Seaforth preorders tomorrow 1/18

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Re: Seaforth preorders tomorrow 1/18

Post by tmw » Mon Jan 29, 2018 3:21 pm

dosei wrote:
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Tried for a couple of friends, and the configurations they wanted must have been desirable. They were gone in a minute. Literally a minute.

I got myself a couple of fixed bezels. Blue dial and grey dial.
You were able to check out with a couple today, or the fake sale on the 19th? That's some fast finger action if you were able to check out even 1 today.
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Re: Seaforth preorders tomorrow 1/18

Post by gwells » Mon Jan 29, 2018 3:44 pm

i completely blanked on it. thought about it around 4, then got buried head-down into work and just now remembered. no bananarama for me.

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Re: Seaforth preorders tomorrow 1/18

Post by Nellipj » Mon Jan 29, 2018 3:52 pm

The butt-hurt is strong over on WUS :doh:

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Post by Jeep99dad » Mon Jan 29, 2018 4:06 pm

manitoujoe wrote:I went Yellow and 12HR bezel. I'll back Jason anytime.
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Re: Seaforth preorders tomorrow 1/18

Post by Jeep99dad » Mon Jan 29, 2018 4:09 pm

Had a work meeting so missed out. C’est la vie
Would have grabbed a yellow or Abyss blue.

I guess I’ll get a Monta Triumph now
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Re: Seaforth preorders tomorrow 1/18

Post by gwells » Mon Jan 29, 2018 4:12 pm

i'm wondering how many of the butthurts who say they're done with halios will either buy on secondary or try again when the opportunity presents itself. also, how many of them were actually just speculating and planning on reselling.

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Post by matt.wu » Mon Jan 29, 2018 4:15 pm

gwells wrote:i'm wondering how many of the butthurts who say they're done with halios will either buy on secondary or try again when the opportunity presents itself. also, how many of them were actually just speculating and planning on reselling.
Lots for resale for sure. You'll probably see some of the undelivered orders listed today.

I'm planning on listing one or both of my original Seaforths since I got ones with date. Never knew he was gonna release ones with ETA and date, or I wouldn't have ordered the original ones!
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Re: Seaforth preorders tomorrow 1/18

Post by pbj204 » Mon Jan 29, 2018 4:28 pm

I feel like going on Watchnet and listing my yellow dial for $1,999 just to mess with people.

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Re: Seaforth preorders tomorrow 1/18

Post by manitoujoe » Mon Jan 29, 2018 4:35 pm

I got a yellow dial with a 12-HR bezel. :)
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Re: Seaforth preorders tomorrow 1/18

Post by 59yukon01 » Mon Jan 29, 2018 4:48 pm

Perfectly happy with Seiko, no worries here.

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Re: Seaforth preorders tomorrow 1/18

Post by gwells » Mon Jan 29, 2018 4:59 pm

matt.wu wrote:
Mon Jan 29, 2018 4:15 pm
gwells wrote:i'm wondering how many of the butthurts who say they're done with halios will either buy on secondary or try again when the opportunity presents itself. also, how many of them were actually just speculating and planning on reselling.
Lots for resale for sure. You'll probably see some of the undelivered orders listed today.

I'm planning on listing one or both of my original Seaforths since I got ones with date. Never knew he was gonna release ones with ETA and date, or I wouldn't have ordered the original ones!
if i had remembered, and then actually got one, i would have resold one of them. probably the blue from the first batch. not because i wanted the date or even the ETA. prefer the no date, but now that i have my blue 556i, i wouldn't mind swapping the seaforth to a different color.

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Re: Seaforth preorders tomorrow 1/18

Post by giosdad » Mon Jan 29, 2018 5:15 pm

If anybody is looking to move a Gen 2. Let me know.

I am interested in pastel, yellow or gray. Preferably in that order.

Congrats to those that snagged one.
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Re: Seaforth preorders tomorrow 1/18

Post by Danny_T » Mon Jan 29, 2018 6:22 pm

Darn I totally forgot about this today. Oh well no pastel fixed bezel for me.

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Re: Seaforth preorders tomorrow 1/18

Post by toxicavenger » Mon Jan 29, 2018 6:51 pm

damn I want a bahama yellow fixie!!!!

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Re: Seaforth preorders tomorrow 1/18

Post by zepp21 » Mon Jan 29, 2018 7:43 pm

matt.wu wrote:Tried for a couple of friends, and the configurations they wanted must have been desirable. They were gone in a minute. Literally a minute.

I got myself a couple of fixed bezels. Blue dial and grey dial.
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Re: Seaforth preorders tomorrow 1/18

Post by Danny_T » Mon Jan 29, 2018 9:01 pm

Well let's hope for a ver3 pre-order.

Seems like that may be likely for round 3 based on IG
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Re: Seaforth preorders tomorrow 1/18

Post by hoppyjr » Mon Jan 29, 2018 11:11 pm

As much I’d love to own one I couldn’t deal with the ordering mess.

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Re: Seaforth preorders tomorrow 1/18

Post by Rob.B » Mon Jan 29, 2018 11:12 pm

I had mine in my cart putting details in and it disappeared quicker than Kaiser Soze... Never to be seen again... Ah well maybe next time... The hurt in the butt is strong over on WUS and IG...lol
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Re: Seaforth preorders tomorrow 1/18

Post by Seppia » Tue Jan 30, 2018 2:20 am

Stupid people are stupid, but the ordering process is a flaming pile of manure

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Re: Seaforth preorders tomorrow 1/18

Post by jimyritz » Tue Jan 30, 2018 4:26 am

Kind of sucks but what can you do-- was interested in yellow dial but missed out...Why do a third series? Why not build to order....oh well...

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Re: Seaforth preorders tomorrow 1/18

Post by ericf4 » Tue Jan 30, 2018 4:39 am

They seem nice enough but I would never waste my time dealing with their shit ordering process to get one. Seriously get a decent ecommerce platform and sell to people in the manner that they want to buy.

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Re: Seaforth preorders tomorrow 1/18

Post by tattoo chef » Tue Jan 30, 2018 6:18 am

jimyritz wrote:Kind of sucks but what can you do-- was interested in yellow dial but missed out...Why do a third series? Why not build to order....oh well...
I agree. Why not just have a constant ongoing production of them.

But maybe if that was the case, they would not be in such high demand.

I think Jason makes a good watch, but too be honest with all the options out there these days, not sure why so many go gaga over them.


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Re: Seaforth preorders tomorrow 1/18

Post by gwells » Tue Jan 30, 2018 6:43 am

at least some of it is the hype of hard-to-get. the first round of seaforths didn't disappear in 3 minutes. but i think they were sold out the first day. second round was immediate. and this past round was a mess.

i've said it before. jason is at a crossroads with his brand and needs to make some hard decisions about where he wants to go. doing preorder or build-to-order sounds good, but if he stuck with similar volumes, the preorders would just sell out in minutes and people would be just as pissy. if he ups his volume 3-5x, will he be able to support it as a solo owner? that's 3x-5x the QC, 3x-5x the aftercare support, a lot to ask of one guy. especially one who generally tries to do right by his customers (i've had a couple of very good support experiences with him).

so if he expands his volume, how does it affect those facets of his business? if he hires people, will that change the quality?

if he expands the volume on individual models, does that mean new models less often? will that make him enjoy his business less?

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there may not be a solution that makes both him and his expanding customer base happy.

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Re: Seaforth preorders tomorrow 1/18

Post by Ryeguy » Tue Jan 30, 2018 6:46 am

I'll not participate in this mess. Too much drama. Cool watch, but not cool enough for me to stress over ordering.

I do feel for Jason though. I assume he has to pre-purchase the watches from his manufacturer overseas. If we assume he's paying $150 per watch from the manufacturer and he orders 500 watches, he's writing a $75,000 check up front. If his up-front cost are more, he could be writing a check closer to $100,000. That's a pretty good size check.

He could do pre-orders with a deposit I guess, but those can get messy and if the watch is delayed, people bitch.

I guess, if I were in his shoes, I'd rather have people complain about not being able to get one through an open purchase process than bitch about pre-order delays, etc.

The biggest gamble in his business, I'd think, is measuring market demand for the product against his fiscal ability to order. His first two stock order gambles seem to have paid off. Would a third order pay off equally, or would he potentially be sitting on some unsold stock?

I think there is a old entertainer's adage that says "always leave them wanting more". Probably good advice.

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Re: Seaforth preorders tomorrow 1/18

Post by Chocodove » Tue Jan 30, 2018 7:04 am

Ryeguy wrote:
Tue Jan 30, 2018 6:46 am


I guess, if I were in his shoes, I'd rather have people complain about not being able to get one through an open purchase process than bitch about pre-order delays, etc.

I agree with this. It's the fairest process and relatively cut and dry, you are either fortunate and order one in time or you don't.

If you want to see real tomfoolery with supply and the market, just look at what Rolex is doing these days.
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