The Dive Watch Connection

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jtbenson wrote: ↑

Wed Mar 21, 2018 2:40 pm

think this was a collab that terry posted about earlier

I didn't collab anything with them. But I did mess up and show them one of my straps at Wind Up. So maybe that is where they got the idea from.

toxicavenger wrote: ↑

Wed Mar 21, 2018 6:27 pm

jtbenson wrote: ↑

Wed Mar 21, 2018 2:40 pm

think this was a collab that terry posted about earlier

I didn't collab anything with them. But I did mess up and show them one of my straps at Wind Up. So maybe that is where they got the idea from.

That's shitty. If C&B stole it, they can go fuck themselves.

Heuerville wrote: ↑

Wed Mar 21, 2018 7:00 pm

toxicavenger wrote: ↑

Wed Mar 21, 2018 6:27 pm

jtbenson wrote: ↑

Wed Mar 21, 2018 2:40 pm

think this was a collab that terry posted about earlier

I didn't collab anything with them. But I did mess up and show them one of my straps at Wind Up. So maybe that is where they got the idea from.

That's shitty. If C&B stole it, they can go fuck themselves.

Honestly I do believe there is a ton of overlap in the watch strap business. So I have no idea if they did. But they did know that I carried them (since I showed them). So it is weird that few a months later they came out with the exact same nylon and hardware (except the buckle). I showed the jungle green strap at Wind up. But they did tell me "all watch strap companies stick together" .

Looks like they call them their Supreme Nato. They jumped on your bandwagon, which is Shitty imo.

https://www.crownandbuckle.com/straps-b ... traps.html

Your buckle is much much better

Dude WTF

Not ok. C&B sucks.

And yes your buckle is so nice that I’ve used it on other straps. Really.


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toxicavenger wrote: ↑

Wed Mar 21, 2018 7:21 pm

Heuerville wrote: ↑

Wed Mar 21, 2018 7:00 pm

toxicavenger wrote: ↑

Wed Mar 21, 2018 6:27 pm

jtbenson wrote: ↑

Wed Mar 21, 2018 2:40 pm

think this was a collab that terry posted about earlier

I didn't collab anything with them. But I did mess up and show them one of my straps at Wind Up. So maybe that is where they got the idea from.

That's shitty. If C&B stole it, they can go fuck themselves.

But they did tell me "all watch strap companies stick together" .

I have seen other strap sellers market rally straps with almost identical photo set-ups as I have used.
No honour among thieves.

Heuerville wrote: ↑

Wed Mar 21, 2018 7:56 pm

toxicavenger wrote: ↑

Wed Mar 21, 2018 7:21 pm

Heuerville wrote: ↑

Wed Mar 21, 2018 7:00 pm

toxicavenger wrote: ↑

Wed Mar 21, 2018 6:27 pm

jtbenson wrote: ↑

Wed Mar 21, 2018 2:40 pm

think this was a collab that terry posted about earlier

I didn't collab anything with them. But I did mess up and show them one of my straps at Wind Up. So maybe that is where they got the idea from.

That's shitty. If C&B stole it, they can go fuck themselves.

But they did tell me "all watch strap companies stick together" .

I have seen other strap sellers market rally straps with almost identical photo set-ups as I have used.
No honour among thieves.

Well I definitely didn't design them, like the work you and Art do. So I can't say that. But it does hit a little close to home.

But I can say this, I will try my best to bet them out in other ways. I don't take ToxicNATOs lightly.

Word needs to spread. This is uncool.

Agreed. This is a pretty low thing to do.

I'll vote with my wallet and order another Toxic today just to spite C&B. F- them.

Order placed.

PS - Terry - the discount code offered in the email sent Monday, March 19, isn't working. No big deal as I was able to use the standard offered discount in the pop-up window. Just an FYI.

Voted with my wallet yesterday. Two Shiznits incoming.

toxicavenger wrote: ↑

Wed Mar 21, 2018 8:00 pm

Heuerville wrote: ↑

Wed Mar 21, 2018 7:56 pm

toxicavenger wrote: ↑

Wed Mar 21, 2018 7:21 pm

Heuerville wrote: ↑

Wed Mar 21, 2018 7:00 pm

toxicavenger wrote: ↑

Wed Mar 21, 2018 6:27 pm

jtbenson wrote: ↑

Wed Mar 21, 2018 2:40 pm

think this was a collab that terry posted about earlier

I didn't collab anything with them. But I did mess up and show them one of my straps at Wind Up. So maybe that is where they got the idea from.

That's shitty. If C&B stole it, they can go fuck themselves.

But they did tell me "all watch strap companies stick together" .

I have seen other strap sellers market rally straps with almost identical photo set-ups as I have used.
No honour among thieves.

Well I definitely didn't design them, like the work you and Art do. So I can't say that. But it does hit a little close to home.

But I can say this, I will try my best to bet them out in other ways. I don't take ToxicNATOs lightly.

What's your wholesale cost (don't answer that in public)? If it's not too high, offer to exchange a ToxicNATO to anyone who buys one of these. You could run a viral campaign of "you might as well have the original".

That would get their attention.

Ryeguy wrote: ↑

Thu Mar 22, 2018 6:45 am

Agreed. This is a pretty low thing to do.

I'll vote with my wallet and order another Toxic today just to spite C&B. F- them.

Order placed.

PS - Terry - the discount code offered in the email sent Monday, March 19, isn't working. No big deal as I was able to use the standard offered discount in the pop-up window. Just an FYI.

Chris when did you try the code? I had this issue a few days ago but I thought I fixed it. At least I hope I did.

Thanks for your business bro.

JP Chestnut wrote: ↑

Thu Mar 22, 2018 9:01 am

toxicavenger wrote: ↑

Wed Mar 21, 2018 8:00 pm

Heuerville wrote: ↑

Wed Mar 21, 2018 7:56 pm

toxicavenger wrote: ↑

Wed Mar 21, 2018 7:21 pm

Heuerville wrote: ↑

Wed Mar 21, 2018 7:00 pm

toxicavenger wrote: ↑

Wed Mar 21, 2018 6:27 pm

jtbenson wrote: ↑

Wed Mar 21, 2018 2:40 pm

think this was a collab that terry posted about earlier

I didn't collab anything with them. But I did mess up and show them one of my straps at Wind Up. So maybe that is where they got the idea from.

That's shitty. If C&B stole it, they can go fuck themselves.

But they did tell me "all watch strap companies stick together" .

I have seen other strap sellers market rally straps with almost identical photo set-ups as I have used.
No honour among thieves.

Well I definitely didn't design them, like the work you and Art do. So I can't say that. But it does hit a little close to home.

But I can say this, I will try my best to bet them out in other ways. I don't take ToxicNATOs lightly.

What's your wholesale cost (don't answer that in public)? If it's not too high, offer to exchange a ToxicNATO to anyone who buys one of these. You could run a viral campaign of "you might as well have the original".

That would get their attention.

Great idea. Honestly if my wholesale cost was lower than it really is then I would have a lot lower price. This strap is super high at wholesale for a small shop like mine. But I might do a trade in program for a large discount. I am not sure.

toxicavenger wrote: ↑

Thu Mar 22, 2018 12:02 pm

JP Chestnut wrote: ↑

Thu Mar 22, 2018 9:01 am

toxicavenger wrote: ↑

Wed Mar 21, 2018 8:00 pm

Heuerville wrote: ↑

Wed Mar 21, 2018 7:56 pm

toxicavenger wrote: ↑

Wed Mar 21, 2018 7:21 pm

Heuerville wrote: ↑

Wed Mar 21, 2018 7:00 pm

toxicavenger wrote: ↑

Wed Mar 21, 2018 6:27 pm

jtbenson wrote: ↑

Wed Mar 21, 2018 2:40 pm

think this was a collab that terry posted about earlier

I didn't collab anything with them. But I did mess up and show them one of my straps at Wind Up. So maybe that is where they got the idea from.

That's shitty. If C&B stole it, they can go fuck themselves.

But they did tell me "all watch strap companies stick together" .

I have seen other strap sellers market rally straps with almost identical photo set-ups as I have used.
No honour among thieves.

Well I definitely didn't design them, like the work you and Art do. So I can't say that. But it does hit a little close to home.

But I can say this, I will try my best to bet them out in other ways. I don't take ToxicNATOs lightly.

What's your wholesale cost (don't answer that in public)? If it's not too high, offer to exchange a ToxicNATO to anyone who buys one of these. You could run a viral campaign of "you might as well have the original".

That would get their attention.

Great idea. Honestly if my wholesale cost was lower than it really is then I would have a lot lower price. This strap is super high at wholesale for a small shop like mine. But I might do a trade in program for a large discount. I am not sure.

Good news is your base price is lower and you have free shipping, where they charge for that too. Sucks they ripped you off. I called them out on IG but I expect they will delete the post.

Hahaha too funny Roger!

toxicavenger wrote: ↑

Thu Mar 22, 2018 11:53 am

Ryeguy wrote: ↑

Thu Mar 22, 2018 6:45 am

Agreed. This is a pretty low thing to do.

I'll vote with my wallet and order another Toxic today just to spite C&B. F- them.

Order placed.

PS - Terry - the discount code offered in the email sent Monday, March 19, isn't working. No big deal as I was able to use the standard offered discount in the pop-up window. Just an FYI.

Chris when did you try the code? I had this issue a few days ago but I thought I fixed it. At least I hope I did.

Thanks for your business bro.

This morning. Actually, immediately after I read this thread.
I tried cutting and pasting directly from the email plus a bunch of permutations - upper case, lower case, with the hyphens and without.

Two on the way.

That is bad form but not uncommon in the watch industry unfortunately.
Public opinion will win everytime and if people spread the word around the forums it will raise awareness and also drive some business to Terrys site.

Regards Graeme

Wow that sucks Terry!

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I saw on their IG post today that for those who don't like the extra thickness, they are offering to let you request to neuter the strap upon ordering..

That sounds familiar...

They saw imitation is the sincerest form of flattery...

BTW Terry, I woke up after the last get together with an Orange rubber stuck in my Watch box and a vague recollection of you whispering something in my ear.....Thanks!


(Seiko Orange vent strap)

That’s goofy. Terry is such a good dude. I hope this bites them HARD.


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