89dl6qi/

[Ryeguy]

by Watchonista

those end links are shit.

Looks to me like the “drilled lugs” on the watch case are holes for the hinge pins for the funky bezel lock. If you run a NATO through where the leather strap actually ends, you’ll still have one steel link on each side of the case and I bet it’ll sit weird on a nato.

I agree. I'm wondering, assuming those holes in the lugs are the pivot points for those odd bezel-locking end links, if they are remove-able? Maybe Tudor has those end links pivoting on standard spring bars, so you could remove the entire assembly?

That said, without those weird end links, all that would remain is an SKX007 homage with less visually interesting case machining. That Tudor crown guard looks like it was shaped using a band saw.

[JBZ]

by Watchonista

those end links are shit.

Looks to me like the “drilled lugs” on the watch case are holes for the hinge pins for the funky bezel lock. If you run a NATO through where the leather strap actually ends, you’ll still have one steel link on each side of the case and I bet it’ll sit weird on a nato.

I agree. I'm wondering, assuming those holes in the lugs are the pivot points for those odd bezel-locking end links, if they are remove-able? Maybe Tudor has those end links pivoting on standard spring bars, so you could remove the entire assembly?

That said, without those weird end links, all that would remain is an SKX007 homage with less visually interesting case machining. That Tudor crown guard looks like it was shaped using a band saw.

Here's a picture from a Fratello article that shows the caseback. It looks to me like there are shorter spring bars that attach the "second joint" of the endlinks to the first. So my guess is that the "second joint" can be removed, but the "first joint" of the endlinks is fixed to the watch. The pivot bars allow the "first joint" to pivot, but not be removed. But that's only a guess.

[shaneotool]

by Watchonista

those end links are shit.

Looks to me like the “drilled lugs” on the watch case are holes for the hinge pins for the funky bezel lock. If you run a NATO through where the leather strap actually ends, you’ll still have one steel link on each side of the case and I bet it’ll sit weird on a nato.

I agree. I'm wondering, assuming those holes in the lugs are the pivot points for those odd bezel-locking end links, if they are remove-able? Maybe Tudor has those end links pivoting on standard spring bars, so you could remove the entire assembly?

That said, without those weird end links, all that would remain is an SKX007 homage with less visually interesting case machining. That Tudor crown guard looks like it was shaped using a band saw.

Here's a picture from a Fratello article that shows the caseback. It looks to me like there are shorter spring bars that attach the "second joint" of the endlinks to the first. So my guess is that the "second joint" can be removed, but the "first joint" of the endlinks is fixed to the watch. The pivot bars allow the "first joint" to pivot, but not be removed. But that's only a guess.

The whole thing is just a god awful mess.

It's unbelievable there was no one at Tudor to pull the plug on this POS before it was finished.

[CGSshorty]

I’m not great at math, but I see 6 possible points of failure on each strap side. Most watches have 2, not including the buckle/clasp. This is progress?

[matt.wu]

I’m not great at math, but I see 6 possible points of failure on each strap side. Most watches have 2, not including the buckle/clasp. This is progress?

I don't think they were going for progress; they were going for "unique".

Which they accomplished.

And it's terrible.

[Ryeguy]

by Watchonista

those end links are shit.

Looks to me like the “drilled lugs” on the watch case are holes for the hinge pins for the funky bezel lock. If you run a NATO through where the leather strap actually ends, you’ll still have one steel link on each side of the case and I bet it’ll sit weird on a nato.

I agree. I'm wondering, assuming those holes in the lugs are the pivot points for those odd bezel-locking end links, if they are remove-able? Maybe Tudor has those end links pivoting on standard spring bars, so you could remove the entire assembly?

That said, without those weird end links, all that would remain is an SKX007 homage with less visually interesting case machining. That Tudor crown guard looks like it was shaped using a band saw.

Here's a picture from a Fratello article that shows the caseback. It looks to me like there are shorter spring bars that attach the "second joint" of the endlinks to the first. So my guess is that the "second joint" can be removed, but the "first joint" of the endlinks is fixed to the watch. The pivot bars allow the "first joint" to pivot, but not be removed. But that's only a guess.

Very odd. It appears from this photo that the underside of those odd end links is hollowed out, so the pivot points are not full-width spring bars, but instead some type of quarter width (or captured) pivots.

If you mess one of those up, at best it looks to be a custom part from Tudor, at worst it looks like you are buying an entire end link assembly.

To Chris' point, this does not exactly seem like progress to me.

[Ryeguy]

Actually, the more I look at it, the more I think those end links are not remove-able (or at least the watch is unwearable without them being attached).

tudor.jpg

I think the circled protrusions are actually a part of the case and the red line I highlighted is the pivot rod.

[JBZ]

I don't even understand the point of the second joint of the endlinks (other than I guess it resembles the original prototype that may or may not have been a hoax). I would think they could have just done a North Flag style strap or bracelet and attached it directly to the first joint. OTOH, the watch would still be terrible, so I guess it doesn't matter.

[toxicavenger]

hahaha I just stole this to repost it. Cool?

[Panerai7]

Bitter Sweet all of this.
In the end I've come to a conclusion that Pelagos is the Tudor for me

[james80]

Bitter Sweet all of this.
In the end I've come to a conclusion that Pelagos is the Tudor for me

Agreed

[nweash]

hahaha I just stole this to repost it. Cool?

But of course. I just cropped the watch on the original meme.

[aztecknight]

i kinda like it

[jlswatch]

Not sure what the deal is here so many easy directions to go. Tudor and Rolex just dropped nothing good. Rolex is all bling and precious metals. Tudor dropped that wrist cuff silliness. Rolex has my all time favorite design with the submariner and my all time most hated watch feature the cyclops. A lot of cool stuff in the watch world, curious if this is the year we will look back on as the downturn In Rolex.

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[hidden by leaves]

I've admittedly not seen all the Baselworld content this year but I have this abiding feeling that this is a jumped the shark year overall. Anyone else?


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[JP Chestnut]

I've admittedly not seen all the Baselworld content this year but I have this abiding feeling that this is a jumped the shark year overall. Anyone else?


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I hope so. I’m so sick of the instagram fueled insanity.

[james80]

Another winner from Rolex

[jlswatch]

Another winner from Rolex

Such a small group of people buy that, I find it repugnant.

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[kempoman]

Is this a diver watch or a field watch?

[logan2z]

Is this a diver watch or a field watch?

It's an ugly watch.

[kempoman]

Is this a diver watch or a field watch?

It's an ugly watch.

for some reasons the crown guard symmetry reminds me of a 6105...