Scurfa putting out some killer pieces soon!

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Scurfa putting out some killer pieces soon!

Post by toxicavenger » Mon Mar 12, 2018 3:43 pm

http://scurfawatches.com/diverone2018nd513rd
New Diver One ND513RD (Black Dial)
Specification
Case size 40 mm by 47.7 by 14mm, 20mm strap size
316L Surgical grade Stainless Steel
7mm screw down crown with D1 logo
120 Click unidirectional bezel
Aluminium bezel insert with Luminous pearl
Matt black dial with brushed steel hands
Super Luminova Old Style Radium on the dial, hands and bezel pearl (glows green)
Domed sapphire crystal with blue Anti Reflective coating on the underside
Ronda 513SM Non Date Quartz movement
300m ~ 1000ft
Drilled through lugs with strong single shoulder spring bars 20mm X 2mm X 1.2mm
Scurfa Watches brown rubber strap based on the Italian leather straps seen on a lot of vintage diving watches today
12 Months warranty

His pvd model http://scurfawatches.com/diverone2017blackpvd
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Post by Bradystraps » Mon Mar 12, 2018 4:49 pm

Digging these for sure. Great job, Paul! :thumbsup:
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Post by bedlam » Mon Mar 12, 2018 5:12 pm

Did he run out of money and couldn't afford to index the whole bezel??

Micros FFS

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Post by tattoo chef » Mon Mar 12, 2018 5:58 pm

bedlam wrote:Did he run out of money and couldn't afford to index the whole bezel??

Micros FFS
I can’t say for sure but since he is real Diver, and his guys do actually wear these, maybe they feel it’s not needed.

On top of that, how many you think that buy these get any deeper than their bathtub with them?


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Post by Bradystraps » Mon Mar 12, 2018 6:10 pm

tattoo chef wrote:
Mon Mar 12, 2018 5:58 pm
bedlam wrote:Did he run out of money and couldn't afford to index the whole bezel??

Micros FFS
I can’t say for sure but since he is real Diver, and his guys do actually wear these, maybe they feel it’s not needed.

On top of that, how many you think that buy these get any deeper than their bathtub with them?


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Post by HapaHapa » Mon Mar 12, 2018 6:35 pm

Woah now bathtub is really deep. I rarely go past kitchen sink depths.
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Post by hoppyjr » Mon Mar 12, 2018 7:30 pm

They aight, but “killer” might be a bit wishful.

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Post by bedlam » Mon Mar 12, 2018 8:36 pm

tattoo chef wrote:
Mon Mar 12, 2018 5:58 pm
bedlam wrote:Did he run out of money and couldn't afford to index the whole bezel??

Micros FFS
I can’t say for sure but since he is real Diver, and his guys do actually wear these, maybe they feel it’s not needed.

On top of that, how many you think that buy these get any deeper than their bathtub with them?
Wasn't the Scurfa guy a commercial diver? They do things very differently and their surface team tracks their time, so he wouldn't have much experience using a dive watch as a timing tool.

There is also an ISO that describes what is necessary for it to be a dive watch. Why ignore the existing standard in the area?

Indexing the bezel takes nothing from those who don't dive and is a boon to those who use the watch as a dive tool so, again, why not index it? Honestly, I think he is just copying older designs without really thinking about the issues in play.

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Post by manitoujoe » Mon Mar 12, 2018 8:48 pm

I dig it. I hear good stuff about the guy too. Works for me.


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Post by watches503 » Mon Mar 12, 2018 11:58 pm

You had me going with that title. Thought it was gonna me an interesting new diver.


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Post by watches503 » Tue Mar 13, 2018 12:01 am

bedlam wrote:
tattoo chef wrote:
Mon Mar 12, 2018 5:58 pm
bedlam wrote:Did he run out of money and couldn't afford to index the whole bezel??

Micros FFS
I can’t say for sure but since he is real Diver, and his guys do actually wear these, maybe they feel it’s not needed.

On top of that, how many you think that buy these get any deeper than their bathtub with them?
Wasn't the Scurfa guy a commercial diver? They do things very differently and their surface team tracks their time, so he wouldn't have much experience using a dive watch as a timing tool.

There is also an ISO that describes what is necessary for it to be a dive watch. Why ignore the existing standard in the area?

Indexing the bezel takes nothing from those who don't dive and is a boon to those who use the watch as a dive tool so, again, why not index it? Honestly, I think he is just copying older designs without really thinking about the issues in play.
I definitely see no “issues in play”.


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Post by bedlam » Tue Mar 13, 2018 12:56 am

watches503 wrote:
Tue Mar 13, 2018 12:01 am
bedlam wrote:
tattoo chef wrote:
Mon Mar 12, 2018 5:58 pm
bedlam wrote:Did he run out of money and couldn't afford to index the whole bezel??

Micros FFS
I can’t say for sure but since he is real Diver, and his guys do actually wear these, maybe they feel it’s not needed.

On top of that, how many you think that buy these get any deeper than their bathtub with them?
Wasn't the Scurfa guy a commercial diver? They do things very differently and their surface team tracks their time, so he wouldn't have much experience using a dive watch as a timing tool.

There is also an ISO that describes what is necessary for it to be a dive watch. Why ignore the existing standard in the area?

Indexing the bezel takes nothing from those who don't dive and is a boon to those who use the watch as a dive tool so, again, why not index it? Honestly, I think he is just copying older designs without really thinking about the issues in play.
I definitely see no “issues in play”.
As in, it doesn't affect you so don't care?

Fair enough :bird:

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Post by dnslater » Tue Mar 13, 2018 3:56 am

bedlam wrote:
Mon Mar 12, 2018 8:36 pm

Indexing the bezel takes nothing from those who don't dive and is a boon to those who use the watch as a dive tool so, again, why not index it? Honestly, I think he is just copying older designs without really thinking about the issues in play.
My guess.... they are risking pissing off a handful of real divers like yourself to produce a cleaner design that appeals to a broader audience perhaps. Just like Rolex, Omega, Tudor, SAS..... Life is about compromises.

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Post by Jeep99dad » Tue Mar 13, 2018 4:27 am

bedlam wrote:
tattoo chef wrote:
Mon Mar 12, 2018 5:58 pm
bedlam wrote:Did he run out of money and couldn't afford to index the whole bezel??

Micros FFS
I can’t say for sure but since he is real Diver, and his guys do actually wear these, maybe they feel it’s not needed.

On top of that, how many you think that buy these get any deeper than their bathtub with them?
Wasn't the Scurfa guy a commercial diver? They do things very differently and their surface team tracks their time, so he wouldn't have much experience using a dive watch as a timing tool.

There is also an ISO that describes what is necessary for it to be a dive watch. Why ignore the existing standard in the area?

Indexing the bezel takes nothing from those who don't dive and is a boon to those who use the watch as a dive tool so, again, why not index it? Honestly, I think he is just copying older designs without really thinking about the issues in play.
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Post by jimyritz » Tue Mar 13, 2018 5:01 am

Thanks for posting Terry- I like the MS 18 LE....

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Post by Jeep99dad » Tue Mar 13, 2018 6:21 am

I have two of these, the MS17 above and the blue version. I thought I’d prefer the black MS17 but the blue is the clear fave for me. I wear the blue more. I like the upcoming no date vintage look with the brown rubber strap.
The quality on these is definitely a notch above the prior models and it’s made by the same factory that made the Bell Diver one.

He has a new one coming up which is a replacement of the old silicon but improved and a bit smaller. Also higher quality.
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Post by bedlam » Tue Mar 13, 2018 6:40 am

Jeep99dad wrote:
Tue Mar 13, 2018 4:27 am
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So he can do it :thumbsup:

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Post by bedlam » Wed Mar 14, 2018 3:39 am

dnslater wrote:
Tue Mar 13, 2018 3:56 am
bedlam wrote:
Mon Mar 12, 2018 8:36 pm

Indexing the bezel takes nothing from those who don't dive and is a boon to those who use the watch as a dive tool so, again, why not index it? Honestly, I think he is just copying older designs without really thinking about the issues in play.
My guess.... they are risking pissing off a handful of real divers like yourself to produce a cleaner design that appeals to a broader audience perhaps. Just like Rolex, Omega, Tudor, SAS..... Life is about compromises.
Nah.

From Scurfa:
Thank you for your enquiry. The M.S.18 will have a fully indexed bezel. It will be available around July.

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Post by Jeep99dad » Wed Mar 14, 2018 4:54 am

bedlam wrote:
Jeep99dad wrote:
Tue Mar 13, 2018 4:27 am
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So he can do it :thumbsup:
Yeah. He can and does.
He offers both. Many don’t mind the bezel not being fully indexed. Aesthetically i prefer it. But both options exist
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Post by Torrid » Wed Mar 14, 2018 5:23 pm

I want that SS case version. Looks great. Been wearing the SS bracelet version I got from T a lot lately,

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Post by toxicavenger » Wed Mar 14, 2018 6:32 pm

Torrid wrote:
Wed Mar 14, 2018 5:23 pm
I want that SS case version. Looks great. Been wearing the SS bracelet version I got from T a lot lately,
They are great watches for the price point for sure.

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Post by rain_maker » Thu Mar 29, 2018 7:30 pm

bedlam wrote:
Mon Mar 12, 2018 5:12 pm
Did he run out of money and couldn't afford to index the whole bezel??

Micros FFS
I've seen this from another watch company. Maybe it will catch on...
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Post by bedlam » Thu Mar 29, 2018 8:02 pm

rain_maker wrote:
Thu Mar 29, 2018 7:30 pm
bedlam wrote:
Mon Mar 12, 2018 5:12 pm
Did he run out of money and couldn't afford to index the whole bezel??

Micros FFS
I've seen this from another watch company. Maybe it will catch on...
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OMG.

You are making the same point I started with many moons back. Micros are still copying a 1950's Rolex bezel design as used on the Sub when the dive watch ISO requirements have changed over time.

Even Rolex upgraded from that old bezel design on their serious dive watch, the Sea Dweller.

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Post by rain_maker » Thu Mar 29, 2018 8:22 pm

bedlam wrote:
Thu Mar 29, 2018 8:02 pm
rain_maker wrote:
Thu Mar 29, 2018 7:30 pm
bedlam wrote:
Mon Mar 12, 2018 5:12 pm
Did he run out of money and couldn't afford to index the whole bezel??

Micros FFS
I've seen this from another watch company. Maybe it will catch on...
Image
OMG.

You are making the same point I started with many moons back. Micros are still copying a 1950's Rolex bezel design as used on the Sub when the dive watch ISO requirements have changed over time.

Even Rolex upgraded from that old bezel design on their serious dive watch, the Sea Dweller.
Unless I'm mistaken the ISO requirement is a 60 min bezel with markings every 5 min. I could be wrong but a lot of other (current) watches have a similar set up (5min markings with minute markings for the last 15min) such as Tudor BB, Blancpain FF, Aegir, etc.

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Post by bedlam » Thu Mar 29, 2018 8:35 pm

rain_maker wrote:
Thu Mar 29, 2018 8:22 pm
bedlam wrote:
Thu Mar 29, 2018 8:02 pm
rain_maker wrote:
Thu Mar 29, 2018 7:30 pm
bedlam wrote:
Mon Mar 12, 2018 5:12 pm
Did he run out of money and couldn't afford to index the whole bezel??

Micros FFS
I've seen this from another watch company. Maybe it will catch on...
OMG.

You are making the same point I started with many moons back. Micros are still copying a 1950's Rolex bezel design as used on the Sub when the dive watch ISO requirements have changed over time.

Even Rolex upgraded from that old bezel design on their serious dive watch, the Sea Dweller.
Unless I'm mistaken the ISO requirement is a 60 min bezel with markings every 5 min. I could be wrong but a lot of other (current) watches have a similar set up (5min markings with minute markings for the last 15min) such as Tudor BB, Blancpain FF, Aegir, etc.
You are referring to the old standard. The current ISO 6425 says:
...The presence of a time-preselecting device, for example a unidirectional rotating bezel or a digital display. Such a device shall be protected against inadvertent rotation or wrong manipulation.

If it is a rotating bezel, it shall have a minute scale going up to 60 min.

The markings indicating every 5 min shall be clearly indicated.

The markings on the dial, if existing, shall be coordinated with those of the preselecting device and shall be clearly visible...

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