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Re: New Bremont LE.....

Post by matt.wu » Wed Jul 23, 2014 6:06 pm

They're going to alienate a LOT of people with this release.
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Re: New Bremont LE.....

Post by zepp21 » Wed Jul 23, 2014 6:10 pm

matt.wu wrote:They're going to alienate a LOT of people with this release.
Yeah, like 99.9% of their current clientele. 3-5K for a standard watch is achievable. 25K will alienate all but the .01%.

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Re: New Bremont LE.....

Post by 4pfrench » Wed Jul 23, 2014 6:10 pm

I just can't imagine anyone is going to take this seriously....Bremont is an enthusiast brand and an enthusiast is going to do the math and say "1st in-house movement from a comparative upstart .v FPJ"

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Re: New Bremont LE.....

Post by moishlashen » Wed Jul 23, 2014 6:20 pm

Wow. Interesting piece but price is asinine IMO. I agree with BD on the P51 being my fav to date.
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Re: New Bremont LE.....

Post by Jeep99dad » Wed Jul 23, 2014 6:25 pm

Well, Todd, it's gonna be a tough one to sell at those confirmed prices.
I wish them the best, truly, as I love the brand but this is really not gonna go over well with lots of folks.
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Re: New Bremont LE.....

Post by koda240 » Wed Jul 23, 2014 9:31 pm

matt.wu wrote:They're going to alienate a LOT of people with this release.
Precisely. They've made incredible headway in a short period of time as a brand, but exponentially increasing the price of this watch will turn a lot of people off. Case in point-this thread.

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Re: New Bremont LE.....

Post by hoppyjr » Wed Jul 23, 2014 10:26 pm

I like Bremont and appreciate their designs and excellent customer service. This said, the English brothers need to be careful not to put the cart before the horse.

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Re: New Bremont LE.....

Post by jimyritz » Thu Jul 24, 2014 4:35 am

All 3 of these watches ( FPJ, ALS, VC) are under $20K..

http://www.hodinkee.com/blog/three-on-t ... ress-watch

Check out the video--talk about back sides...

Point being, $27K for the Bremont is just crazy..

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Re: New Bremont LE.....

Post by tmw » Thu Jul 24, 2014 5:07 am

I have no doubt these will sell out.
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Re: New Bremont LE.....

Post by jimyritz » Thu Jul 24, 2014 5:20 am

some are saying it's a La Joux-Perret movement.. :shrug:

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Re: New Bremont LE.....

Post by tmw » Thu Jul 24, 2014 5:54 am

jimyritz wrote:some are saying it's a La Joux-Perret movement.. :shrug:
That would make sense. Believe they did the victory movement.
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Re: New Bremont LE.....

Post by belligero » Thu Jul 24, 2014 6:13 am

Outsourced movement falsely claimed to be in-house.
Irrelevant and unrelated nail-clipping of cloth on the rotor.
Joke pricing.

I'll pass, thanks.
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Re: New Bremont LE.....

Post by jimyritz » Thu Jul 24, 2014 7:18 am

tmw wrote:
jimyritz wrote:some are saying it's a La Joux-Perret movement.. :shrug:
That would make sense. Believe they did the victory movement.
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So is it a La Joux- Perret ebauche that Bremont modifies :think:

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Re: New Bremont LE.....

Post by jimyritz » Thu Jul 24, 2014 8:26 am

Those people who comment on Hodinkee are an angry group..

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Re: New Bremont LE.....

Post by JP Chestnut » Thu Jul 24, 2014 9:14 am

jimyritz wrote:Those people who comment on Hodinkee are an angry group..
Weren't they going to some form of "only ass kissing comments"? I seem to remember hearing that a while back.

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Re: New Bremont LE.....

Post by matt.wu » Thu Jul 24, 2014 9:16 am

I'm not surprised that people are unhappy.

It's partially due to the fact that Bremont is actually doing two very different "lines" of watches. One is more philanthropic and unique and targeted toward getting money to aviation or British historical items. The other is just their standard retail offering.

I've been a proponent of them making this distinction more clear. I've told them they should problem have a "Bremont Historical Preservation" branch or something of the like, and make it very clear that this incredible high-priced LEs generate a lot of money and publicity for interesting causes. Then they can keep their "Bremont Watches" branch for standard retail offerings.

I think that'd go over well to still accomplish what they're trying to do without seeming like they're trying to fleece the average consumer (because these watches are obviously not made for the average consumer).
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Re: New Bremont LE.....

Post by matt.wu » Thu Jul 24, 2014 9:17 am

This is certainly pretty damning though. :think:

Looking forward to Bremont's response:

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Re: New Bremont LE.....

Post by jeckyll » Thu Jul 24, 2014 9:20 am

matt.wu wrote:This is certainly pretty damning though. :think:

Looking forward to Bremont's response:

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Clearly the one of the left is different. The picture is rotated. :)
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Re: New Bremont LE.....

Post by matt.wu » Thu Jul 24, 2014 9:20 am

jeckyll wrote:
matt.wu wrote:This is certainly pretty damning though. :think:

Looking forward to Bremont's response:

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Clearly the one of the left is different. The picture is rotated. :)
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I believe that decision was made in-house, thus....
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Re: New Bremont LE.....

Post by Jeep99dad » Thu Jul 24, 2014 9:21 am

matt.wu wrote:This is certainly pretty damning though. :think:

Looking forward to Bremont's response:

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Me too
It's gotta be addressed. Maybe it has and I missed it though :shrug:
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Re: New Bremont LE.....

Post by JP Chestnut » Thu Jul 24, 2014 9:22 am

matt.wu wrote:This is certainly pretty damning though. :think:

Looking forward to Bremont's response:

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Do you remember when everyone was in a tizzy that the movement in the IWC 3227 supposedly shared the baseplate of the VJ7750? I wonder if it's a similar situation.

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Re: New Bremont LE.....

Post by matt.wu » Thu Jul 24, 2014 9:24 am

And then of course you open everyone's favorite can of worms - what really constitutes in-house...
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Re: New Bremont LE.....

Post by JP Chestnut » Thu Jul 24, 2014 9:29 am

matt.wu wrote:And then of course you open everyone's favorite can of worms - what really constitutes in-house...
It's true. There's so much duplicity in the watch industry right now. Almost everyone seems to be trying to cut corners while pumping prices through the roof. Not to make it a "Rolex versus" thread, but at least with them it's fairly clear where you stand.

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Re: New Bremont LE.....

Post by jimyritz » Thu Jul 24, 2014 9:32 am

JP Chestnut wrote:
jimyritz wrote:Those people who comment on Hodinkee are an angry group..
Weren't they going to some form of "only ass kissing comments"? I seem to remember hearing that a while back.
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Exact opposite on this one...

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Re: New Bremont LE.....

Post by lilhoody » Thu Jul 24, 2014 9:40 am

matt.wu wrote:And then of course you open everyone's favorite can of worms - what really constitutes in-house...
The Kobold pricing was everyone's favorite can of worms. :excited:
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