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Bernhardt font change!

Post by toxicavenger » Thu Sep 13, 2018 8:57 pm

Finally he has done it. :mrgreen:
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Post by Axelay2003 » Thu Sep 13, 2018 9:23 pm

Better! Much better.
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Post by hoppyjr » Thu Sep 13, 2018 10:02 pm

Now to convince Christopher Ward.

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Post by CGSshorty » Fri Sep 14, 2018 4:31 am

Axelay2003 wrote:Better! Much better.
So much better.
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Post by unixshrk » Fri Sep 14, 2018 6:05 am

CGSshorty wrote:
Axelay2003 wrote:Better! Much better.
So much better.
This

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Post by logan2z » Fri Sep 14, 2018 6:07 am

unixshrk wrote:
Fri Sep 14, 2018 6:05 am
CGSshorty wrote:
Axelay2003 wrote:Better! Much better.
So much better.
This
Time for a better data plan.

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Post by Jeep99dad » Fri Sep 14, 2018 9:04 am

Nice
Way over due
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Re: Bernhardt font change!

Post by Ryeguy » Fri Sep 14, 2018 9:06 am

This may be a dumb question, but is there a technical reason the date on this (and other) dials must be a 4:22 and not squarely centered with the 4:00 marker?

If it were centered and the date window was chrome lined, it would visually take the place of the missing applied indice. Being a few minutes south of centered actually draws my eye to it and highlights the lack of symmetry.

My SWAG is the date window must be located precisely there due to the date change gear engagement. There are likely only certain places on a dial that the date will change and be centered within the window. You would have to completely modify the date wheel gear train to make a window centered on 4 work.

Just curious.

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Post by deepcdvr » Fri Sep 14, 2018 12:31 pm

Ryeguy wrote:
Fri Sep 14, 2018 9:06 am
This may be a dumb question, but is there a technical reason the date on this (and other) dials must be a 4:22 and not squarely centered with the 4:00 marker?

If it were centered and the date window was chrome lined, it would visually take the place of the missing applied indice. Being a few minutes south of centered actually draws my eye to it and highlights the lack of symmetry.

My SWAG is the date window must be located precisely there due to the date change gear engagement. There are likely only certain places on a dial that the date will change and be centered within the window. You would have to completely modify the date wheel gear train to make a window centered on 4 work.

Just curious.
I’m not a WIS so I can’t answer the technical question but agree 100% about symmetry :thumbsup:
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Re: Bernhardt font change!

Post by Ryeguy » Fri Sep 14, 2018 1:00 pm

deepcdvr wrote:
Fri Sep 14, 2018 12:31 pm
Ryeguy wrote:
Fri Sep 14, 2018 9:06 am
This may be a dumb question, but is there a technical reason the date on this (and other) dials must be a 4:22 and not squarely centered with the 4:00 marker?

If it were centered and the date window was chrome lined, it would visually take the place of the missing applied indice. Being a few minutes south of centered actually draws my eye to it and highlights the lack of symmetry.

My SWAG is the date window must be located precisely there due to the date change gear engagement. There are likely only certain places on a dial that the date will change and be centered within the window. You would have to completely modify the date wheel gear train to make a window centered on 4 work.

Just curious.
I’m not a WIS so I can’t answer the technical question but agree 100% about symmetry :thumbsup:
The more I think about it, I think it must have to do with the date wheel location, date wheel gear train, and dial diameter.

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Looking at this ETA movement and imagining it under the dial of the Bernhardt, I'm guessing that to get the date centered in the window, the window had to be at that location (or you would have to have custom date wheels printed with special spacing.

I'll leave the watch designing to the experts, but with this style dial (which I like), I think the date works best at 6. Something like this:
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Post by Ryeguy » Fri Sep 14, 2018 1:35 pm

ImageA better visual for what I'm thinking is (and please excuse my crap graphics - just trying to think about why this 4:20 date window seems to be so prominent):

This date window will not work at 4
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You will be between dates without custom printing and spacing of numbers.

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This date location will work with a standard date wheel

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Post by gonzomantis » Fri Sep 14, 2018 9:58 pm

^^^ Yup, that's it. If they were serious about the design symmetry, they could get a date wheel printed that would align at 4:00, but I'm guessing that is more than most brands want to invest.

Anywhere near 4:00 just looks wrong to me (poor symmetry), but I do like a 6:00 placement.

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Post by Ryeguy » Sat Sep 15, 2018 4:28 am

What is interesting (at least for me) is Berhardt takes the time to modify the ETA2836-2 to function as a GMT (modify the day mechanism into a GMT hand), but doesn't take the time to address the date location.

Maybe they like the lack of symmetry or it just bothers me more than most?

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Post by hoppyjr » Sat Sep 15, 2018 9:16 am

If there must be a date window it belongs at 3 or 6.


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Post by toxicavenger » Sat Sep 15, 2018 4:52 pm

Ryeguy wrote:
Sat Sep 15, 2018 4:28 am
What is interesting (at least for me) is Berhardt takes the time to modify the ETA2836-2 to function as a GMT (modify the day mechanism into a GMT hand), but doesn't take the time to address the date location.

Maybe they like the lack of symmetry or it just bothers me more than most?
I bet most of their clientele don't care. The wis crowd is not huge and not the biggest buyers imo.

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Post by unsub073 » Mon Sep 17, 2018 8:31 am

hoppyjr wrote:
Thu Sep 13, 2018 10:02 pm
Now to convince Christopher Ward.
I don't think that one is possible.

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Post by AtomicTom » Mon Sep 17, 2018 10:41 am

Hey cool, hadn't seen this Terry ! :thumbsup: :) It's funny how just changing the font, or even
a logo on a watch can transform things. It's seems so simple, but it really changes the
whole personality.

Actually didn't have a problem with the old way they wrote Bernhardt. Maybe every
once in a while they will create a special, or limited edition with the original font
in the future. Now you have the older Bernhardts out there will the old writing,
and then the new versions on the way. Neat stuff !

Appreciate the news sir. Thanks once again !!!

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Post by toxicavenger » Mon Sep 17, 2018 4:39 pm

AtomicTom wrote:
Mon Sep 17, 2018 10:41 am
Hey cool, hadn't seen this Terry ! :thumbsup: :) It's funny how just changing the font, or even
a logo on a watch can transform things. It's seems so simple, but it really changes the
whole personality.

Actually didn't have a problem with the old way they wrote Bernhardt. Maybe every
once in a while they will create a special, or limited edition with the original font
in the future. Now you have the older Bernhardts out there will the old writing,
and then the new versions on the way. Neat stuff !

Appreciate the news sir. Thanks once again !!!
You got it Tom :thumbsup:

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Post by ericf4 » Mon Sep 17, 2018 4:51 pm

Not appealing either way to me

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Post by tyd450 » Mon Sep 24, 2018 7:54 pm

toxicavenger wrote:
Thu Sep 13, 2018 8:57 pm
Finally he has done it. :mrgreen:
Damnit Terry now I may have to buy that Corsair..... Blue or black? Leaning black

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Post by deepcdvr » Thu Sep 27, 2018 10:01 am

sweet!
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Post by toxicavenger » Thu Sep 27, 2018 11:25 am

tyd450 wrote:
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Looking good Tyler, congrats on it! :thumbsup:

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Post by tyd450 » Fri Sep 28, 2018 9:57 am

toxicavenger wrote:
Thu Sep 27, 2018 11:25 am
tyd450 wrote:
Thu Sep 27, 2018 9:47 am
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Looking good Tyler, congrats on it! :thumbsup:
Thanks Terry- I love it so far and $364 shipped for this is a no brainer. The Miyota 9015 movement is running +7 after day 1. We will see how it settles in but totally acceptable to me at this price point.

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