New MM300 (SLA021/SBDX023)
New MM300 (SLA021/SBDX023)
Anyone tempted? I've told myself I can own only one chunky dive watch, and the U1 Professional isn't going anywhere. My previous MM300 didn't last long, and this one likely wouldn't either. Too thick and wears unbalanced to me, and never worked well on NATOs, which was a deal-breaker for me, and evidently this one is even thicker than its predecessors. And I know that that cheesy Prospex logo is found on dozens of low-end Seiko dive watches (although to be fair the "Marinemaster" font has always looked like something pulled off an early-90s word processing program to me). But I love the sapphire crystal and ceramic bezel, the gold lettering on the dial and the gold seconds hands, the larger indices, and the deeper black dial. So much so that I was *this* close to pulling the trigger on one (for about 25% off MSRP) yesterday.
Pictures from Gnomon.
Pictures from Gnomon.
Re: New MM300 (SLA021/SBDX023)
I dig it. Love the upgrades. What was the price?
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Around $2300. Seems like a lot when I bought and sold an SBDX001 for about $1100 a couple of years ago.
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The original is still of the best dive watches ever made IMO.
This is that watch with some upgrades...there is very little not to like
This is that watch with some upgrades...there is very little not to like
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$1100 was when the Yen took a nose dive. Used I think sbdx001’s are around $1500-1700 now. I like it, but probably not at $2300.dukerules wrote:Around $2300. Seems like a lot when I bought and sold an SBDX001 for about $1100 a couple of years ago.
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Did they really make it thicker? It looks great but the original was already too topheavy for me.
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I like it a lot. The gold seconds hand looks great, IMO. I know a lot of people don’t like it.
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I believe it's about a half mm thicker. This despite the fact that the crystal is now totally flat on top.dnslater wrote:Did they really make it thicker? It looks great but the original was already too topheavy for me.
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Tempted and was actually looking at wrist shots of my last couple 001's trying to convince myself that the 023 will stick this time. Being $2,300-$2,500 and being too damn top heavy will ultimately keep me from picking this one up but it's so tempting.
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dukerules wrote:Around $2300. Seems like a lot when I bought and sold an SBDX001 for about $1100 a couple of years ago.
Agree.
I bought and sold 3 SBDX001 from $1000-$1150 over a 2 or 3 year span.
I feel like all the MM300 jumped up in price last year- even the used ones that were once $1000. My only guess is the never ending rumors about stopping production. Which happens with nearly every Seiko model.
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All the people that complained about it not being worth the money since it didn't have sapphire or ceramic got there wish. Now it's even thicker.
Sometimes it's best to just leave well enough alone. Personally after seeing these "supposed" improvements I'm glad I've got an older one.
Sometimes it's best to just leave well enough alone. Personally after seeing these "supposed" improvements I'm glad I've got an older one.
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Yeah, my crafty retirement plan is the half dozen SKX007s I have.dukerules wrote:My only guess is the never ending rumors about stopping production. Which happens with nearly every Seiko model.
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I see the sapphire and ceramic as upgrades and like the subtle differences compared to the 001/017. If they settle around $2250-$2300 new, I think it’s a reasonable increase. The last 017 I bought new was around $1950.
It’s still too thick, though .
It’s still too thick, though .
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I really like this one but it's true, this one is a bit thicker than the last. It really did kill wearing it on NATOs for long periods of time. I liked the way the MM300 wore otherwise on rubber straps and occasionally on the bracelet. I have considered this new one and I do see it as an upgrade, but I hadn't paid attention to this one until it officially released and I'm not parting with $2k+ on such short notice. Maybe down the road, but I'm still not 100% on this one. As much as I liked the last if you ignore price and pay attention only to proportions, the SKX007 and the SRP777 NAFT wear better. If they could slim a couple of mm's from the thickness of the case of the MM300 instead of adding more Seiko may have the perfect diver.
Gold accents are perfect. Surprisingly I'm not bothered by the loss of the Marinemaster script.
Gold accents are perfect. Surprisingly I'm not bothered by the loss of the Marinemaster script.
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I tried it on in the NYC boutique, it wasn't for me and I was a MM fanboi. I think with the ceramic bezel it is too flashy. Also the watch seemed bigger.
I was more impressed by these two
I was more impressed by these two
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O love my green
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Re: New MM300 (SLA021/SBDX023)
I prefer my OG MM300 to the new one, but these SBDC models are something I'd like to see in person. The thinner case appeals to me.
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If the new MM300 is thicker/top heavy, then it doesn’t matter if it looks great or has a better crystal. It’s going to sit in your watch box unworn.
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I agree with this.....for me at least. I absolutely love how the watch looks, pictures, handling it, etc. Its rock solid, unfortunately I don't enjoy wearing it near as much as I like looking at it.HapaHapa wrote:If the new MM300 is thicker/top heavy, then it doesn’t matter if it looks great or has a better crystal. It’s going to sit in your watch box unworn.
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I like the new ones touches and even the original one over the 6R15 powered model, but I like the proportions so much better with the 6R15 that I've strongly considered trying one.
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MM on the top
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Great photo. Would love to see this photo with the SBDC051 added to the mix. The problem with the MM300 is that Seiko has been releasing newer divers with better bracelets and similar finishing at a fraction of the cost - and they wear better.
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This is exactly it. Even before all of these new divers started releasing I had a SARX and the difference in bracelet fit and finish was appallingly bad on the MM300 in comparison. While the finish of the MM300 bracelet is better than the NAFTs, the fit isn't and considering the massive price difference that's less than acceptable.
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SBDC051 wears like an absolute dream. Sinks into the wrist, which the MM300 does not.
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