Bremont Vs Rolex

[kempoman]

Both are good looking Rolex Explorer II is elegant whereas TN is more adventurous (which i like better). The asking price for Terra Nova (modified ETA ) according to this forum around USD 6500 (on rubber strap) which close to Rolex Explorer II (white dial) pricing range.

What would be your choice?

[dukerules]

I like both of them, but they are so different. Apples to oranges. I think I'll have a stronger opinion when I get to see a TN in the metal in a few weeks.

[kempoman]

... but price is so close for comparison by now IMHO.

[lorsban]

Explorer 2 is one of the best Rolies out there. Understated, classic, dual time, robust.

The Bremont is nice too but I still don't believe that watches with ETA should cost that much.

[toxicavenger]

hands down the E2 is my pick

[BBK357]

It's funny that a new brand using eta is in Rolex pricing territory.

[fastward]

It's funny that a new brand using eta is in Rolex pricing territory.

Tudor?

[jimyritz]

MSRP on a the Rolex is $8100
MSRP on the Terranova is $6500...
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Resale about 78-85% for the Rolex
Resale for the Bremont 65%
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Bremont has established a solid reputation making a specific type of watch.....Just not in the same league as Rolex...

I think it's apple and oranges....I think Bremont vs Breitling might be a better comparison---

Maybe compare the Terranova to the Super Ocean GMT

Just my take...

Mike

[gonzomantis]

MSRP on a the Rolex is $8100
MSRP on the Terranova is $6500...
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Resale about 78-85% for the Rolex
Resale for the Bremont 65%
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Bremont has established a solid reputation making a specific type of watch.....Just not in the same league as Rolex...

I think it's apple and oranges....I think Bremont vs Breitling might be a better comparison---

Maybe compare the Terranova to the Super Ocean GMT

Just my take...

Mike

Excellent summary. The only other issue is that most folks on the street haven't heard of Bremont. I wish there was a store near me that carried them, so I could really see one.

[marchone]

Great analysis, Mike. I've handled a few Bremonts and found them very attractive. The downside is their pricing. They went straight for the luxury market.

Another thought is what's known now about their movements? Anybody?

[Panerai7]

This is insane
In this case I'm going back to OS300 > Sub non-C

[kempoman]

MSRP on a the Rolex is $8100
MSRP on the Terranova is $6500...
====================
Resale about 78-85% for the Rolex
Resale for the Bremont 65%
====================

Bremont has established a solid reputation making a specific type of watch.....Just not in the same league as Rolex...

I think it's apple and oranges....I think Bremont vs Breitling might be a better comparison---

Maybe compare the Terranova to the Super Ocean GMT

Just my take...

Mike

Mike, I asked AD MSRP TN is only on rubber strap!! May be another USD600-800 more for Ti bracelet, that sums to USD 7200.

[rain_maker]

This is insane
In this case I'm going back to OS300 > Sub non-C

[Jeep99dad]

They are so different beyond being both GMT mvts. One has to be more appealing to you it better fit your lifestyle... How you dress and where you'll wear it and maybe what other watches you have.
Buy whichever one makes the most sense to you given looks and use.

Personnally unless you get a huge discount on the Bremont I'd go with the ExpII plus the GMT hand on the TN looks off to me. Like an afterthought. Add on to the SM500. It's less cohesive to me.

[jimyritz]

MSRP on a the Rolex is $8100
MSRP on the Terranova is $6500...
====================
Resale about 78-85% for the Rolex
Resale for the Bremont 65%
====================

Bremont has established a solid reputation making a specific type of watch.....Just not in the same league as Rolex...

I think it's apple and oranges....I think Bremont vs Breitling might be a better comparison---

Maybe compare the Terranova to the Super Ocean GMT

Just my take...

Mike

Mike, I asked AD MSRP TN is only on rubber strap!! May be another USD600-800 more for Ti bracelet, that sums to USD 7200.

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Yup---it's pricey and it brings you into a whole other group of watches... a pre-owned Rolex Master GMT II is under 7K..
Planet Ocean GMT range...pre-owned $5900...

Really for the money a Sinn U2 is hard to beat...

[foodle]

MSRP on a the Rolex is $8100
MSRP on the Terranova is $6500...
====================
Resale about 78-85% for the Rolex
Resale for the Bremont 65%
====================

Should probably factor in 15-20% discount from AD on the Bremont versus 0% for the Rolex.

[jimyritz]

MSRP on a the Rolex is $8100
MSRP on the Terranova is $6500...
====================
Resale about 78-85% for the Rolex
Resale for the Bremont 65%
====================

Should probably factor in 15-20% discount from AD on the Bremont versus 0% for the Rolex.

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Good point and that gets into resale as well...

[marchone]

Resale essentially covers it. Better yet for either is gently worn.

[bedlam]

Explorer 2 is one of the best Rolies out there. Understated, classic, dual time, robust.

The Bremont is nice too but I still don't believe that watches with ETA should cost that much.

The proprietary work done on that ETA is extensive. I contacted tham and they said they chose the 2824 over the 2892 deliberately as it was more robust and worked better with the enhancements they made. They install a Faraday cage, and their own proprietary shock absorption system as well as further improve the main spring and balance spring in-house over an already top specced 2824. They also finish/decorate the movement in-house.

[foodle]

Resale essentially covers it.

Does it? The resale on the Bremont is a lower percentage resale due to the initial discount, but you're only listing the MSRPs. So the numbers as written make it seem like you lose a lot on flipping the Bremont, which isn't really the case.

Also, if you're only interested in the amount of initial outlay, the resale isn't relevant, but the AD discount is.

[1watchaholic]

They are so different beyond being both GMT mvts. One has to be more appealing to you it better fit your lifestyle... How you dress and where you'll wear it and maybe what other watches you have.
Buy whichever one makes the most sense to you given looks and use.

Personnally unless you get a huge discount on the Bremont I'd go with the ExpII plus the GMT hand on the TN looks off to me. Like an afterthought. Add on to the SM500. It's less cohesive to me.

Agree with Brice other than being GMT's these watches are so different in looks. Then we get the Bremont vs. Rolex argument which is like the Seiko vs. Rolex, Orient vs. Rolex, Omega vs Rolex etc. you get the picture. As long as we are talking quality vs quality then everything else is personal style. And to top it off...the ballers here just say screw it and own both!

[Jeep99dad]

MSRP on a the Rolex is $8100
MSRP on the Terranova is $6500...
====================
Resale about 78-85% for the Rolex
Resale for the Bremont 65%
====================

Should probably factor in 15-20% discount from AD on the Bremont versus 0% for the Rolex.

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Good point and that gets into resale as well...

You can get a discount on the explorer

[Jeep99dad]

Also you can get a minty ExpII for about 6-6.2 so that's the way to go IMHO.
In 1-2 years get the TN for 3.5-4k max gently used I bet

[streetracer101]

Resale essentially covers it.

Does it? The resale on the Bremont is a lower percentage resale due to the initial discount, but you're only listing the MSRPs. So the numbers as written make it seem like you lose a lot on flipping the Bremont, which isn't really the case.

Also, if you're only interested in the amount of initial outlay, the resale isn't relevant, but the AD discount is.

Have you ever flipped one? I've flipped 7 of them and none have been easy. Unless your Bremont is the current flavor of the week, they tend to move slower than other brands IMO. I'll also add that I've lost more money on Bremont flips than on other brands and only once was one purchased new.

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[foodle]

Have you ever flipped one? I've flipped 7 of them and none have been easy. Unless your Bremont is the current flavor of the week, they tend to move slower than other brands IMO. I'll also add that I've lost more money on Bremont flips than on other brands and only once was one purchased new.

I haven't ever flipped a Bremont, and I definitely believe that they are harder to sell than a Rolex. But, I still think if we're talking costs, we should have an accurate accounting of what the initial outlay is going to be, factoring in readily available discounts. You can call up a Bremont AD, and they will readily offer 15-20% off most models. Not so with Rolex ADs.