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Re: New Bremont Military LE: USAF A-10 Warthog

Post by BBK357 » Wed Oct 15, 2014 9:01 pm

I'm totally in the middle. I have nothing against the brand but anytime you have a bunch of hyper fan boys shooting rainbows out their asses it gets annoying and makes you not care about the brand.

That being said I know 2 things about Bremont-


#1 I would give both nuts for this watch. I absolutely love the style in general, dial and hands are a work of art.
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Post by ericf4 » Wed Oct 15, 2014 9:03 pm

That was Fn funny as hell. As for the hyper fan boys, what's the diff with that and the many here who feel that way about Rolex, or Seiko, or any others really.
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Post by hoppyjr » Wed Oct 15, 2014 9:50 pm

BBK357 wrote:I'm totally in the middle. I have.....a bunch of hyper fan boys shooting rainbows out their asses......
Not the first time you've been "totally in the middle" now is it?
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Post by marchone » Thu Oct 16, 2014 4:36 am

lilhoody wrote:One thing I never liked about the JLC NS line was the branding...I never got used to it. That said, I've owned two. The only reason I did/would was because the branding was hidden in the back.
Similarly, I had reservations about the Speedy Pro Moonwatch's ad space but also got over it as it's only on the caseback.
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Post by JP Chestnut » Thu Oct 16, 2014 4:47 am

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lilhoody wrote:One thing I never liked about the JLC NS line was the branding...I never got used to it. That said, I've owned two. The only reason I did/would was because the branding was hidden in the back.
Similarly, I had reservations about the Speedy Pro Moonwatch's ad space but also got over it as it's only on the caseback.
The IWC Top Gun is similarly lame.

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Post by marchone » Thu Oct 16, 2014 4:51 am

Agreed. They really ruined the first one. In color no less.

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BBK357 wrote:I'm totally in the middle. I have nothing against the brand but anytime you have a bunch of hyper fan boys shooting rainbows out their asses it gets annoying and makes you not care about the brand.

That being said I know 2 things about Bremont-


#1 I would give both nuts for this watch. I absolutely love the style in general, dial and hands are a work of art.
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#1 to balance out some of the "rainbows," the P-51 is not my favorite Bremont; I've seen it in person and find it difficult to read the info on the dial. But maybe my eyes are just getting old.

#2 Aren't subforums there for comment on the brands - good or bad - (haters are invited to start threads too)? If not I can move all my fanboy Bremont posts to Alt1tude or ATG.

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Re: New Bremont Military LE: USAF A-10 Warthog

Post by dshap » Thu Oct 16, 2014 5:36 am

I don't really like the LE's, but at least they are true limited editions (unlike other brands for whom limited edition means 2000 pieces :rolleyes: ).

The commissioned watches are another story. They're only for unit members and not available to the public, so if the military guys want to buy them (and many clearly do), why should any of us have a problem with that? It's just like if they ordered some custom embroidered caps with their insignia on them.
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Post by moishlashen » Thu Oct 16, 2014 5:38 am

ericf4 wrote:That was Fn funny as hell. As for the hyper fan boys, what's the diff with that and the many here who feel that way about Rolex, or Seiko, or any others really.

I think we make fun of all fanboys of which all of us are at one point or another-that's pretty much the point of DWC IMO.
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Post by rockmastermike » Thu Oct 16, 2014 6:05 am

Either you like it or you don't. I do. Both sides don't need 4 (and likely more) pages to convince the other that they are right.

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moishlashen wrote:
ericf4 wrote:That was Fn funny as hell. As for the hyper fan boys, what's the diff with that and the many here who feel that way about Rolex, or Seiko, or any others really.

I think we make fun of all fanboys of which all of us are at one point or another-that's pretty much the point of DWC IMO.
I think this is right. I obviously have my brands that I love. When you're a fan of a particular brand, you have a tendency to look at it through rose colored glasses (the great stuff is AWESOME, the good stuff is GREAT, the okay stuff is GOOD, and the bad stuff is "well, it wouldn't be my choice, but I still love the brand and think they're AWESOME"). We're all susceptible to it, no matter how hard we try to stay objective.

Personally, I like some of Bremont's designs and don't like others. By all accounts, their customer service is outstanding, and they seem to have a passion for what they're doing. I was definitely put off by the "in house movement" fiasco, but not enough to make me give up on the brand. From an admittedly small sample size, it seems like folks have to avail themselves of Bremont's terrific customer service a bit too often for my tastes.

Kobold, on the other hand... :stir:
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Post by JP Chestnut » Thu Oct 16, 2014 6:23 am

JBZ wrote:
moishlashen wrote:
ericf4 wrote:That was Fn funny as hell. As for the hyper fan boys, what's the diff with that and the many here who feel that way about Rolex, or Seiko, or any others really.

I think we make fun of all fanboys of which all of us are at one point or another-that's pretty much the point of DWC IMO.
I think this is right. I obviously have my brands that I love. When you're a fan of a particular brand, you have a tendency to look at it through rose colored glasses (the great stuff is AWESOME, the good stuff is GREAT, the okay stuff is GOOD, and the bad stuff is "well, it wouldn't be my choice, but I still love the brand and think they're AWESOME"). We're all susceptible to it, no matter how hard we try to stay objective.

Personally, I like some of Bremont's designs and don't like others. By all accounts, their customer service is outstanding, and they seem to have a passion for what they're doing. I was definitely put off by the "in house movement" fiasco, but not enough to make me give up on the brand. From an admittedly small sample size, it seems like folks have to avail themselves of Bremont's terrific customer service a bit too often for my tastes.

Kobold, on the other hand... :stir:
I can't say I've heard a great deal of "my Bremont is broken" stories. Most of their good CS stories seem to be more like "I contacted them for something and they sent me something else for free".

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Re: New Bremont Military LE: USAF A-10 Warthog

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JP Chestnut wrote:
JBZ wrote:
moishlashen wrote:
ericf4 wrote:That was Fn funny as hell. As for the hyper fan boys, what's the diff with that and the many here who feel that way about Rolex, or Seiko, or any others really.

I think we make fun of all fanboys of which all of us are at one point or another-that's pretty much the point of DWC IMO.
I think this is right. I obviously have my brands that I love. When you're a fan of a particular brand, you have a tendency to look at it through rose colored glasses (the great stuff is AWESOME, the good stuff is GREAT, the okay stuff is GOOD, and the bad stuff is "well, it wouldn't be my choice, but I still love the brand and think they're AWESOME"). We're all susceptible to it, no matter how hard we try to stay objective.

Personally, I like some of Bremont's designs and don't like others. By all accounts, their customer service is outstanding, and they seem to have a passion for what they're doing. I was definitely put off by the "in house movement" fiasco, but not enough to make me give up on the brand. From an admittedly small sample size, it seems like folks have to avail themselves of Bremont's terrific customer service a bit too often for my tastes.

Kobold, on the other hand... :stir:
I can't say I've heard a great deal of "my Bremont is broken" stories. Most of their good CS stories seem to be more like "I contacted them for something and they sent me something else for free".
That's actually not a bad thing.... Better then I was setting the time and my crown pulled out or watch was not within COSC spec complaints.

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Re: New Bremont Military LE: USAF A-10 Warthog

Post by AntonioPD » Thu Oct 16, 2014 7:09 am

JP Chestnut wrote:
JBZ wrote:
moishlashen wrote:
ericf4 wrote:That was Fn funny as hell. As for the hyper fan boys, what's the diff with that and the many here who feel that way about Rolex, or Seiko, or any others really.

I think we make fun of all fanboys of which all of us are at one point or another-that's pretty much the point of DWC IMO.
I think this is right. I obviously have my brands that I love. When you're a fan of a particular brand, you have a tendency to look at it through rose colored glasses (the great stuff is AWESOME, the good stuff is GREAT, the okay stuff is GOOD, and the bad stuff is "well, it wouldn't be my choice, but I still love the brand and think they're AWESOME"). We're all susceptible to it, no matter how hard we try to stay objective.

Personally, I like some of Bremont's designs and don't like others. By all accounts, their customer service is outstanding, and they seem to have a passion for what they're doing. I was definitely put off by the "in house movement" fiasco, but not enough to make me give up on the brand. From an admittedly small sample size, it seems like folks have to avail themselves of Bremont's terrific customer service a bit too often for my tastes.

Kobold, on the other hand... :stir:
I can't say I've heard a great deal of "my Bremont is broken" stories. Most of their good CS stories seem to be more like "I contacted them for something and they sent me something else for free".
This post, and Mike's (as usual) literary one, pretty well sum it up!

Jacob, I've only purchased one watch from an AD in my life and that's my Bremont ALT1-C; all the rest of my watches were pre-owned. I had a pretty serious problem with mine - which Bremont went above and beyond to rectify; and yes they gave me a small gift for my troubles.

I'm ready to HTFU and take abuse for being a fanboy! :grin: But I don't "love everything about Bremont" - in fact, here are ten things I don't like about them:

1. The BC and F series from their original line weren't great - as is suggested by the fact that Bremont no longer make them; I think they recovered well with the Solo.

2. Of the ALT watches, I find the tri-compax ones a little too busy; this is why I purchased an ALT1-C.

3. They overreached themselves with the self-aligning screw-down crown on the original ALT series - it was a cool idea but too problematic to produce; kudos to Bremont for pulling back from that.

4. I'm not a fan of the lume on the S500s; I do, however, love the S2000.

5. I've already said I find the P-51 difficult to read in the metal; ditto on the EP120. The Victory, Code Breaker and Wright Flyer, on the other hand, are all beautifully wrought.

6. Tom Cruise wears a Bremont; I can't blame the brand for capitalizing on celebrity interest, but Cruise isn't my idea of a good endorsement (though, I must admit, he makes great movies.)

7. Other than the Solo 37mm Gold, which I can't afford, they don't make a watch that The Skirt would wear.

8. The ALT1-B, though very tacticool, is - again - too difficult to read for me.

9. Quality control may be strained by their quick growth (I read a report that in 2013 they had an 80% increase in inventory turnover) and move of production from Switzerland to the UK; I fully expect them to get that sorted.

10. It has to be said; the in-house movement comments were a blunder (as Nick has admitted). But I spoke with Nick at length about this in July and - unless I'm completely besotted by his charm and the romance of the brand - I believe it was an honest misstep, rather than a calculated lie to promote Wright Flyer sales.

Other than that ... :love: :uj:
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Re: New Bremont Military LE: USAF A-10 Warthog

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JP Chestnut wrote:
JBZ wrote:
moishlashen wrote:
ericf4 wrote:That was Fn funny as hell. As for the hyper fan boys, what's the diff with that and the many here who feel that way about Rolex, or Seiko, or any others really.

I think we make fun of all fanboys of which all of us are at one point or another-that's pretty much the point of DWC IMO.
I think this is right. I obviously have my brands that I love. When you're a fan of a particular brand, you have a tendency to look at it through rose colored glasses (the great stuff is AWESOME, the good stuff is GREAT, the okay stuff is GOOD, and the bad stuff is "well, it wouldn't be my choice, but I still love the brand and think they're AWESOME"). We're all susceptible to it, no matter how hard we try to stay objective.

Personally, I like some of Bremont's designs and don't like others. By all accounts, their customer service is outstanding, and they seem to have a passion for what they're doing. I was definitely put off by the "in house movement" fiasco, but not enough to make me give up on the brand. From an admittedly small sample size, it seems like folks have to avail themselves of Bremont's terrific customer service a bit too often for my tastes.

Kobold, on the other hand... :stir:
I can't say I've heard a great deal of "my Bremont is broken" stories. Most of their good CS stories seem to be more like "I contacted them for something and they sent me something else for free".
I believe Tony had to have the entire case of his watch replaced because of a poorly drilled strap hole in one of the lugs (correct me if I'm wrong Tony). I seem to remember something else, but I could be incorrect. And, hey, every brand has QC issues - if memory serves another member had to send their relatively new AP in for service because the timing was off.
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AntonioPD wrote:
JP Chestnut wrote:
JBZ wrote:
moishlashen wrote:
ericf4 wrote:That was Fn funny as hell. As for the hyper fan boys, what's the diff with that and the many here who feel that way about Rolex, or Seiko, or any others really.

I think we make fun of all fanboys of which all of us are at one point or another-that's pretty much the point of DWC IMO.
I think this is right. I obviously have my brands that I love. When you're a fan of a particular brand, you have a tendency to look at it through rose colored glasses (the great stuff is AWESOME, the good stuff is GREAT, the okay stuff is GOOD, and the bad stuff is "well, it wouldn't be my choice, but I still love the brand and think they're AWESOME"). We're all susceptible to it, no matter how hard we try to stay objective.

Personally, I like some of Bremont's designs and don't like others. By all accounts, their customer service is outstanding, and they seem to have a passion for what they're doing. I was definitely put off by the "in house movement" fiasco, but not enough to make me give up on the brand. From an admittedly small sample size, it seems like folks have to avail themselves of Bremont's terrific customer service a bit too often for my tastes.

Kobold, on the other hand... :stir:
I can't say I've heard a great deal of "my Bremont is broken" stories. Most of their good CS stories seem to be more like "I contacted them for something and they sent me something else for free".

6. Tom Cruise wears a Bremont; I can't blame the brand for capitalizing on celebrity interest, but Cruise isn't my idea of a good endorsement (though, I must admit, he makes great movies.)
Ok, the fanboy'ism I can understand. This however :shock: :lol:

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Re: New Bremont Military LE: USAF A-10 Warthog

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AntonioPD wrote:
BBK357 wrote:I'm totally in the middle. I have nothing against the brand but anytime you have a bunch of hyper fan boys shooting rainbows out their asses it gets annoying and makes you not care about the brand.

That being said I know 2 things about Bremont-


#1 I would give both nuts for this watch. I absolutely love the style in general, dial and hands are a work of art.
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#2

#1 to balance out some of the "rainbows," the P-51 is not my favorite Bremont; I've seen it in person and find it difficult to read the info on the dial. But maybe my eyes are just getting old.

#2 Aren't subforums there for comment on the brands - good or bad - (haters are invited to start threads too)? If not I can move all my fanboy Bremont posts to Alt1tude or ATG.

I'd rather hang with you nutters.

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ericf4 wrote:
rockmastermike wrote:Image

No clue what the busty chic pic is about. but it makes this thread more enjoyable.
The open mouth is a nice touch.

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Post by ericf4 » Thu Oct 16, 2014 7:19 am

I'm waiting for RMM so say "oops i accidentally posted a pic of my wife".......then we would be like Ooops sorry......I meant she seems like a great gal.
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ericf4 wrote:I'm waiting for RMM so say "oops i accidentally posted a pic of my wife".......then we would be like Ooops sorry......I meant she seems like a great gal.
If that's his wife, I suspect he's too happy to give a shit about what we said.

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Post by Joeprez » Thu Oct 16, 2014 7:22 am

^ Is she the one that's gonna be giving the BJ to the Bremont fanb... I mean owners??!?!?!
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Post by rockmastermike » Thu Oct 16, 2014 7:24 am

Rules, gentlemen:
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2) Don't look at your watch with a loupe
3) If a thread gets to 4 pages it has to contain boobs at some point

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Post by JP Chestnut » Thu Oct 16, 2014 7:25 am

Joeprez wrote:^ Is she the one that's gonna be giving the BJ to the Bremont fanb... I mean owners??!?!?!
That would be the only reasonable explanation for the crazy price on the Wright Flyer.

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