Bernhardt font change!
Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2018 8:57 pm
Finally he has done it. 
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Re: Bernhardt font change!
Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2018 9:23 pm
Better! Much better.
Re: Bernhardt font change!
Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2018 10:02 pm
Now to convince Christopher Ward.
Re: Bernhardt font change!
Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2018 4:31 am
So much better.Axelay2003 wrote:Better! Much better.
Re: Bernhardt font change!
Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2018 6:05 am
ThisCGSshorty wrote:So much better.Axelay2003 wrote:Better! Much better.
Re: Bernhardt font change!
Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2018 6:07 am
Re: Bernhardt font change!
Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2018 9:04 am
Nice 
Way over due
Good guy nice watches.
Way over due
Good guy nice watches.
Re: Bernhardt font change!
Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2018 9:06 am
This may be a dumb question, but is there a technical reason the date on this (and other) dials must be a 4:22 and not squarely centered with the 4:00 marker?
If it were centered and the date window was chrome lined, it would visually take the place of the missing applied indice. Being a few minutes south of centered actually draws my eye to it and highlights the lack of symmetry.
My SWAG is the date window must be located precisely there due to the date change gear engagement. There are likely only certain places on a dial that the date will change and be centered within the window. You would have to completely modify the date wheel gear train to make a window centered on 4 work.
Just curious.
If it were centered and the date window was chrome lined, it would visually take the place of the missing applied indice. Being a few minutes south of centered actually draws my eye to it and highlights the lack of symmetry.
My SWAG is the date window must be located precisely there due to the date change gear engagement. There are likely only certain places on a dial that the date will change and be centered within the window. You would have to completely modify the date wheel gear train to make a window centered on 4 work.
Just curious.
Re: Bernhardt font change!
Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2018 12:31 pm
I’m not a WIS so I can’t answer the technical question but agree 100% about symmetryRyeguy wrote: ↑Fri Sep 14, 2018 9:06 amThis may be a dumb question, but is there a technical reason the date on this (and other) dials must be a 4:22 and not squarely centered with the 4:00 marker?
If it were centered and the date window was chrome lined, it would visually take the place of the missing applied indice. Being a few minutes south of centered actually draws my eye to it and highlights the lack of symmetry.
My SWAG is the date window must be located precisely there due to the date change gear engagement. There are likely only certain places on a dial that the date will change and be centered within the window. You would have to completely modify the date wheel gear train to make a window centered on 4 work.
Just curious.
Re: Bernhardt font change!
Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2018 1:00 pm
The more I think about it, I think it must have to do with the date wheel location, date wheel gear train, and dial diameter.deepcdvr wrote: ↑Fri Sep 14, 2018 12:31 pmI’m not a WIS so I can’t answer the technical question but agree 100% about symmetryRyeguy wrote: ↑Fri Sep 14, 2018 9:06 amThis may be a dumb question, but is there a technical reason the date on this (and other) dials must be a 4:22 and not squarely centered with the 4:00 marker?
If it were centered and the date window was chrome lined, it would visually take the place of the missing applied indice. Being a few minutes south of centered actually draws my eye to it and highlights the lack of symmetry.
My SWAG is the date window must be located precisely there due to the date change gear engagement. There are likely only certain places on a dial that the date will change and be centered within the window. You would have to completely modify the date wheel gear train to make a window centered on 4 work.
Just curious.
Looking at this ETA movement and imagining it under the dial of the Bernhardt, I'm guessing that to get the date centered in the window, the window had to be at that location (or you would have to have custom date wheels printed with special spacing.
I'll leave the watch designing to the experts, but with this style dial (which I like), I think the date works best at 6. Something like this:
Re: Bernhardt font change!
Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2018 1:35 pm
This date window will not work at 4
You will be between dates without custom printing and spacing of numbers.
This date location will work with a standard date wheel
Re: Bernhardt font change!
Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2018 9:58 pm
^^^ Yup, that's it. If they were serious about the design symmetry, they could get a date wheel printed that would align at 4:00, but I'm guessing that is more than most brands want to invest.
Anywhere near 4:00 just looks wrong to me (poor symmetry), but I do like a 6:00 placement.
Anywhere near 4:00 just looks wrong to me (poor symmetry), but I do like a 6:00 placement.
Re: Bernhardt font change!
Posted: Sat Sep 15, 2018 4:28 am
What is interesting (at least for me) is Berhardt takes the time to modify the ETA2836-2 to function as a GMT (modify the day mechanism into a GMT hand), but doesn't take the time to address the date location.
Maybe they like the lack of symmetry or it just bothers me more than most?
Maybe they like the lack of symmetry or it just bothers me more than most?
Re: Bernhardt font change!
Posted: Sat Sep 15, 2018 9:16 am
If there must be a date window it belongs at 3 or 6.
Re: Bernhardt font change!
Posted: Sat Sep 15, 2018 4:52 pm
I bet most of their clientele don't care. The wis crowd is not huge and not the biggest buyers imo.Ryeguy wrote: ↑Sat Sep 15, 2018 4:28 amWhat is interesting (at least for me) is Berhardt takes the time to modify the ETA2836-2 to function as a GMT (modify the day mechanism into a GMT hand), but doesn't take the time to address the date location.
Maybe they like the lack of symmetry or it just bothers me more than most?
Re: Bernhardt font change!
Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2018 8:31 am
Re: Bernhardt font change!
Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2018 10:41 am
Hey cool, hadn't seen this Terry ! 
It's funny how just changing the font, or even
a logo on a watch can transform things. It's seems so simple, but it really changes the
whole personality.
Actually didn't have a problem with the old way they wrote Bernhardt. Maybe every
once in a while they will create a special, or limited edition with the original font
in the future. Now you have the older Bernhardts out there will the old writing,
and then the new versions on the way. Neat stuff !
Appreciate the news sir. Thanks once again !!!
It's funny how just changing the font, or evena logo on a watch can transform things. It's seems so simple, but it really changes the
whole personality.
Actually didn't have a problem with the old way they wrote Bernhardt. Maybe every
once in a while they will create a special, or limited edition with the original font
in the future. Now you have the older Bernhardts out there will the old writing,
and then the new versions on the way. Neat stuff !
Appreciate the news sir. Thanks once again !!!
Re: Bernhardt font change!
Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2018 4:39 pm
You got it TomAtomicTom wrote: ↑Mon Sep 17, 2018 10:41 amHey cool, hadn't seen this Terry !
a logo on a watch can transform things. It's seems so simple, but it really changes the
whole personality.
Actually didn't have a problem with the old way they wrote Bernhardt. Maybe every
once in a while they will create a special, or limited edition with the original font
in the future. Now you have the older Bernhardts out there will the old writing,
and then the new versions on the way. Neat stuff !
Appreciate the news sir. Thanks once again !!!
Re: Bernhardt font change!
Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2018 4:51 pm
Not appealing either way to me
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Re: Bernhardt font change!
Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2018 7:54 pm
Damnit Terry now I may have to buy that Corsair..... Blue or black? Leaning black
Re: Bernhardt font change!
Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2018 8:05 pm
Re: Bernhardt font change!
Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2018 9:47 am
Re: Bernhardt font change!
Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2018 10:01 am
sweet!
Re: Bernhardt font change!
Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2018 11:25 am
Re: Bernhardt font change!
Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2018 9:57 am
Thanks Terry- I love it so far and $364 shipped for this is a no brainer. The Miyota 9015 movement is running +7 after day 1. We will see how it settles in but totally acceptable to me at this price point.