Incoming PADI...Avoid WUS seller Julio13!

[hidden by leaves]

Ugh... really sorry to hear this Dave (thought I posted this earlier but must have missed something).

[JDC222]

So it continues...

So, I had previously described the condition of the Hamilton, to Julio as the bezel having some micro-scuffs but barely noticeable.
Stupid me, I brought the watch in to Otto Friedl for a light polish, to have it mint, at my cost...

Second email from douche:

"I thought you told me the small marks on the case /bezel were of no consequence. I did not ask you do that, and I appreciate the effort had I received the watch. I have the right to back away based on any reason I find necessary. I am sorry you feel this way , Had you backed out, I would respect your decision for whatever reason. I have to request a refund for shipping, this decision was not made lightly.
As for ethics/morals, I would be mindful about how you try to characterize someone you do not know well. This is just a watch trade.

Julio[/QUOTE]"


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[andrema]

Request a refund for shipping...what does that mean?

[tattoo chef]

Refund? For what??


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[mellonb1]

What a turd. Likely a lucky escape. Better than after he got the watch and used some artifice to return your watch.

This^^^Sucks Dave but you're probably better off not dealing with this Turd.

[toxicavenger]

What a turd. Likely a lucky escape. Better than after he got the watch and used some artifice to return your watch.

This^^^Sucks Dave but you're probably better off not dealing with this Turd.

So true.

[mellonb1]

Request a refund for shipping...what does that mean?

He probably paid and printed out the label on USPS website and now has to cancel the transaction and wait 2 weeks to get his $$ back.

[Torrid]

Man that's crazy. I have sold some in the past that I immediately regretted at the time but a deal is a deal. I retracted one time, but I didn't refuse to go through with the deal. I asked the buyer if I could cancel, but if the seller was adamant I would have continued the deal because I had already given my word.

[JP Chestnut]

At least lie and say you found something wrong with it. I'd post on WUS after the request for... I'm not sure what.

[59yukon01]

I'm still not understanding how he has the nerve to ask for a shipping refund when HE changed his mind on the way to the PO. I call bs!

[rockmastermike]

I hate people like this, not just backing out of a deal after agreeing on it, but the crap of "it's just a watch deal" really pisses me off.

ethics/morals are not a buffet - you can't pick and choose when to apply ethics and morals, you either have them or you don't regardless of whether it's (insert real life issue) or "just a watch deal"

FML

[JDC222]

This is my response to him;

[QUOTE=jdc222]Exactly, to the naked eye, or non-WIS, the bezel is as I described it, but I wanted it to be mint, so I had the bezel polished.
Of course you "have the right" to back away, as you call it. I also have the right to inform others of your non-credible ways.
Keep your PADI, as I am not interested in dealing with you any further.

Dave


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[Ryeguy]

I'm in the "better off not dealing with him" camp. Better to have this happen now, before you sent the watch, than next week when he'd change his mind.

A deal is a deal in my book. Backing out is poor form - especially without asking permission.

Bottom line is there is a way to do things. I don't know if it is a moral or ethics question, but it certainly falls under a failure to understand how to interact in a business transaction.

[Nomadz]

I would always be wary of dealing with anyone called "julio".......

Tell him to GFY.

[Captdave]

I would always be wary of dealing with anyone called "julio".......

Tell him to GFY.

Unless of course he happens to play for the Atlanta Falcons

[gonzomantis]

What a bummer. It sucks to get excited about an exchange like this, then have someone flake on you.

[Selym]

So, after an exchange of 13 emails and a trade deal accomplished, as well as a tracking number, I get this email from the seller (Julio13) this morning;

Good morning Dave

I want to apologize and let you know that I have changed my mind on the deal. It has nothing to do with the arrangement of shipping just that on my way to the Post Office I was thinking about it and changed my mind about the trade and even if I want to sell it so at this point I am going to keep my PADI.

Regards,

Julio

Lesson learned AGAIN!

Fawk.


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Apparently Julio doesn't realize that part of being a man is keeping your word. Sorry to hear it didn't work out.

[logan2z]

Unfortunately it happens, and not just on WUS

At least he flaked before you shipped your watch. Hope the next deal goes through smoothly.

[hobbit712]

I'm not sure he is asking Dave for a shipping refund. Maybe he is going to ask the USPS for a shipping refund as was mentioned above.

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[marchone]

WUS gives me agita just thinkng about it.

[Jeep99dad]

I don't agree with the guy. Seems wrong to me. But in the end it's just a watch....
and easy one to get. You didn't lose money or ship your watch to him.
I'd not get too worked up. Not worth it. Maybe it's better in the end u didn't complete the deal with him.



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[JDC222]

I agree Brice, I'm not worked up. I just wanted to let the fellas know, to avoid the hassle in the future.

[Jeep99dad]

I agree Brice, I'm not worked up. I just wanted to let the fellas know, to avoid the hassle in the future.

I do thank you for the warning.
I'm glad you didn't ship your watch


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[JDC222]

Did a straight trade (Soh1982), easy peasy. This one should be here tomorrow...

NIB:

[rockmastermike]

Good to hear, Dave