Cheap Nautilus and Royal Oak Knock-Offs
- logan2z
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Cheap Nautilus and Royal Oak Knock-Offs
BS Nautilus indeed, A flagrant rip-off of another company's IP. I'm not sure what is the bigger joke - that the makers of these watches are seemingly getting away with this or that this 'reviewer' spent 20+ minutes seriously discussing these watches in detail.
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I'm bummed that the cases look pretty good, at least from the videos. Even the bracelets look good. No wonder it's getting harder to spot counterfeits these days.
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They have no shame.
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I’d never wear one but I guess it’s not much different than the 100 Sub knockoffs out there.
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I might test drive one for a bit before liquidating my entire collection for that one exit watch. Would suck if you flipped everything and didn’t end up liking how the watch wore over and extended period.
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At least try something worthy, like a Pelton.
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I can’t wear or own a fake anything. I’d prefer a real Seiko to a fake Patek.
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^^^ yesSeppia wrote:I don't know.
The originals and these terrible ripoffs exist in words so far apart I'm not sure there is a real damage done to AP or Patek.
What makes me furious is the sharkey shitty copies of seiko tunas: a $300 copy of a $800 watch. Seiko is losing real sales to those pieces of crap.
But these?
Can you picture Patek's target consumer saying to himself
"hmmmm, I could buy this $40000 nautilus but I'll buy this $200 Chinese ripoff with a name that sounds like Homer Simpson's favorite outdoor activity instead. Sounds like a plan!"?
I can't.
They are completely tasteless POS for tasteless people, but I don't think they do any actual damage
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well if Bagelsport isnt your vibe than how bout the Astromaster?
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NOOB factory continues to get better and better with their products. Unfortunately.
Some of these watches are so close to the OEM that the only way to tell is to take the case back off and inspect the movement. Scary.
Some of these watches are so close to the OEM that the only way to tell is to take the case back off and inspect the movement. Scary.
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Your implants are real, not some cheap Chinese ripoff?
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I don't think the issue is about buyer's cross-shopping AP and a $70 knock-off and eating into AP's profits. To my mind at least, the issue is the flagrant use of someone else's intellectual property in order to make a buck - without ever needing to invest a dime in design, R&D or patent protection.Seppia wrote: ↑Tue Oct 23, 2018 12:01 pmI don't know.
The originals and these terrible ripoffs exist in words so far apart I'm not sure there is a real damage done to AP or Patek.
What makes me furious is the sharkey shitty copies of seiko tunas: a $300 copy of a $800 watch. Seiko is losing real sales to those pieces of crap.
But these?
Can you picture Patek's target consumer saying to himself
"hmmmm, I could buy this $40000 nautilus but I'll buy this $200 Chinese ripoff with a name that sounds like Homer Simpson's favorite outdoor activity instead. Sounds like a plan!"?
I can't.
They are completely tasteless POS for tasteless people, but I don't think they do any actual damage
As others have also pointed out, it should scare the bejesus out of watch collectors that these companies can come up with such convincing looking fakes of luxury watches. These guys (or the people they sell to) are a solid case back and a logo away from duping unsuspecting watch collectors into paying big bucks for garbage.
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Exactly how I feel. I intensely dislike any homage or blatant copy.hoppyjr wrote:I can’t wear or own a fake anything. I’d prefer a real Seiko to a fake Patek.
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Exactly this. I assume the reason AP, Patek, Rolex, et al. don't go after all of these homage companies is that it just isn't worth their time and resources, and differing IP laws may make it a pointless exercise. Plus, the market segment that the luxury companies are going after is completely different from the one that the homage companies are targeting.logan2z wrote: ↑Tue Oct 23, 2018 7:14 pmI don't think the issue is about buyer's cross-shopping AP and a $70 knock-off and eating into AP's profits. To my mind at least, the issue is the flagrant use of someone else's intellectual property in order to make a buck - without ever needing to invest a dime in design, R&D or patent protection.Seppia wrote: ↑Tue Oct 23, 2018 12:01 pmI don't know.
The originals and these terrible ripoffs exist in words so far apart I'm not sure there is a real damage done to AP or Patek.
What makes me furious is the sharkey shitty copies of seiko tunas: a $300 copy of a $800 watch. Seiko is losing real sales to those pieces of crap.
But these?
Can you picture Patek's target consumer saying to himself
"hmmmm, I could buy this $40000 nautilus but I'll buy this $200 Chinese ripoff with a name that sounds like Homer Simpson's favorite outdoor activity instead. Sounds like a plan!"?
I can't.
They are completely tasteless POS for tasteless people, but I don't think they do any actual damage
As others have also pointed out, it should scare the bejesus out of watch collectors that these companies can come up with such convincing looking fakes of luxury watches. These guys (or the people they sell to) are a solid case back and a logo away from duping unsuspecting watch collectors into paying big bucks for garbage.
But I will bet that whoever supplied the cases, bracelets, dials, and movements for these homages also supplies them for out and out fakes. At least from the video, the cases and bracelets look very good. The dials and movements less so, but I see the potential for people getting ripped off, especially people who don't spend every waking hour on the watch forums.
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+1000logan2z wrote: ↑Tue Oct 23, 2018 7:14 pmI don't think the issue is about buyer's cross-shopping AP and a $70 knock-off and eating into AP's profits. To my mind at least, the issue is the flagrant use of someone else's intellectual property in order to make a buck - without ever needing to invest a dime in design, R&D or patent protection.Seppia wrote: ↑Tue Oct 23, 2018 12:01 pmI don't know.
The originals and these terrible ripoffs exist in words so far apart I'm not sure there is a real damage done to AP or Patek.
What makes me furious is the sharkey shitty copies of seiko tunas: a $300 copy of a $800 watch. Seiko is losing real sales to those pieces of crap.
But these?
Can you picture Patek's target consumer saying to himself
"hmmmm, I could buy this $40000 nautilus but I'll buy this $200 Chinese ripoff with a name that sounds like Homer Simpson's favorite outdoor activity instead. Sounds like a plan!"?
I can't.
They are completely tasteless POS for tasteless people, but I don't think they do any actual damage
As others have also pointed out, it should scare the bejesus out of watch collectors that these companies can come up with such convincing looking fakes of luxury watches. These guys (or the people they sell to) are a solid case back and a logo away from duping unsuspecting watch collectors into paying big bucks for garbage.
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These are all natural. I believe you knew that. ;-)
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A Chinese plastic surgeon inserted them.
It's a beautiful world! Gerald.
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Silicone balance wheel?Axelay2003 wrote: ↑Wed Oct 24, 2018 7:24 pmA Chinese plastic surgeon inserted them.
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He's mostly unbalanced, so probably not
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Agreed with this a 100%. Some people defend sterile dial fakes and refuse to call them fakes. It doesn't matter that every dollar you spend on them goes to the same factories making fakes. How many times can I say fakes, lolJBZ wrote: ↑Wed Oct 24, 2018 6:14 amExactly this. I assume the reason AP, Patek, Rolex, et al. don't go after all of these homage companies is that it just isn't worth their time and resources, and differing IP laws may make it a pointless exercise. Plus, the market segment that the luxury companies are going after is completely different from the one that the homage companies are targeting.logan2z wrote: ↑Tue Oct 23, 2018 7:14 pmI don't think the issue is about buyer's cross-shopping AP and a $70 knock-off and eating into AP's profits. To my mind at least, the issue is the flagrant use of someone else's intellectual property in order to make a buck - without ever needing to invest a dime in design, R&D or patent protection.Seppia wrote: ↑Tue Oct 23, 2018 12:01 pmI don't know.
The originals and these terrible ripoffs exist in words so far apart I'm not sure there is a real damage done to AP or Patek.
What makes me furious is the sharkey shitty copies of seiko tunas: a $300 copy of a $800 watch. Seiko is losing real sales to those pieces of crap.
But these?
Can you picture Patek's target consumer saying to himself
"hmmmm, I could buy this $40000 nautilus but I'll buy this $200 Chinese ripoff with a name that sounds like Homer Simpson's favorite outdoor activity instead. Sounds like a plan!"?
I can't.
They are completely tasteless POS for tasteless people, but I don't think they do any actual damage
As others have also pointed out, it should scare the bejesus out of watch collectors that these companies can come up with such convincing looking fakes of luxury watches. These guys (or the people they sell to) are a solid case back and a logo away from duping unsuspecting watch collectors into paying big bucks for garbage.
But I will bet that whoever supplied the cases, bracelets, dials, and movements for these homages also supplies them for out and out fakes. At least from the video, the cases and bracelets look very good. The dials and movements less so, but I see the potential for people getting ripped off, especially people who don't spend every waking hour on the watch forums.