New Seiko Thread

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Re: New Seiko Thread

Post by sierra11b » Wed Jun 17, 2020 4:59 pm

Come to papa! Won’t be long now.

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Re: New Seiko Thread

Post by Morethan1 » Thu Jun 18, 2020 9:13 am

Not sure if this video was posted already but Peter goes into depth comparing all the versions of the 6105 (original, reissue and recreation). Very interesting.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GQ96mRUYOzo

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Re: New Seiko Thread

Post by gonzomantis » Thu Jun 18, 2020 9:52 am

Morethan1 wrote:
Thu Jun 18, 2020 9:13 am
Not sure if this video was posted already but Peter goes into depth comparing all the versions of the 6105 (original, reissue and recreation). Very interesting.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GQ96mRUYOzo
Thanks for sharing that link. It's a great comparison, and brought up some really interesting details.

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Re: New Seiko Thread

Post by mellonb1 » Thu Jun 18, 2020 10:01 am

Interesting to see how closely the case resembles the turtle reissue except for the crown guards. I like it but not for $1,300-$1,400.

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Re: New Seiko Thread

Post by Selym » Thu Jun 18, 2020 10:48 am

mellonb1 wrote:
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I like it but not for $1,300-$1,400.
Exactly. That's probably more than I could sell my 6105 for. :shrug:

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Post by Joeprez » Thu Jun 18, 2020 11:09 am

MSRP is crazy, I will pick one up but for less than $800, hopefully.
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Re: New Seiko Thread

Post by CGSshorty » Thu Jun 18, 2020 11:25 am

Joeprez wrote:MSRP is crazy, I will pick one up but for less than $800, hopefully.
Give it 3 or 4 months.
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Re: New Seiko Thread

Post by sierra11b » Thu Jun 18, 2020 4:13 pm

Morethan1 wrote:
Thu Jun 18, 2020 9:13 am
Not sure if this video was posted already but Peter goes into depth comparing all the versions of the 6105 (original, reissue and recreation). Very interesting.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GQ96mRUYOzo
I watched it and thought maybe I should start doing reviews of things I’ve never handled. :rolleyes: Guy doesn’t say one positive thing about the watch whatsoever making me think he must be a joy to hang out with in person.

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Re: New Seiko Thread

Post by jswing » Fri Jun 19, 2020 9:51 am

CGSshorty wrote:
Wed Jun 17, 2020 12:52 pm
The black 6105 on a rubber strap is going to be great.
I have a tropic waiting for mine and plan to add a tire tread as well. I doubt I'll ever wear it on the bracelet.

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Re: New Seiko Thread

Post by sierra11b » Fri Jun 19, 2020 3:45 pm

jswing wrote:
Fri Jun 19, 2020 9:51 am
CGSshorty wrote:
Wed Jun 17, 2020 12:52 pm
The black 6105 on a rubber strap is going to be great.
I have a tropic waiting for mine and plan to add a tire tread as well. I doubt I'll ever wear it on the bracelet.
Which two straps are you going to purchase? I know little about these straps but am interested

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Post by Steve O. » Fri Jun 19, 2020 11:00 pm

There's only one 6105. Production ceased in 1976/77. All others are just copies and re-issues. IMO if you're going to spend the money, get the real deal. Plus, a 6105 is Not A Fuckin' Turtle.
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Re: New Seiko Thread

Post by jswing » Sat Jun 20, 2020 4:09 am

sierra11b wrote:
Fri Jun 19, 2020 3:45 pm
jswing wrote:
Fri Jun 19, 2020 9:51 am
CGSshorty wrote:
Wed Jun 17, 2020 12:52 pm
The black 6105 on a rubber strap is going to be great.
I have a tropic waiting for mine and plan to add a tire tread as well. I doubt I'll ever wear it on the bracelet.
Which two straps are you going to purchase? I know little about these straps but am interested
I already have an Uncle Seiko tropic strap, but plan to add an Uncle Seiko tire tread. The original Seiko tire tread was OEM for the 6105 for a few years and was my favorite strap for my 6105 when I had it. It doesn't taper like most vintage straps so it feels a bit more substantial.

https://www.uncleseiko.com/store/p30/XG ... --_V2.html

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Re: New Seiko Thread

Post by jswing » Sat Jun 20, 2020 4:21 am

Steve O. wrote:
Fri Jun 19, 2020 11:00 pm
There's only one 6105. Production ceased in 1976/77. All others are just copies and re-issues. IMO if you're going to spend the money, get the real deal. Plus, a 6105 is Not A Fuckin' Turtle.
While I don't disagree with that, I personally don't like wearing vintage watches. I like vintage style, but prefer not having to worry if my watch gets wet, will it break down and need parts I can't find, etc. Not to mention the minefield that is buying a vintage watch. Vintage reissues are my favorite watches, so I guess I'm the target market. I think we can all agree that the 6105 is not a fucking turtle.

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Re: New Seiko Thread

Post by sierra11b » Sat Jun 20, 2020 7:27 am

jswing wrote:
Sat Jun 20, 2020 4:21 am
Steve O. wrote:
Fri Jun 19, 2020 11:00 pm
There's only one 6105. Production ceased in 1976/77. All others are just copies and re-issues. IMO if you're going to spend the money, get the real deal. Plus, a 6105 is Not A Fuckin' Turtle.
While I don't disagree with that, I personally don't like wearing vintage watches. I like vintage style, but prefer not having to worry if my watch gets wet, will it break down and need parts I can't find, etc. Not to mention the minefield that is buying a vintage watch. Vintage reissues are my favorite watches, so I guess I'm the target market. I think we can all agree that the 6105 is not a fucking turtle.
I don’t mind wearing vintage and have been wearing my all original 6139-6005 this week. I bought that watch from the original owner for $350. Try doing that with a 6105 today.

The premium of 6105s today just isn’t worth the headache and by the time you vet the watch and seller it’s already sold. NOW if someone here sold one I would seriously consider.

I’d love to get into a birthyear 6309-7040 as they still can be had for <$600. I’ve been searching for awhile but it’s the same story with the 6105s in that you need to be quick.

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Re: New Seiko Thread

Post by jswing » Sat Jun 20, 2020 8:42 am

sierra11b wrote:
jswing wrote:
Sat Jun 20, 2020 4:21 am
Steve O. wrote:
Fri Jun 19, 2020 11:00 pm
There's only one 6105. Production ceased in 1976/77. All others are just copies and re-issues. IMO if you're going to spend the money, get the real deal. Plus, a 6105 is Not A Fuckin' Turtle.
While I don't disagree with that, I personally don't like wearing vintage watches. I like vintage style, but prefer not having to worry if my watch gets wet, will it break down and need parts I can't find, etc. Not to mention the minefield that is buying a vintage watch. Vintage reissues are my favorite watches, so I guess I'm the target market. I think we can all agree that the 6105 is not a fucking turtle.
I don’t mind wearing vintage and have been wearing my all original 6139-6005 this week. I bought that watch from the original owner for $350. Try doing that with a 6105 today.

The premium of 6105s today just isn’t worth the headache and by the time you vet the watch and seller it’s already sold. NOW if someone here sold one I would seriously consider.

I’d love to get into a birthyear 6309-7040 as they still can be had for <$600. I’ve been searching for awhile but it’s the same story with the 6105s in that you need to be quick.
I bought a 6105 before the prices went nuts. Then I sent it for a service and relume. Got it back after about a year, then didn't want to wear it because it still wasn't water resistant. I love the idea of vintage, but just don't feel comfortable actually wearing them. Had a few near perfect 6309s too. I find myself still looking at them sometimes, but as you said, if they're decent they disappear fast.

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Post by Joeprez » Sat Jun 20, 2020 10:01 am

jswing wrote:
Steve O. wrote:
Fri Jun 19, 2020 11:00 pm
There's only one 6105. Production ceased in 1976/77. All others are just copies and re-issues. IMO if you're going to spend the money, get the real deal. Plus, a 6105 is Not A Fuckin' Turtle.
While I don't disagree with that, I personally don't like wearing vintage watches. I like vintage style, but prefer not having to worry if my watch gets wet, will it break down and need parts I can't find, etc. Not to mention the minefield that is buying a vintage watch. Vintage reissues are my favorite watches, so I guess I'm the target market. I think we can all agree that the 6105 is not a fucking turtle.
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Post by Steve O. » Sat Jun 20, 2020 12:19 pm

Ten, twelve years ago you could buy a nice 6105 for $300-$400 all day long. Of course, as all things, prices change and nothing stays the same. Indicative of the vintage market as a whole.
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Post by Jeep99dad » Sat Jun 20, 2020 12:45 pm

I live the green one but i think the bracelet doesn’t do the black kne justice. I’ll definitely grab one after the prices start coming down a bit
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Post by Steve O. » Sat Jun 20, 2020 2:28 pm

jswing wrote:
Sat Jun 20, 2020 4:21 am
Steve O. wrote:
Fri Jun 19, 2020 11:00 pm
There's only one 6105. Production ceased in 1976/77. All others are just copies and re-issues. IMO if you're going to spend the money, get the real deal. Plus, a 6105 is Not A Fuckin' Turtle.
While I don't disagree with that, I personally don't like wearing vintage watches. I like vintage style, but prefer not having to worry if my watch gets wet, will it break down and need parts I can't find, etc. Not to mention the minefield that is buying a vintage watch. Vintage reissues are my favorite watches, so I guess I'm the target market. I think we can all agree that the 6105 is not a fucking turtle.
Well sure, if you want to get it wet, or swim with it... :lol:
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Jeep99dad wrote:
Sat Jun 20, 2020 12:45 pm
I live the green one but i think the bracelet doesn’t do the black kne justice. I’ll definitely grab one after the prices start coming down a bit
I prefer the black dial, but wouldn’t care for the bracelet. I’m sure this would be a great NATO watch. ISOfrane would look great too.

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Steve O. wrote:
Sat Jun 20, 2020 2:28 pm
jswing wrote:
Sat Jun 20, 2020 4:21 am
Steve O. wrote:
Fri Jun 19, 2020 11:00 pm
There's only one 6105. Production ceased in 1976/77. All others are just copies and re-issues. IMO if you're going to spend the money, get the real deal. Plus, a 6105 is Not A Fuckin' Turtle.
While I don't disagree with that, I personally don't like wearing vintage watches. I like vintage style, but prefer not having to worry if my watch gets wet, will it break down and need parts I can't find, etc. Not to mention the minefield that is buying a vintage watch. Vintage reissues are my favorite watches, so I guess I'm the target market. I think we can all agree that the 6105 is not a fucking turtle.
Well sure, if you want to get it wet, or swim with it... :lol:
Lol. 6159, 6306...I swim with all that vintage shit :lol:

But excited to check out the green 6105 ‘redux’ when it lands.

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Post by HapaHapa » Sun Jun 21, 2020 8:26 am

sierra11b wrote:
Sat Jun 20, 2020 7:27 am
jswing wrote:
Sat Jun 20, 2020 4:21 am
Steve O. wrote:
Fri Jun 19, 2020 11:00 pm
There's only one 6105. Production ceased in 1976/77. All others are just copies and re-issues. IMO if you're going to spend the money, get the real deal. Plus, a 6105 is Not A Fuckin' Turtle.
While I don't disagree with that, I personally don't like wearing vintage watches. I like vintage style, but prefer not having to worry if my watch gets wet, will it break down and need parts I can't find, etc. Not to mention the minefield that is buying a vintage watch. Vintage reissues are my favorite watches, so I guess I'm the target market. I think we can all agree that the 6105 is not a fucking turtle.
I don’t mind wearing vintage and have been wearing my all original 6139-6005 this week. I bought that watch from the original owner for $350. Try doing that with a 6105 today.

The premium of 6105s today just isn’t worth the headache and by the time you vet the watch and seller it’s already sold. NOW if someone here sold one I would seriously consider.

I’d love to get into a birthyear 6309-7040 as they still can be had for <$600. I’ve been searching for awhile but it’s the same story with the 6105s in that you need to be quick.
Same story as “I should have sold my Rolex, it’s now worth 2x or 3x.” I bought and sold a small handful of 6309-7040 about ten years ago. Bought at around $130 for modding and sold at closer to $200 within a year, untouched. And now they are worth 2x or 3x :crybaby: . What amazes me though is how this “old” movement starts up as soon as you pick up the watch, while newer watches need to turned a few times.

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Re: New Seiko Thread

Post by Steve O. » Sun Jun 21, 2020 10:28 am

The 6309 is almost the perfect Seiko. Great design and great movement. You're right, I remember when nice ones were going for $125 or so. I used to sell a lot of them. Not anymore. Once bought a nice example from the original owner complete with original boxes and papers for $150. Now, even jacked up ones in crappy condition, or with aftermarket parts are going for $300. to $500. or more. Shame.
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