SLA033J1 aka modern 6105

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Re: SLA033J1 aka modern 6105

Post by 59yukon01 » Sat Mar 23, 2019 6:31 pm

No secret I'm a big Seiko fan, but this one has never done it for me. The dial and hands I do like, but the case design and 19mm lug width, just never looked right to me.

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Re: SLA033J1 aka modern 6105

Post by Chocodove » Sat Mar 23, 2019 6:37 pm

I’m a sucker for a thin strap and fat case, plus I’m not gonna lie and say the Apocalypse Now connection isn’t part of the allure. It’s a quirky historical Seiko and the reedition does it justice IMO (at least based on pics). I’d love to own one.
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Re: SLA033J1 aka modern 6105

Post by Panerai7 » Sat Mar 23, 2019 7:24 pm

JP Chestnut wrote:
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Unfortunately this watch doesn't work for me aesthetically neither for Rolex money nor Turtle money.

I was one of the "idiots" who paid for SLA017. The case is perhaps my favorite shape of any Seiko I've ever seen. But while it was great for what it was it didn't feel like a $3500 watch. The bezel didn't align at absolute 12, the crown was a little gritty and the whole finishing didn't smell like $3500 watch.
Was is as nice as a 2500D PO? I saw a SLA017 for $2700 recently and thought about buying it. I liked the look of that one when it came out and I still do.
Can't remember last time I held 2500. But if I remember correctly the crown/winding was more refined

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Post by toxicavenger » Sat Mar 23, 2019 7:50 pm

the asymmetrical 6105 would have been a better reedition imo
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Post by 59yukon01 » Sat Mar 23, 2019 8:23 pm

^^^That one I like better.

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Post by toxicavenger » Sat Mar 23, 2019 8:38 pm

the crown is a screw down but made to look like the og lock crown it seems. kind of cool
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Post by sierra11b » Sat Mar 23, 2019 8:48 pm

Once again the question of perceived value with Seiko.

The finish looks okay but nothing that separates it to anything in the <$800 range. Looking at the profile and caseback shot is not that dissimilar than your NAFT. :shrug:

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Re: SLA033J1 aka modern 6105

Post by Chocodove » Sat Mar 23, 2019 9:35 pm

Seppia wrote:
The MM300 was a steal at $1500-1800, it is fairly priced at $2500, would NEVER consider it at $4000.

If seiko wants to up their price, they have to up their game at the same time.
Regulate the fucking movement for a start
Well said. That and I truly wish I didn’t have to worry about the frigging chapter ring or bezel alignment for every Seiko I buy, regardless of price.
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SLA033J1 aka modern 6105

Post by matt.wu » Sat Mar 23, 2019 9:40 pm

GS is a worthy rival to Rolex. Probably better in objective quality if you ask me.

But this “unregulated” and “unfinished” business in the non-GS line doesn’t make sense to me if you’re going to ask for equivalent money.
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Post by bedlam » Sat Mar 23, 2019 11:54 pm

matt.wu wrote:
Sat Mar 23, 2019 9:40 pm
GS is a worthy rival to Rolex. Probably better in objective quality if you ask me.

But this “unregulated” and “unfinished” business in the non-GS line doesn’t make sense to me if you’re going to ask for equivalent money.
Agreed. Though show me an unfinished GS movement?

(the 8L in the MM300 was decorated contrary to legend).

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Re: SLA033J1 aka modern 6105

Post by matt.wu » Sun Mar 24, 2019 1:57 am

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matt.wu wrote:GS is a worthy rival to Rolex. Probably better in objective quality if you ask me.
Very curious about this statement.
You know 10000 times more than me about quality pieces, but I find the case of my GS to be a bit overpolished on the sides (the lug holes have the same “roundness” of overpolished Rolexes if you see what I mean), and the clasp is poor by design and sometimes gets stuck after 5 years of heavy use.
I have never seen this kind of “errors” on Rolex watches.
Maybe yours is polished also? Did you buy new? :)

It’s immediately apparent in two places: polished finishes and the dial/hands. Zaratsu polishing is no joke and no manufacturer comes even close. It’s an undistorted, mirror finish. The dial and hand differential is a bit more dependent on model, and I think the Mt. Iwate dial on the SBGJ001 showcases it best, and it’s why it’s one of my favorites.

I will say, I don’t know that all GS models are necessarily created equally, and so far, in my experience, nothing beats the movement reliability of Rolex.
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Re: SLA033J1 aka modern 6105

Post by demer03 » Sun Mar 24, 2019 3:37 am

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I'm glad I'm not the only one. It's hideous.
And the "doxa" like pregnant case on a narrow strap looks bad.
I know, right? What kind of fucking idiot could like THAT?! I hear some own more than ONE! Knobheads.
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Post by hoppyjr » Sun Mar 24, 2019 3:41 am

I can’t help but see the Pelagos as a better choice for the same or less money. Same with the Planet Ocean 8900 or 2018 Seamaster. That said, the history of this Seiko design appeals to me in a way similar to a Rolex Submariner. If it were a 20mm lug width I’d probably want to try one, but I read somewhere that it’s a goofy 19mm and that bothers me for some reason. It’s one of the main reasons I didn’t keep the 62mas reissue.


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Re: SLA033J1 aka modern 6105

Post by aikiman44 » Sun Mar 24, 2019 5:39 am

demer03 wrote:
Sun Mar 24, 2019 3:37 am
Panerai7 wrote:
Sat Mar 23, 2019 6:02 pm

I'm glad I'm not the only one. It's hideous.
And the "doxa" like pregnant case on a narrow strap looks bad.
I know, right? What kind of fucking idiot could like THAT?! I hear some own more than ONE! Knobheads.

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Re: SLA033J1 aka modern 6105

Post by rockmastermike » Sun Mar 24, 2019 6:40 am

Seppia wrote:
Sat Mar 23, 2019 9:29 pm

If seiko wants to up their price, they have to up their game at the same time.
Regulate the fucking movement for a start
100% this - and get the frickin chapter ring / bezel / dial alignment right.

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Re: SLA033J1 aka modern 6105

Post by Panerai7 » Sun Mar 24, 2019 7:07 am

demer03 wrote:
Sun Mar 24, 2019 3:37 am
Panerai7 wrote:
Sat Mar 23, 2019 6:02 pm

I'm glad I'm not the only one. It's hideous.
And the "doxa" like pregnant case on a narrow strap looks bad.
I know, right? What kind of fucking idiot could like THAT?! I hear some own more than ONE! Knobheads.

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Lol Mike, you're too sensitive about Doxa. Plenty of people knock on watches I love and own.

IMHO, your picture literally illustrates why I can't stand Doxa and will never own one :lol:

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Re: SLA033J1 aka modern 6105

Post by JP Chestnut » Sun Mar 24, 2019 7:15 am

OK, now I remember why I didn't buy that really nice looking first Seiko LE that Art/Hoppy/Ben had. A 19mm lug spacing SUCKS ASS if you need a short strap. There are like two off the shelf options in the world.

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Re: SLA033J1 aka modern 6105

Post by BBK357 » Sun Mar 24, 2019 7:20 am

Seiko is great for <$2000 market.
And I’ve never had a grand Seiko so no opinion there.




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Re: SLA033J1 aka modern 6105

Post by demer03 » Sun Mar 24, 2019 7:21 am

Panerai7 wrote:
Sun Mar 24, 2019 7:07 am
demer03 wrote:
Sun Mar 24, 2019 3:37 am
Panerai7 wrote:
Sat Mar 23, 2019 6:02 pm

I'm glad I'm not the only one. It's hideous.
And the "doxa" like pregnant case on a narrow strap looks bad.
I know, right? What kind of fucking idiot could like THAT?! I hear some own more than ONE! Knobheads.

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Lol Mike, you're too sensitive about Doxa. Plenty of people knock on watches I love and own.

IMHO, your picture literally illustrates why I can't stand Doxa and will never own one :lol:
No no. I’m woke! Good thing I read your stuff!

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Re: SLA033J1 aka modern 6105

Post by Panerai7 » Sun Mar 24, 2019 7:33 am

demer03 wrote:
Sun Mar 24, 2019 7:21 am
Panerai7 wrote:
Sun Mar 24, 2019 7:07 am
demer03 wrote:
Sun Mar 24, 2019 3:37 am
Panerai7 wrote:
Sat Mar 23, 2019 6:02 pm

I'm glad I'm not the only one. It's hideous.
And the "doxa" like pregnant case on a narrow strap looks bad.
I know, right? What kind of fucking idiot could like THAT?! I hear some own more than ONE! Knobheads.

20341488-078A-4EDD-A2A0-FAB1BC197642.jpeg
Lol Mike, you're too sensitive about Doxa. Plenty of people knock on watches I love and own.

IMHO, your picture literally illustrates why I can't stand Doxa and will never own one :lol:
No no. I’m woke! Good thing I read your stuff!

Off to find a 50mm piepan for my 8” wrist! Stat!
Sounds good, let me know what you find ;)

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Re: SLA033J1 aka modern 6105

Post by Selym » Sun Mar 24, 2019 10:06 am

Is it safe to assume they won't be releasing a non-LE "reinterpretation" like they did with the SDBC051?

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Re: SLA033J1 aka modern 6105

Post by maki57 » Sun Mar 24, 2019 11:50 pm

Seiko: Let's distance ourselves from what people historically associate with "Seiko" branding so we can sell more expensive watches as "Grand Seiko".

Also Seiko: Let's reissue some historical models people associate with "Seiko" branding so we can sell them as more expensive watches.

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Re: SLA033J1 aka modern 6105

Post by matt.wu » Mon Mar 25, 2019 12:45 am

maki57 wrote:Seiko: Let's distance ourselves from what people historically associate with "Seiko" branding so we can sell more expensive watches as "Grand Seiko".

Also Seiko: Let's reissue some historical models people associate with "Seiko" branding so we can sell them as more expensive watches.
Well stated. :lol:
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Re: SLA033J1 aka modern 6105

Post by maki57 » Mon Mar 25, 2019 3:11 am

Selym wrote:
Sun Mar 24, 2019 10:06 am
Is it safe to assume they won't be releasing a non-LE "reinterpretation" like they did with the SDBC051?
They left the more affordable model to Tudor.

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