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Duarte has a NE15 for sale

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Post by 59yukon01 » Sat Jul 21, 2018 8:28 pm

Tempting, and he's told me he can do a swap, and then use the signed 6r15 rotor from my erratic movement.

Would be cheaper, and faster, than a service.

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59yukon01 wrote:
Sat Jul 21, 2018 8:28 pm
Tempting, and he's told me he can do a swap, and then use the signed 6r15 rotor from my erratic movement.

Would be cheaper, and faster, than a service.
definitely a better option. and this movement doesn't have the issues the og 6r15 does have

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toxicavenger wrote:
59yukon01 wrote:
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Tempting, and he's told me he can do a swap, and then use the signed 6r15 rotor from my erratic movement.

Would be cheaper, and faster, than a service.
definitely a better option. and this movement doesn't have the issues the og 6r15 does have
Really? I always thought they were exactly the same, except for the signed rotor? Were improvements made?

Kinda why I've not already had it done as I was afraid I'd end up with similar issues.

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Post by hoppyjr » Sat Jul 21, 2018 9:33 pm

That link takes me to a 2013 WRUW thread.

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Post by toxicavenger » Sat Jul 21, 2018 9:54 pm

59yukon01 wrote:
Sat Jul 21, 2018 9:19 pm
toxicavenger wrote:
59yukon01 wrote:
Sat Jul 21, 2018 8:28 pm
Tempting, and he's told me he can do a swap, and then use the signed 6r15 rotor from my erratic movement.

Would be cheaper, and faster, than a service.
definitely a better option. and this movement doesn't have the issues the og 6r15 does have
Really? I always thought they were exactly the same, except for the signed rotor? Were improvements made?

Kinda why I've not already had it done as I was afraid I'd end up with similar issues.
Pretty positive Spencer said there were improvements made. He would know if anyone would. Or ask Duarte, he is a smart dude.

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Post by sierra11b » Sat Jul 21, 2018 10:14 pm

Been more than happy with Duarte’s work. Switching the problematic 6r15 for this might be worthwhile for those wanting auto, but I’d source the venerable 7c46 and do a full swap with Duarte instead.

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Post by sierra11b » Sat Jul 21, 2018 10:17 pm

Been more than happy with Duarte’s work. Switching the problematic 6r15 for this might be worthwhile for those wanting auto, but I’d source the venerable 7c46 and do a full swap with Duarte instead.

Not sure it would fit? But if so sell the complete 6r15 outright. Someone will buy if the price is right.

Would be great if someone did the new 6r15 mm with high torque 7c46 and original mm300 hands.

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Re: Duarte has a NE15 for sale

Post by Panerai7 » Sun Jul 22, 2018 10:38 am

I must be new but what's wrong with 6r15 anyway?
I've had shogun for a few months and other Seiko watches with that movement and didn't notice anything

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Re: Duarte has a NE15 for sale

Post by toxicavenger » Sun Jul 22, 2018 10:48 am

Panerai7 wrote:
Sun Jul 22, 2018 10:38 am
I must be new but what's wrong with 6r15 anyway?
I've had shogun for a few months and other Seiko watches with that movement and didn't notice anything
They are hit or miss on reliability and accuracy. The newer D versions are improved if I recall.

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Post by toxicavenger » Sun Jul 22, 2018 10:49 am

sierra11b wrote:
Sat Jul 21, 2018 10:17 pm
Been more than happy with Duarte’s work. Switching the problematic 6r15 for this might be worthwhile for those wanting auto, but I’d source the venerable 7c46 and do a full swap with Duarte instead.

Not sure it would fit? But if so sell the complete 6r15 outright. Someone will buy if the price is right.

Would be great if someone did the new 6r15 mm with high torque 7c46 and original mm300 hands.
Eric, have you ever seen a 7c46 movement for sale? I think I have seen 2 in 10 years for sale.

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Post by sierra11b » Sun Jul 22, 2018 11:18 am

There’s a few for sale now if I search “7c46 movement” on eBay.

Sorry my cell phone won’t let me link them here

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Re: Duarte has a NE15 for sale

Post by sierra11b » Sun Jul 22, 2018 12:18 pm

toxicavenger wrote:
Sun Jul 22, 2018 10:49 am
sierra11b wrote:
Sat Jul 21, 2018 10:17 pm
Been more than happy with Duarte’s work. Switching the problematic 6r15 for this might be worthwhile for those wanting auto, but I’d source the venerable 7c46 and do a full swap with Duarte instead.

Not sure it would fit? But if so sell the complete 6r15 outright. Someone will buy if the price is right.

Would be great if someone did the new 6r15 mm with high torque 7c46 and original mm300 hands.
Eric, have you ever seen a 7c46 movement for sale? I think I have seen 2 in 10 years for sale.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Original-movem ... 3511780287

https://www.ebay.com/itm/ORIGINAL-SEIKO ... 3201865033

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Re: Duarte has a NE15 for sale

Post by Panerai7 » Sun Jul 22, 2018 12:18 pm

toxicavenger wrote:
Sun Jul 22, 2018 10:48 am
Panerai7 wrote:
Sun Jul 22, 2018 10:38 am
I must be new but what's wrong with 6r15 anyway?
I've had shogun for a few months and other Seiko watches with that movement and didn't notice anything
They are hit or miss on reliability and accuracy. The newer D versions are improved if I recall.
Good to know 👍

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Re: Duarte has a NE15 for sale

Post by Torrid » Sun Jul 22, 2018 12:44 pm

toxicavenger wrote:
Sun Jul 22, 2018 10:48 am
Panerai7 wrote:
Sun Jul 22, 2018 10:38 am
I must be new but what's wrong with 6r15 anyway?
I've had shogun for a few months and other Seiko watches with that movement and didn't notice anything
They are hit or miss on reliability and accuracy. The newer D versions are improved if I recall.
My SARB has the 6R15D. It’s a bit more consistent when worn than my previous ones, but it still loses time like crazy until it gets to full wind. I love Seiko’s style at this price point, but I’d buy another Hamilton with the 80 Hr power reserve over another 6R15. Really want another Khaki and every one I’ve owned has been crazy consistent regardless of the level of wind.

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Post by Selym » Sun Jul 22, 2018 5:03 pm

Torrid wrote:
Sun Jul 22, 2018 12:44 pm

My SARB has the 6R15D. It’s a bit more consistent when worn than my previous ones, but it still loses time like crazy until it gets to full wind. I love Seiko’s style at this price point, but I’d buy another Hamilton with the 80 Hr power reserve over another 6R15. Really want another Khaki and every one I’ve owned has been crazy consistent regardless of the level of wind.
The 2824-2 is capable of excellent timekeeping. The 8L35 is, too. In my experience, the 6R15 is nothing more than a 7S26 with hacking, hand-winding, and a longer PR.

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Post by Torrid » Sun Jul 22, 2018 6:14 pm

Selym wrote:
Sun Jul 22, 2018 5:03 pm
Torrid wrote:
Sun Jul 22, 2018 12:44 pm

My SARB has the 6R15D. It’s a bit more consistent when worn than my previous ones, but it still loses time like crazy until it gets to full wind. I love Seiko’s style at this price point, but I’d buy another Hamilton with the 80 Hr power reserve over another 6R15. Really want another Khaki and every one I’ve owned has been crazy consistent regardless of the level of wind.
The 2824-2 is capable of excellent timekeeping. The 8L35 is, too. In my experience, the 6R15 is nothing more than a 7S26 with hacking, hand-winding, and a longer PR.
That’s very much true. Unfortunately I had hairspring issues with the 8L35 too. I love Seiko, but I just have more confidence in Swiss options these days.

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Re: Duarte has a NE15 for sale

Post by toxicavenger » Sun Jul 22, 2018 6:29 pm

Torrid wrote:
Sun Jul 22, 2018 6:14 pm
Selym wrote:
Sun Jul 22, 2018 5:03 pm
Torrid wrote:
Sun Jul 22, 2018 12:44 pm

My SARB has the 6R15D. It’s a bit more consistent when worn than my previous ones, but it still loses time like crazy until it gets to full wind. I love Seiko’s style at this price point, but I’d buy another Hamilton with the 80 Hr power reserve over another 6R15. Really want another Khaki and every one I’ve owned has been crazy consistent regardless of the level of wind.
The 2824-2 is capable of excellent timekeeping. The 8L35 is, too. In my experience, the 6R15 is nothing more than a 7S26 with hacking, hand-winding, and a longer PR.
That’s very much true. Unfortunately I had hairspring issues with the 8L35 too. I love Seiko, but I just have more confidence in Swiss options these days.
So do I. At least getting parts are easier. :tap:

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Re: Duarte has a NE15 for sale

Post by toxicavenger » Sun Jul 22, 2018 6:29 pm

sierra11b wrote:
Sun Jul 22, 2018 12:18 pm
toxicavenger wrote:
Sun Jul 22, 2018 10:49 am
sierra11b wrote:
Sat Jul 21, 2018 10:17 pm
Been more than happy with Duarte’s work. Switching the problematic 6r15 for this might be worthwhile for those wanting auto, but I’d source the venerable 7c46 and do a full swap with Duarte instead.

Not sure it would fit? But if so sell the complete 6r15 outright. Someone will buy if the price is right.

Would be great if someone did the new 6r15 mm with high torque 7c46 and original mm300 hands.
Eric, have you ever seen a 7c46 movement for sale? I think I have seen 2 in 10 years for sale.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Original-movem ... 3511780287

https://www.ebay.com/itm/ORIGINAL-SEIKO ... 3201865033
Nice. Maybe send Spencer and email and see if he knows if it would fit. :salute:

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Re: Duarte has a NE15 for sale

Post by 59yukon01 » Sun Jul 22, 2018 8:18 pm

Maybe a dumb question, but can I assume you could test the timing of a movement on a timegrapher to get an idea of its performance before buying?

I realize it would probably be different after a finished install, but just wondered.

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Post by toxicavenger » Sun Jul 22, 2018 8:20 pm

59yukon01 wrote:
Sun Jul 22, 2018 8:18 pm
Maybe a dumb question, but can I assume you could test the timing of a movement on a timegrapher to get an idea of its performance before buying?

I realize it would probably be different after a finished install, but just wondered.
Yes, Duarte can test it.

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Re: Duarte has a NE15 for sale

Post by Selym » Sun Jul 22, 2018 9:07 pm

59yukon01 wrote:
Sun Jul 22, 2018 8:18 pm
Maybe a dumb question, but can I assume you could test the timing of a movement on a timegrapher to get an idea of its performance before buying?

I realize it would probably be different after a finished install, but just wondered.
Sure, you can mount the bare movement in a timing machine. The timing should be the same whether it's cased or uncased. However, there might be a small difference in amplitude with and without hands fitted.

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