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Re: New Seiko Thread

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sierra11b wrote:
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Winner, winner. Except for that price. I'm not a buyer for a mid range Seiko at that price.
It’s a tough pill to swallow, but I’m half way there.

Remember the days of sbdx001 at $1700 with the weakened Yen? And flipping them for $1400-$1500 all day, sometimes numerous times for us flippers. That was less than a decade ago but seems like longer. The

Unfortunately, those days are behind us, unless you’re in the right position for a dwc fire sale, which might need an overdue service.
I have this longstanding, probably unrealistic, notion of the perfect Seiko dive watch beater, a cheap, reliable watch worn without care doing fun stuff. Pretty much what the 6309 would have been in the '70s and '80s. The SKX, Samurais, and NAFTs probably are that modern watch for me. I keep looking for something slightly better, but Seiko is now making those better watches a much more expensive proposition. I am finding my MM200 to be a decent compromise for me--a step up in fit and finish for around $600. I think I'm going to really like the new 6105 and the new MM200 that looks like an MM300, but for street prices around $1000, I might have to pass.

I also can't help but think back to the SBDX001 I had a few years ago that I believe I bought and sold for around $1100--why I didn't keep that watch is frankly beyond me...I think it might have been the fact that it just did not wear well on nylon.

Also, for me, it's clear that these mid-tier Seiko watches offer great dials and cases, but are a step below their counterparts in QC and movements. I've just come to accept that.

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Re: New Seiko Thread

Post by JBZ » Wed Apr 29, 2020 6:02 am

Some nice looking new releases. I'm honestly not sure how Seiko keeps track of all of its different models. Their volume is pretty impressive.
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Re: New Seiko Thread

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The funny thing is how much better it looks compared to the much more expensive LE (better size, bracelet, less bling).
Except for the date surround. I notice on all the "cheaper" re-editions they don't have the raised surround. I get that they have to do something visually to differentiate the LE, but removing the surround does make it look not quite as good to me. Would I pay an extra $3-$4K for the surround? No way, I'm just saying the LEs do still look better to me. Still, I do prefer the size of this new one - I had the LE and it was humungous, bigger than the original.

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Re: New Seiko Thread

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dukerules wrote:
Wed Apr 29, 2020 4:24 am
sierra11b wrote:
Tue Apr 28, 2020 8:58 pm
dukerules wrote:
Tue Apr 28, 2020 2:40 pm
Winner, winner. Except for that price. I'm not a buyer for a mid range Seiko at that price.
It’s a tough pill to swallow, but I’m half way there.

Remember the days of sbdx001 at $1700 with the weakened Yen? And flipping them for $1400-$1500 all day, sometimes numerous times for us flippers. That was less than a decade ago but seems like longer. The

Unfortunately, those days are behind us, unless you’re in the right position for a dwc fire sale, which might need an overdue service.
I have this longstanding, probably unrealistic, notion of the perfect Seiko dive watch beater, a cheap, reliable watch worn without care doing fun stuff. Pretty much what the 6309 would have been in the '70s and '80s. The SKX, Samurais, and NAFTs probably are that modern watch for me. I keep looking for something slightly better, but Seiko is now making those better watches a much more expensive proposition. I am finding my MM200 to be a decent compromise for me--a step up in fit and finish for around $600. I think I'm going to really like the new 6105 and the new MM200 that looks like an MM300, but for street prices around $1000, I might have to pass.

I also can't help but think back to the SBDX001 I had a few years ago that I believe I bought and sold for around $1100--why I didn't keep that watch is frankly beyond me...I think it might have been the fact that it just did not wear well on nylon.

Also, for me, it's clear that these mid-tier Seiko watches offer great dials and cases, but are a step below their counterparts in QC and movements. I've just come to accept that.
Yep, I think you hit the nail in the head with your comment. I haven't been in this hobbie as long as a lot of you, but after almost ten years and going through the "Seiko 5 / cheap micro" phase up to Rolex / Omega and some plus $2k smaller brands and micros... finding a solid beater that we actually want to wear is no easy task (because, lets face it, we are broken men :crybaby: ). The new NAFT and the MM200 is where I'm at right now too in terms of bang for your buck and "coolness", and Tuna or Solar Tuna if you want quartz (hopefully the Arnie too, but need to try one first).

Now, to do a 180... I won't be able to live with myself if I don't try this:

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The size, the color, 70hr power reserve... I need to check it out and see how it wears compares with a NAFT. Plus, I'm not a fan of the "day" complication in the Seiko divers... really prefer "date" only.
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Re: New Seiko Thread

Post by TSD » Wed Apr 29, 2020 8:13 am

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The size, the color, 70hr power reserve... I need to check it out and see how it wears compares with a NAFT. Plus, I'm not a fan of the "day" complication in the Seiko divers... really prefer "date" only.
I saw very SKX-like specs of 42.6mm case with 20mm lugs. It’s a looker. :thumbsup:

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Re: New Seiko Thread

Post by dukerules » Wed Apr 29, 2020 9:02 am

Those specs are great. I think these are going to be super tempting, even priced as they are.

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Re: New Seiko Thread

Post by sierra11b » Wed Apr 29, 2020 9:12 am

If I can sell my Skywalker I’ll use some of the money to place a deposit on the black one.

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Post by CGSshorty » Wed Apr 29, 2020 10:20 am

I’ll be getting the green one. They nailed it, right down to the perfect strap choice.
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New Seiko Thread

Post by BBK357 » Wed Apr 29, 2020 1:31 pm

I sold 3 MM300 for $1100-$1300. The $1100 was maybe two years ago.
Wish I would have kept it at that price.


The new Seiko is Hot. But I agree w Rahul that it’s overpriced for a mid-range X model.
Being that it seems to be a perfect rendition of a 6105 makes it probably worth it.

I’ll wait till next year on the used market.

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Re: New Seiko Thread

Post by Panerai7 » Wed Apr 29, 2020 1:35 pm

Green for me as well. Unique and very Seiko

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Re: New Seiko Thread

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BBK357 wrote:I sold 3 MM300 for $1100-$1300. The $1100 was maybe two years ago.
Wish I would have kept it at that price.


The new Seiko is Hot. But I agree w Rahul that it’s overpriced for a mid-range X model.
Being that it seems to be a perfect rendition of a 6105 makes it probably worth it.

I’ll wait till next year on the used market.

Ugh/...
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Yep you sold it to Dan, and I bought it from him for under $1200.

I like these new models, but I cannot justify paying over a grand for anything with a 6r movement.

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Re: New Seiko Thread

Post by Panerai7 » Wed Apr 29, 2020 2:28 pm

59yukon01 wrote:
Wed Apr 29, 2020 1:48 pm
BBK357 wrote:I sold 3 MM300 for $1100-$1300. The $1100 was maybe two years ago.
Wish I would have kept it at that price.


The new Seiko is Hot. But I agree w Rahul that it’s overpriced for a mid-range X model.
Being that it seems to be a perfect rendition of a 6105 makes it probably worth it.

I’ll wait till next year on the used market.

Ugh/...
So nice
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Yep you sold it to Dan, and I bought it from him for under $1200.

I like these new models, but I cannot justify paying over a grand for anything with a 6r movement.
Btw is that MSRP or after discount from Seyia, etc

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Re: New Seiko Thread

Post by Joeprez » Wed Apr 29, 2020 2:51 pm

MSRP... $1,300 with bracelet, $1,100 on rubber.
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Re: New Seiko Thread

Post by Chocodove » Wed Apr 29, 2020 2:52 pm

I assume actual market price will be $800-900 for a while and then they’ll sell for under $700. Just like most versions of the MM200.
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Post by CGSshorty » Wed Apr 29, 2020 2:56 pm

Chocodove wrote:I assume actual market price will be $800-900 for a while and then they’ll sell for under $700. Just like most versions of the MM200.
They’re not limited in any way, so prices will settle in after a few months.
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Re: New Seiko Thread

Post by Panerai7 » Wed Apr 29, 2020 5:08 pm

CGSshorty wrote:
Wed Apr 29, 2020 2:56 pm
Chocodove wrote:I assume actual market price will be $800-900 for a while and then they’ll sell for under $700. Just like most versions of the MM200.
They’re not limited in any way, so prices will settle in after a few months.
So let’s say for about 800 on a strap right in like with Shogun

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Re: New Seiko Thread

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CGSshorty wrote:
Wed Apr 29, 2020 2:56 pm
Chocodove wrote:I assume actual market price will be $800-900 for a while and then they’ll sell for under $700. Just like most versions of the MM200.
They’re not limited in any way, so prices will settle in after a few months.

I would normally wait but placed a deposit today for the black one. :cheers:

Stimulus came today and it was way more than I had calculated (full amount), my 15yr mortgage was finalized today at 3% with a skipped payment for next month saving us about 100k in interest vs. our old first and second (with balloon! :shock:

Today was a good day. Just have to pray a meteor doesn’t strike me and my family dead while isolating.

Excited for this watch. Feels like a Rolex incoming.

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Re: New Seiko Thread

Post by Panerai7 » Thu Apr 30, 2020 6:11 pm

sierra11b wrote:
Wed Apr 29, 2020 5:24 pm
CGSshorty wrote:
Wed Apr 29, 2020 2:56 pm
Chocodove wrote:I assume actual market price will be $800-900 for a while and then they’ll sell for under $700. Just like most versions of the MM200.
They’re not limited in any way, so prices will settle in after a few months.

I would normally wait but placed a deposit today for the black one. :cheers:

Stimulus came today and it was way more than I had calculated (full amount), my 15yr mortgage was finalized today at 3% with a skipped payment for next month saving us about 100k in interest vs. our old first and second (with balloon! :shock:

Today was a good day. Just have to pray a meteor doesn’t strike me and my family dead while isolating.

Excited for this watch. Feels like a Rolex incoming.
Congrats
So where is everyone getting theirs?

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Re: New Seiko Thread

Post by BBK357 » Thu Apr 30, 2020 7:00 pm

Panerai7 wrote:
sierra11b wrote:
Wed Apr 29, 2020 5:24 pm
CGSshorty wrote:
Wed Apr 29, 2020 2:56 pm
Chocodove wrote:I assume actual market price will be $800-900 for a while and then they’ll sell for under $700. Just like most versions of the MM200.
They’re not limited in any way, so prices will settle in after a few months.

I would normally wait but placed a deposit today for the black one. :cheers:

Stimulus came today and it was way more than I had calculated (full amount), my 15yr mortgage was finalized today at 3% with a skipped payment for next month saving us about 100k in interest vs. our old first and second (with balloon! :shock:

Today was a good day. Just have to pray a meteor doesn’t strike me and my family dead while isolating.

Excited for this watch. Feels like a Rolex incoming.
Congrats
So where is everyone getting theirs?
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Re: New Seiko Thread

Post by Joeprez » Thu Apr 30, 2020 7:14 pm

BBK357 wrote:
Thu Apr 30, 2020 7:00 pm
Panerai7 wrote:
sierra11b wrote:
Wed Apr 29, 2020 5:24 pm
CGSshorty wrote:
Wed Apr 29, 2020 2:56 pm
Chocodove wrote:I assume actual market price will be $800-900 for a while and then they’ll sell for under $700. Just like most versions of the MM200.
They’re not limited in any way, so prices will settle in after a few months.

I would normally wait but placed a deposit today for the black one. :cheers:

Stimulus came today and it was way more than I had calculated (full amount), my 15yr mortgage was finalized today at 3% with a skipped payment for next month saving us about 100k in interest vs. our old first and second (with balloon! :shock:

Today was a good day. Just have to pray a meteor doesn’t strike me and my family dead while isolating.

Excited for this watch. Feels like a Rolex incoming.
Congrats
So where is everyone getting theirs?
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Same here :cheers:
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Re: New Seiko Thread

Post by jswing » Fri May 01, 2020 6:36 am

Joeprez wrote:
Thu Apr 30, 2020 7:14 pm
BBK357 wrote:
Thu Apr 30, 2020 7:00 pm
Panerai7 wrote:
sierra11b wrote:
Wed Apr 29, 2020 5:24 pm
CGSshorty wrote:
Wed Apr 29, 2020 2:56 pm
Chocodove wrote:I assume actual market price will be $800-900 for a while and then they’ll sell for under $700. Just like most versions of the MM200.
They’re not limited in any way, so prices will settle in after a few months.

I would normally wait but placed a deposit today for the black one. :cheers:

Stimulus came today and it was way more than I had calculated (full amount), my 15yr mortgage was finalized today at 3% with a skipped payment for next month saving us about 100k in interest vs. our old first and second (with balloon! :shock:

Today was a good day. Just have to pray a meteor doesn’t strike me and my family dead while isolating.

Excited for this watch. Feels like a Rolex incoming.
Congrats
So where is everyone getting theirs?
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Same here :cheers:
I tell myself that, but I'll be that one that gets impatient and buys it before the price settles down. I'm going to try to hold off, but history says I won't.. :rolleyes:

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Re: New Seiko Thread

Post by jtbenson » Fri May 01, 2020 7:05 am

:lol:

jeff "early adopter" swing for sure
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Re: New Seiko Thread

Post by sierra11b » Fri May 01, 2020 7:55 am

Topper has a pre order if you call. Resistance is futile! Join me!

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Re: New Seiko Thread

Post by jswing » Fri May 01, 2020 9:16 am

sierra11b wrote:
Fri May 01, 2020 7:55 am
Topper has a pre order if you call. Resistance is futile! Join me!

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I'm a fan of Topper, but I'll probably get mine from Japan since I get a good discount from my AD there. So far I haven't found the corresponding Japan market version though, should be SBDCsomething. But yeah, the resistance is futile!

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Re: New Seiko Thread

Post by jswing » Fri May 01, 2020 9:17 am

jtbenson wrote:
Fri May 01, 2020 7:05 am
:lol:

jeff "early adopter" swing for sure
Somebody's got to do it, or else there wouldn't be any FS later on DWC! :lol:

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