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by husabergangola » Sat Feb 16, 2019 12:51 pm
Torrid wrote:Selym wrote: ↑Sat Feb 16, 2019 10:50 am
Anyone know what the MSRP of a 6105 was back in the day? I wonder what it would be today, adjusted for inflation.
A quick search showed $175 in 1969 if that was accurate. The calculator I found said that would be just over $1200 today.
A rolex submariner in 1957 was $150
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by Selym » Sat Feb 16, 2019 2:01 pm
Torrid wrote: ↑Sat Feb 16, 2019 11:05 am
Selym wrote: ↑Sat Feb 16, 2019 10:50 am
Anyone know what the MSRP of a 6105 was back in the day? I wonder what it would be today, adjusted for inflation.
A quick search showed $175 in 1969 if that was accurate. The calculator I found said that would be just over $1200 today.
So, not in SKX007 territory, but not "high end", either.
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by Jeep99dad » Sat Feb 16, 2019 2:51 pm
I absolutely love it, I 2-3k love it
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by Torrid » Sat Feb 16, 2019 7:07 pm
Selym wrote: ↑Sat Feb 16, 2019 2:01 pm
Torrid wrote: ↑Sat Feb 16, 2019 11:05 am
Selym wrote: ↑Sat Feb 16, 2019 10:50 am
Anyone know what the MSRP of a 6105 was back in the day? I wonder what it would be today, adjusted for inflation.
A quick search showed $175 in 1969 if that was accurate. The calculator I found said that would be just over $1200 today.
So, not in SKX007 territory, but not "high end", either.
Exactly. For around MM300 territory or less I'd be very tempted. For what this will likely come out for I'll just buy another MM300 and call it even. I like the 6105 and the so called Turtle, but for a pricier but somewhat reasonable diver the MM300 is going to win.
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by hoppyjr » Sat Feb 16, 2019 11:20 pm
Since the 62mas reissue used the same movement and was mid-$3k range, I expect this one to land in the $3500-4000 ballpark.
I had the Timefactors Precista copy a while back and really liked how it felt on the wrist, but it used normal 20mm lug width.
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by ikkoku » Sun Feb 17, 2019 1:00 am
Is it out yet? Just arrived in Osaka. Will see if I can find one.
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by husabergangola » Sun Feb 17, 2019 1:44 am
ikkoku wrote:Is it out yet? Just arrived in Osaka. Will see if I can find one.
Only in next july
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by sierra11b » Sun Feb 17, 2019 1:01 pm
Damn you Seiko.
Do want but there’s no way.
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by CesarG » Mon Feb 18, 2019 2:23 pm
62MAS reissue > 6105 reissue
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by sierra11b » Mon Feb 18, 2019 9:19 pm
JP Chestnut wrote: ↑Fri Feb 15, 2019 5:22 pm
Torrid wrote: ↑Fri Feb 15, 2019 5:19 pm
toxicavenger wrote: ↑Fri Feb 15, 2019 4:58 pm
it looks like they are using that same shit crown lock design. that is a disappointment. i am sure this will be like the 62mas re-edition and cost over 3k
Maybe they’ll make a more affordable 6R version like the other new models more in line with the cost most of us would prefer to pay for a Seiko.
Yes. They will decrease the price by 70%, while making it 20% less good looking and 30% larger.
I often wonder if the NAFT was a successful mistake for this reason. Why didn’t they make a $3k 6309 instead?
I’ll never understand seiko... I get the expensive 62mas reissue but they could have made a fortune with this watch using the 6 series movement.
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by maki57 » Mon Feb 18, 2019 11:48 pm
Torrid wrote: ↑Fri Feb 15, 2019 5:19 pm
toxicavenger wrote: ↑Fri Feb 15, 2019 4:58 pm
it looks like they are using that same shit crown lock design. that is a disappointment. i am sure this will be like the 62mas re-edition and cost over 3k
Maybe they’ll make a more affordable 6R version like the other new models more in line with the cost most of us would prefer to pay for a Seiko.
At most, they should've made it as just a 6R model like the SRP Turtle and Samurai reissues were just released as 4R models.
From what I've seen, everything that made that watch great stems, in one way or another, from the fact that it was affordable to begin with and I wish they kept to that.
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by Selym » Tue Feb 19, 2019 11:11 am
maki57 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 18, 2019 11:48 pm
From what I've seen, everything that made that watch great stems, in one way or another, from the fact that it was affordable to begin with and I wish they kept to that.
That's the impression I got, too. It was a more affordable alternative to the Rolex Submariner. The 6105 was a blue-collar dive watch.
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by River Rat » Wed Feb 20, 2019 2:46 pm
Any one who pays 3000 bucks a idiot when a vintage one the original is cheaper. Think a vintage one can still be had for 700-800 for one that needs work and 1000-2000 for one in perfect and serviced condition. Here is mine got less than 500 in it when you could get a fixer upper for under 300 had Jack relume it has a watchmaker service it and replace the crystal I supplied still keeping great time. Any one ever notice the originals stay in the collection longer than reissue's ?
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by Torrid » Wed Feb 20, 2019 5:55 pm
Seppia wrote: ↑Wed Feb 20, 2019 5:50 pm
Mike if you know where to get an original in excellent and serviced condition I would appreciate if you pointed me in that direction.
Thanks!
I bet these originals are going to get crazy with this releasing. They're a bit pricey now but reasonable in comparison.
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by Selym » Wed Feb 20, 2019 6:11 pm
Seppia wrote: ↑Wed Feb 20, 2019 5:50 pm
Mike if you know where to get an original in excellent and serviced condition I would appreciate if you pointed me in that direction.
Thanks!
I own one that the previous owner had restored by IWW. It isn't perfect, but it looks good and runs well for a nearly 46-year-old watch. That said, I would gladly trade it for the reissue if I could. Why? The reissue is brand new, and likely a technological improvement over the watch it pays homage to.
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by aikiman44 » Wed Feb 20, 2019 6:18 pm
Uncle Seiko has had a couple for sale. I think he’s got one now.
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by toxicavenger » Wed Feb 20, 2019 7:23 pm
Selym wrote: ↑Wed Feb 20, 2019 6:11 pm
Seppia wrote: ↑Wed Feb 20, 2019 5:50 pm
Mike if you know where to get an original in excellent and serviced condition I would appreciate if you pointed me in that direction.
Thanks!
I own one that the previous owner had restored by IWW. It isn't perfect, but it looks good and runs well for a nearly 46-year-old watch. That said, I would gladly trade it for the reissue if I could. Why? The reissue is brand new, and likely a technological improvement over the watch it pays homage to.
That watch looks dope!
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by Selym » Wed Feb 20, 2019 7:25 pm
toxicavenger wrote: ↑Wed Feb 20, 2019 7:23 pm
That watch looks dope!
Thanks! I'm happy with it. IWW did a nice job on it.
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by toxicavenger » Wed Feb 20, 2019 7:30 pm
Selym wrote: ↑Wed Feb 20, 2019 7:25 pm
toxicavenger wrote: ↑Wed Feb 20, 2019 7:23 pm
That watch looks dope!
Thanks! I'm happy with it. IWW did a nice job on it.
He did do amazing work. I miss him!!!
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by gonzomantis » Wed Feb 20, 2019 7:37 pm
Jack worked on mine, too. It was in rough shape when I got it, but new lime, crystal, and a movement service brought it back from the dead.
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by toxicavenger » Wed Feb 20, 2019 7:40 pm
gonzomantis wrote: ↑Wed Feb 20, 2019 7:37 pm
Jack worked on mine, too. It was in rough shape when I got it, but new lime, crystal, and a movement service brought it back from the dead.
He did a bunch of 6309's and 7548's for me
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by BBK357 » Wed Feb 20, 2019 7:46 pm
My first vintage run was with Seiko.
I had a handful of dime piece 6105’s. I’m talking all white lume and no hand oxidation.
Those ran $500-$700 at the time.
Now a great condition 6105 is $1500 +.
I am sorry, but paying over $1000 for a 6105 is dumb. They are great looking but the movements are not as rock solid as newer Seiko. They don’t hold great time and not very shock resistant. Parts are hard to find... if you’re paying 2k for a 6105 then you have too much money.
Seiko charging submariner price for their new watches is hilarious- and it’s even funnier that people are paying $5000 for these new re issue Seiko.
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by toxicavenger » Wed Feb 20, 2019 7:48 pm
BBK357 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 20, 2019 7:46 pm
My first vintage run was with Seiko.
I had a handful of dime piece 6105’s. I’m talking all white lume and no hand oxidation.
Those ran $500-$700 at the time.
Now a great condition 6105 is $1500 +.
I am sorry, but paying over $1000 for a 6105 is dumb. They are great looking but the movements are not as rock solid as newer Seiko. They don’t hold great time and not very shock resistant. Parts are hard to find... if you’re paying 2k for a 6105 then you have too much money.
Seiko charging submariner price for their new watches is hilarious- and it’s even funnier that people are paying $5000 for these new re issue Seiko.
not mention the shitty crown system on it.
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by dukerules » Wed Feb 20, 2019 7:49 pm
BBK357 wrote:My first vintage run was with Seiko.
I had a handful of dime piece 6105’s. I’m talking all white lume and no hand oxidation.
Those ran $500-$700 at the time.
Now a great condition 6105 is $1500 +.
I am sorry, but paying over $1000 for a 6105 is dumb. They are great looking but the movements are not as rock solid as newer Seiko. They don’t hold great time and not very shock resistant. Parts are hard to find... if you’re paying 2k for a 6105 then you have too much money.
Seiko charging submariner price for their new watches is hilarious- and it’s even funnier that people are paying $5000 for these new re issue Seiko.
Hard to argue with this.
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by YOHOHO » Wed Feb 20, 2019 8:03 pm
I got on that preorder, but I doubt I'll stay in through delivery. I have a very nice original 6105 and was thinking the modern would make for a nice pair...not sure at this potential price point, though. All watches are becoming too expensive - hard for me to justify any purchases lately. Almost feel like just selling everything. Especially, since I work from home and rarely even wear a damn watch.
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