The Dive Watch Connection

Chris S. wrote: ↑

Tue Jun 26, 2018 4:21 pm

Dude I need crown bad.

toxicavenger wrote: ↑

Tue Jun 26, 2018 12:39 pm

Recently I had to work on finding some parts to fit a friend's kobold that had some issues period after dealing with multiple companies I finally found one that I could get parts from. So I bought some extra parts to see if any of you guys need them.

I have 20/22mm lug bars, small crowns with MK logo on them. Large crowns no logo, polished for the larger 44mm watches. All of the crowns have tubes also. The small crowns are for the smaller kobold watches at 41 mm. Just a heads up these crowns have a non replaceable gasket in them, so if yours fails you have to replace the whole crown period on the large crowns you can replace the gasket. I do have one DLC small crown left. Send me a private message if you're interested.

Chris S. wrote: ↑

Tue Jun 26, 2018 4:35 pm

toxicavenger wrote: ↑

Tue Jun 26, 2018 12:39 pm

Recently I had to work on finding some parts to fit a friend's kobold that had some issues period after dealing with multiple companies I finally found one that I could get parts from. So I bought some extra parts to see if any of you guys need them.

I have 20/22mm lug bars, small crowns with MK logo on them. Large crowns no logo, polished for the larger 44mm watches. All of the crowns have tubes also. The small crowns are for the smaller kobold watches at 41 mm. Just a heads up these crowns have a non replaceable gasket in them, so if yours fails you have to replace the whole crown period on the large crowns you can replace the gasket. I do have one DLC small crown left. Send me a private message if you're interested.

Hey Terry,
I need a crown for my seal . Not sure what size .
Let me know .

Thanks Chris.

toxicavenger wrote:Well this isn't going like I expected. I have sold some parts to a few members here but that is it. I have had a ton of other people say they interested and then no reply back. So basically I was getting "Kobold".

With that being said I will sell the remaining parts and will not getting anymore at this time.

tmw wrote:Terry - I appreciate all that you did here. I picked up parts and do still wear my kobolds that I have.

You can hate all you want on kobold, still some damn nice watches. Everyone here who has any seals (and I know you are out there), soarways, phantoms, etc. worth it to pick up a crown or lug bar or two - as you never know. Any watchmaker can repair - and if I have issues - I will first call terry's watchmaker.....then jack at IWW....and I am sure there are others.

Rackness wrote: ↑

Fri Jul 27, 2018 6:20 am

toxicavenger wrote:Well this isn't going like I expected. I have sold some parts to a few members here but that is it. I have had a ton of other people say they interested and then no reply back. So basically I was getting "Kobold".

With that being said I will sell the remaining parts and will not getting anymore at this time.

You have “invented limited edition watch parts”

CGSshorty wrote: ↑

Fri Jul 27, 2018 9:33 am

tmw wrote:Terry - I appreciate all that you did here. I picked up parts and do still wear my kobolds that I have.

You can hate all you want on kobold, still some damn nice watches. Everyone here who has any seals (and I know you are out there), soarways, phantoms, etc. worth it to pick up a crown or lug bar or two - as you never know. Any watchmaker can repair - and if I have issues - I will first call terry's watchmaker.....then jack at IWW....and I am sure there are others.

My concern isn’t really the repair, it is parts availability. What if you need hands or a bezel? I think you might be out of luck.

tmw wrote: ↑

Fri Jul 27, 2018 6:46 am

Terry - I appreciate all that you did here. I picked up parts and do still wear my kobolds that I have.

You can hate all you want on kobold, still some damn nice watches. Everyone here who has any seals (and I know you are out there), soarways, phantoms, etc. worth it to pick up a crown or lug bar or two - as you never know. Any watchmaker can repair - and if I have issues - I will first call terry's watchmaker.....then jack at IWW....and I am sure there are others.

hoppyjr wrote: ↑

Fri Jul 27, 2018 9:57 am

If we are being honest with ourselves this is the case with every micro/boutique watch brand. Sure they are around today and have spares, but the future is uncertain. Kobold is a good example and when we think of them 3-5 years ago they were pretty well regarded. If they can take such a hard fall then it can happen to anyone.

It’s largely why I’ll be avoiding any small brand watch that is over $1k or so. Figure those under a grand are potentially “disposable” and it’s all good. For long term service & parts availability we really need to stick to the big boys. I’d say Sinn goes with the established brands based on their size, history, and continued popularity.

hoppyjr wrote: ↑

Fri Jul 27, 2018 9:57 am

If we are being honest with ourselves this is the case with every micro/boutique watch brand. Sure they are around today and have spares, but the future is uncertain. Kobold is a good example and when we think of them 3-5 years ago they were pretty well regarded. If they can take such a hard fall then it can happen to anyone.

It’s largely why I’ll be avoiding any small brand watch that is over $1k or so. Figure those under a grand are potentially “disposable” and it’s all good. For long term service & parts availability we really need to stick to the big boys. I’d say Sinn goes with the established brands based on their size, history, and continued popularity.

Ryeguy wrote: ↑

Fri Jul 27, 2018 1:06 pm

hoppyjr wrote: ↑

Fri Jul 27, 2018 9:57 am

If we are being honest with ourselves this is the case with every micro/boutique watch brand. Sure they are around today and have spares, but the future is uncertain. Kobold is a good example and when we think of them 3-5 years ago they were pretty well regarded. If they can take such a hard fall then it can happen to anyone.

It’s largely why I’ll be avoiding any small brand watch that is over $1k or so. Figure those under a grand are potentially “disposable” and it’s all good. For long term service & parts availability we really need to stick to the big boys. I’d say Sinn goes with the established brands based on their size, history, and continued popularity.

I agree with you on this Hop. Ironically, this is one of the things that makes a brand like Ginault "interesting" (note: I didn't say "good" or "admirable" - "interesting" covers a pretty broad spectrum of activities).

The Ginault Ocean Rover is a direct replication of a 5 digit Rolex Submariner case. The only difference is the click spring is mounted 180* off from a Sub (so you lever from the opposite side to remove the bezel). As far as I can tell, all potential wear items related to the case (seals, crown tube, click spring, crystal, bezel insert, bezel retention spring, etc.) are replaceable with aftermarket (or authentic) Rolex parts.

The movement is an ETA 2824-2 copy with the only deviation being the pinion height and shock resistance.

I guess if you flooded the watch and pooched the dial and handset you would be a bit hosed, but even then there are enough dial vendors out there and handset vendors I think you could find a decent replacement.

So on one hand, we disdain Ginault for replicating a case design, but when looked at from a maintainability perspective, it actually makes sense to do this given the absolute wealth of spare parts available in the market.

hoppyjr wrote: ↑

Fri Jul 27, 2018 10:46 am

^ I didn’t say price was a factor. I’m avoiding micros over $1k or so as I see them as potential wasted money due to future parts availability.

toxicavenger wrote: ↑

Fri Jul 27, 2018 1:16 pm

Ryeguy wrote: ↑

Fri Jul 27, 2018 1:06 pm

hoppyjr wrote: ↑

Fri Jul 27, 2018 9:57 am

If we are being honest with ourselves this is the case with every micro/boutique watch brand. Sure they are around today and have spares, but the future is uncertain. Kobold is a good example and when we think of them 3-5 years ago they were pretty well regarded. If they can take such a hard fall then it can happen to anyone.

It’s largely why I’ll be avoiding any small brand watch that is over $1k or so. Figure those under a grand are potentially “disposable” and it’s all good. For long term service & parts availability we really need to stick to the big boys. I’d say Sinn goes with the established brands based on their size, history, and continued popularity.

I agree with you on this Hop. Ironically, this is one of the things that makes a brand like Ginault "interesting" (note: I didn't say "good" or "admirable" - "interesting" covers a pretty broad spectrum of activities).

The Ginault Ocean Rover is a direct replication of a 5 digit Rolex Submariner case. The only difference is the click spring is mounted 180* off from a Sub (so you lever from the opposite side to remove the bezel). As far as I can tell, all potential wear items related to the case (seals, crown tube, click spring, crystal, bezel insert, bezel retention spring, etc.) are replaceable with aftermarket (or authentic) Rolex parts.

The movement is an ETA 2824-2 copy with the only deviation being the pinion height and shock resistance.

I guess if you flooded the watch and pooched the dial and handset you would be a bit hosed, but even then there are enough dial vendors out there and handset vendors I think you could find a decent replacement.

So on one hand, we disdain Ginault for replicating a case design, but when looked at from a maintainability perspective, it actually makes sense to do this given the absolute wealth of spare parts available in the market.

Basically you are saying it is good they have copied a design. I guess those Invicta's are good to go then also.

toxicavenger wrote:

hoppyjr wrote: ↑

Fri Jul 27, 2018 10:46 am

^ I didn’t say price was a factor. I’m avoiding micros over $1k or so as I see them as potential wasted money due to future parts availability.

Oh okay I agree with you there, kind of. If I think about the future that far out then I am not buying any watches at all.

So does the Vertex fall in this category?