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Re: New Bremont LE.....

Post by belligero » Tue Jul 29, 2014 11:51 am

This TZ-UK post seems to neatly summarize where we are at this point:
Originally Posted by kungfugerbil

"Did you make this?"
"Yep, totally and completely. Right here"
"Are you sure?"
"Yep, totally. No wait, I mean no. Someone else did. In Switzerland"
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Re: New Bremont LE.....

Post by AntonioPD » Tue Jul 29, 2014 3:11 pm

matt.wu wrote:I did tell them, at the very least in the short term, to scrub any of the in-house wording from their marketing materials and website. It's such a loaded and closely scrutinized term in the watch world, it does them no good to try to even explain it away. Just apologize for the misunderstanding, explain that no malice was meant, and move forward with it branded as a unique movement.
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Re: New Bremont LE.....

Post by lilhoody » Tue Jul 29, 2014 3:44 pm

belligero wrote:
mattjmcd wrote:I'll stipulate...

DOes anyone have some info on the text on their site and/or their press materials prior to this issue coming out?
Prior? It's still right there on the main page.

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Funny how Matt is still tap dancing, yet giving advice how Bremont should recover...probably "signal to noise".
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Re: New Bremont LE.....

Post by 4pfrench » Tue Jul 29, 2014 4:12 pm

matt.wu wrote:I just got off the phone with Mike. But I'm in other meetings now, so I'll post an update later. Basically, they're hoping to clear the air once the Hodinkee piece airs.

I did tell them, at the very least in the short term, to scrub any of the in-house wording from their marketing materials and website. It's such a loaded and closely scrutinized term in the watch world, it does them no good to try to even explain it away. Just apologize for the misunderstanding, explain that no malice was meant, and move forward with it branded as a unique movement.

Tell Mike if Bremont's Agency of Record was Koda, this nonsense never would have happened :thumbsup:
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Re: New Bremont LE.....

Post by Grahamcombat » Tue Jul 29, 2014 4:20 pm

Maybe they outsourced their fake Bremont in-house movements to Panerai for fake Panerai in-house movements to cut costs...:stir:

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Re: New Bremont LE.....

Post by JP Chestnut » Tue Jul 29, 2014 4:27 pm

Grahamcombat wrote:Maybe they outsourced their fake Bremont in-house movements to Panerai for fake Panerai in-house movements to cut costs...:stir:
I suspect their PR was outsourced to Bangladesh at the least.

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Re: New Bremont LE.....

Post by fastward » Tue Jul 29, 2014 4:35 pm

A big deal over another.

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Re: New Bremont LE.....

Post by lilhoody » Tue Jul 29, 2014 4:35 pm

Grahamcombat wrote:Maybe they outsourced their fake Bremont in-house movements to Panerai for fake Panerai in-house movements to cut costs...:stir:
Ironic. I wonder if the Bremont fad will run it's course, like PAnerai and bronze cases?
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Re: New Bremont LE.....

Post by Panerai7 » Tue Jul 29, 2014 4:43 pm

I just read a few posts, not all but some of you guys are pretty harsh on Bremont.
Especially since it's been a DWC darling for a while.

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Re: New Bremont LE.....

Post by lilhoody » Tue Jul 29, 2014 5:32 pm

Panerai7 wrote:I just read a few posts, not all but some of you guys are pretty harsh on Bremont.
Especially since it's been a DWC darling for a while.
So what's the dealio with DWC?
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Re: New Bremont LE.....

Post by Panerai7 » Tue Jul 29, 2014 5:35 pm

lilhoody wrote:
Panerai7 wrote:I just read a few posts, not all but some of you guys are pretty harsh on Bremont.
Especially since it's been a DWC darling for a while.
So what's the dealio with DWC?
So the lume pip is still loose?

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Re: New Bremont LE.....

Post by lilhoody » Tue Jul 29, 2014 5:52 pm

Panerai7 wrote:
lilhoody wrote:
Panerai7 wrote:I just read a few posts, not all but some of you guys are pretty harsh on Bremont.
Especially since it's been a DWC darling for a while.
So what's the dealio with DWC?
So the lume pip is still loose?
I have not sent it in for service; it doesn't effect function.
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Re: New Bremont LE.....

Post by Panerai7 » Tue Jul 29, 2014 5:57 pm

lilhoody wrote:
Panerai7 wrote:
lilhoody wrote:
Panerai7 wrote:I just read a few posts, not all but some of you guys are pretty harsh on Bremont.
Especially since it's been a DWC darling for a while.
So what's the dealio with DWC?
So the lume pip is still loose?
I have not sent it in for service; it doesn't effect function.
Send it to me let me look at it.

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Re: New Bremont LE.....

Post by mattjmcd » Tue Jul 29, 2014 7:18 pm

lilhoody wrote:
belligero wrote:
mattjmcd wrote:I'll stipulate...

DOes anyone have some info on the text on their site and/or their press materials prior to this issue coming out?
Prior? It's still right there on the main page.

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Funny how Matt is still tap dancing, yet giving advice how Bremont should recover...probably "signal to noise".
Signal to noise? Maybe but doubtful, given the nature of my question and the response it elicited. Tap dancing? Piss off. I'm an enthusiast, but not an apologist.

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Re: New Bremont LE.....

Post by koda240 » Tue Jul 29, 2014 7:39 pm

4pfrench wrote:
matt.wu wrote:I just got off the phone with Mike. But I'm in other meetings now, so I'll post an update later. Basically, they're hoping to clear the air once the Hodinkee piece airs.

I did tell them, at the very least in the short term, to scrub any of the in-house wording from their marketing materials and website. It's such a loaded and closely scrutinized term in the watch world, it does them no good to try to even explain it away. Just apologize for the misunderstanding, explain that no malice was meant, and move forward with it branded as a unique movement.

Tell Mike if Bremont's Agency of Record was Koda, this nonsense never would have happened :thumbsup:
You are a wise man Paul! I would love a watch brand in our lineup.

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