Seiko at Basel

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Re: Seiko at Basel

Post by JP Chestnut » Thu Mar 23, 2017 6:30 am

streetracer101 wrote:
Thu Mar 23, 2017 6:18 am
JP Chestnut wrote:38mm and $5800 iirc assuming that's the SS version.
IMG. That pricing is nuts.

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Re: Seiko at Basel

Post by BSears » Thu Mar 23, 2017 6:50 am

Well of course! That's the new trend these days 'cuz if it's expensive, then it must be good!
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Re: Seiko at Basel

Post by JP Chestnut » Thu Mar 23, 2017 7:28 am

Some info:

"All previous GS models will be discontinued in April 2017. The new models will begin to replace the old ones as they come in. The styles with the SEIKO logo at 12:00 will sell through until the new stock replaces. Essentially model numbers will remain the same, +200. Example being the Snowflake SBGA011, now SBGA211.
No other design changes will occur except a few minor ones like the mentioned changing to 1 font for technical description. Also, the chronographs will all have logo placement at 11:00 instead of 12:00. Models like SBGE005 and 011 will have a longer 6:00 index to accommodate the empty space, but that is really about it. "

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SBGR305
Case: Brilliant Hard Titanium
Diameter: 40.5mm
Thickness: 13.6mm
Water Resistance: 10 Bar
Magnetic Resistance: 4,800 A/m
Caliber: 9S68
Driving System: Manual Winding
Accuracy: -3/+5 seconds per day (when static)
Vibrations: 28,800 bph (8 beats per second)
Power Reserve: 72 Hours
Jewels: 24
Other: Crocodile Strap with Three-Fold SS Deployant Clasp
Limited Edition: 968 pieces
Price: $7,200 USD

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Re: Seiko at Basel

Post by BSears » Thu Mar 23, 2017 7:31 am

This is all quite disheartening. I hope they don't fuck with the SBGJ011 or -001 Hi-Beat models. I want to get one of those sometime in the near future. :pray:
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Re: Seiko at Basel

Post by ZASKAR36 » Thu Mar 23, 2017 8:34 am

dukerules wrote:It's pretty much inevitable that I'll buy one of the cheapo 62MAS redos.
Same here. I like the bigger size...Although I think the hands will need to be modded.

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Re: Seiko at Basel

Post by JP Chestnut » Thu Mar 23, 2017 9:42 am

There's a picture floating around showing updated versions of existing watches. The quartz looks really bad since it's

GS
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A bunch of space.

The ones with a novel at 6 o'clock look better though.

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Re: Seiko at Basel

Post by JP Chestnut » Thu Mar 23, 2017 9:44 am

Also, updated packaging (big woop) and a 3 year warranty.

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Re: Seiko at Basel

Post by jswing » Thu Mar 23, 2017 10:00 am

JP Chestnut wrote:
Thu Mar 23, 2017 7:28 am
Some info:

"All previous GS models will be discontinued in April 2017. The new models will begin to replace the old ones as they come in. The styles with the SEIKO logo at 12:00 will sell through until the new stock replaces. Essentially model numbers will remain the same, +200. Example being the Snowflake SBGA011, now SBGA211.
No other design changes will occur except a few minor ones like the mentioned changing to 1 font for technical description. Also, the chronographs will all have logo placement at 11:00 instead of 12:00. Models like SBGE005 and 011 will have a longer 6:00 index to accommodate the empty space, but that is really about it. "

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Let down by typical fuckery:
SBGR305
Case: Brilliant Hard Titanium
Diameter: 40.5mm
Thickness: 13.6mm
Water Resistance: 10 Bar
Magnetic Resistance: 4,800 A/m
Caliber: 9S68
Driving System: Manual Winding
Accuracy: -3/+5 seconds per day (when static)
Vibrations: 28,800 bph (8 beats per second)
Power Reserve: 72 Hours
Jewels: 24
Other: Crocodile Strap with Three-Fold SS Deployant Clasp
Limited Edition: 968 pieces
Price: $7,200 USD
This is beautiful but $7200?

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Re: Seiko at Basel

Post by matt.wu » Thu Mar 23, 2017 10:47 am

I love me some GS, but like many have said here, I can't find one of these that I like. They're either completely boring reissues of things they've already done, or terrible attempts at new and cutting edge design.
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Post by JP Chestnut » Thu Mar 23, 2017 10:58 am

I know people bitched about the branding, but now we have fancier boxes and higher prices. I want a GS and I want one that says "Seiko" because I like the low key assumption that it's a cheap watch.

I guess being a watch guy's stealth option wasn't where they wanted to be.

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Post by JP Chestnut » Thu Mar 23, 2017 11:20 am

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Left hand is the new Snowflake. I like the new font for "Spring Drive", "Automatic", etc. The one with nothing at 6 o'clock looks unbalanced to me, but the PR on the Snowflake looks less bad on the more austere dial.

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Post by mtpenate » Thu Mar 23, 2017 11:35 am

I still can't get over how disappointed I am in the 62MAS reissue. It's Seiko's own white gold Pepsi GMT fiasco. Feels like they totally pulled a Rolex - knew what everyone wanted and didn't care to make it accessible. I understand that the movement is the most premium aspect, but an SBDX017 is so much less. Not really vibing with the 43mm models either.
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Re: Seiko at Basel

Post by JP Chestnut » Thu Mar 23, 2017 11:39 am

The MM300 isn't a limited edition of 2000 pieces. What part of limited edition suggests that the watch should be accessible?

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Re: Seiko at Basel

Post by matt.wu » Thu Mar 23, 2017 11:39 am

JP Chestnut wrote:
Thu Mar 23, 2017 10:58 am
I know people bitched about the branding, but now we have fancier boxes and higher prices. I want a GS and I want one that says "Seiko" because I like the low key assumption that it's a cheap watch.

I guess being a watch guy's stealth option wasn't where they wanted to be.
Good way to say it.
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Post by 59yukon01 » Thu Mar 23, 2017 12:23 pm

Found these on WUS, but may be posted here in another thread. Not sure about the $800 for the blue and $1000 for the black prices I'm hearing, but assume that's msrp. If that's the going rate my Shogun will make forget these.

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Post by mtpenate » Thu Mar 23, 2017 12:26 pm

JP Chestnut wrote:
Thu Mar 23, 2017 11:39 am
The MM300 isn't a limited edition of 2000 pieces. What part of limited edition suggests that the watch should be accessible?
Several of the limited MM300 models of the past were also tough to get your hands on and priced well below while having the same movement. Take the SLA015 with the 8L35 for example - 200 pieces @ 2300 EUR. http://bit.ly/2nNpg0R
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Post by hoppyjr » Thu Mar 23, 2017 12:30 pm

59yukon01 wrote:Found these on WUS, but may be posted here in another thread. Not sure about the $800 for the blue and $1000 for the black prices I'm hearing, but assume that's msrp. If that's the going rate my Shogun will make forget these.

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This may be $800 on rubber, $1000 on bracelet. I think it would make more sense. Figure the typical discounts after the initial excitement and these are right in the ballpark.

I do with the non-LE had drilled lug holes like the LE does.

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Post by Chocodove » Thu Mar 23, 2017 12:32 pm

Khoward will have them for $400 after he/she gets back from traveling.
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Post by hoppyjr » Thu Mar 23, 2017 12:34 pm

Chocodove wrote:Khoward will have them for $400 after he/she gets back from traveling.
Didn't know Khoward was a tranny.

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Re: Seiko at Basel

Post by 59yukon01 » Thu Mar 23, 2017 12:49 pm

hoppyjr wrote:
Thu Mar 23, 2017 12:30 pm
59yukon01 wrote:Found these on WUS, but may be posted here in another thread. Not sure about the $800 for the blue and $1000 for the black prices I'm hearing, but assume that's msrp. If that's the going rate my Shogun will make forget these.

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This may be $800 on rubber, $1000 on bracelet. I think it would make more sense. Figure the typical discounts after the initial excitement and these are right in the ballpark.

I do with the non-LE had drilled lug holes like the LE does.

That's what I meant and should have clarified. I did think it had drilled lugs though, so if they don't that's a big miss on Seiko's part.

Here's a good link to all the the new divers, along with specs.

http://www.seiko-prospex.com/lineup

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Re: Seiko at Basel

Post by JP Chestnut » Thu Mar 23, 2017 12:55 pm

mtpenate wrote:
Thu Mar 23, 2017 12:26 pm
JP Chestnut wrote:
Thu Mar 23, 2017 11:39 am
The MM300 isn't a limited edition of 2000 pieces. What part of limited edition suggests that the watch should be accessible?
Several of the limited MM300 models of the past were also tough to get your hands on and priced well below while having the same movement. Take the SLA015 with the 8L35 for example - 200 pieces @ 2300 EUR. http://bit.ly/2nNpg0R
Those watches had a one off dial, handset, bezel. Is that the same as an entirely new watch? Of course not.

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Re: Seiko at Basel

Post by 59yukon01 » Fri Mar 24, 2017 12:43 pm

Looks like the blue SPB053, according this site is $620.00 USD. However they have the model listed as SBDC053 ?

http://global.rakuten.com/en/store/seik ... KeR4P8Uj9A

They also have the black SPB051 at $775 USD. However again the model number shows different with SBDC051?

http://global.rakuten.com/en/store/seik ... ZWAUN52h8w


Both show as July 21, 2017 release dates though. :tap:

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Re: Seiko at Basel

Post by Chocodove » Fri Mar 24, 2017 1:29 pm

59yukon01 wrote:
Fri Mar 24, 2017 12:43 pm
Looks like the blue SPB053, according this site is $620.00 USD. However they have the model listed as SBDC053 ?

http://global.rakuten.com/en/store/seik ... KeR4P8Uj9A

They also have the black SPB051 at $775 USD. However again the model number shows different with SBDC051?

http://global.rakuten.com/en/store/seik ... ZWAUN52h8w


Both show as July 21, 2017 release dates though. :tap:
They are also calling them "pross pecks" :lol:
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Re: Seiko at Basel

Post by hoppyjr » Fri Mar 24, 2017 1:47 pm

Chocodove wrote:
Fri Mar 24, 2017 1:29 pm
59yukon01 wrote:
Fri Mar 24, 2017 12:43 pm
Looks like the blue SPB053, according this site is $620.00 USD. However they have the model listed as SBDC053 ?

http://global.rakuten.com/en/store/seik ... KeR4P8Uj9A

They also have the black SPB051 at $775 USD. However again the model number shows different with SBDC051?

http://global.rakuten.com/en/store/seik ... ZWAUN52h8w


Both show as July 21, 2017 release dates though. :tap:
They are also calling them "pross pecks" :lol:
I'm betting that's still better than how we would try to say it in Japanese or Chinese. :shrug:

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Post by Chocodove » Fri Mar 24, 2017 1:56 pm

hoppyjr wrote:
Chocodove wrote:
Fri Mar 24, 2017 1:29 pm
59yukon01 wrote:
Fri Mar 24, 2017 12:43 pm
Looks like the blue SPB053, according this site is $620.00 USD. However they have the model listed as SBDC053 ?

http://global.rakuten.com/en/store/seik ... KeR4P8Uj9A

They also have the black SPB051 at $775 USD. However again the model number shows different with SBDC051?

http://global.rakuten.com/en/store/seik ... ZWAUN52h8w


Both show as July 21, 2017 release dates though. :tap:
They are also calling them "pross pecks" :lol:
I'm betting that's still better than how we would try to say it in Japanese or Chinese. :shrug:
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