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Re: 62MAS-Inspired Seiko Dive Watch

Post by dnslater » Sat Jun 24, 2017 6:51 am

JP Chestnut wrote:
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Does anyone know if the movement is decorated or regulated?
Supposedly the 8L35 is always "unadjusted" which separates it from the GS 9-series movement. A traditional caseback means that it should be easy for a good watchmaker to improve the accuracy though, unlike the MM300. I believe the MM300 version has some simple striping.

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Re: 62MAS-Inspired Seiko Dive Watch

Post by jswing » Sat Jun 24, 2017 6:53 am

JP Chestnut wrote:
Sat Jun 24, 2017 6:30 am
Does anyone know if the movement is decorated or regulated?
I think not, but with a screw in caseback it'd be easier to regulate than in the MM300.
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Re: 62MAS-Inspired Seiko Dive Watch

Post by jswing » Sat Jun 24, 2017 6:55 am

Seppia wrote:
Sat Jun 24, 2017 5:25 am
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BacoNoir wrote:
Fri Jun 23, 2017 8:26 pm
hoppyjr wrote:I like the watch, just not $3850 worth of like.
Agreed. Not sure why it's not 10-15% of that.
10 - 15%, really?
I interpreted this as

"There should be a cheaper, mass produced version available that is not gigantic and with terrible hands"
I interpreted it as all Seikos should cost a few hundred dollars. :lol:

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Re: 62MAS-Inspired Seiko Dive Watch

Post by sierra11b » Sat Jun 24, 2017 7:25 am

The 42mm version looks great in pics and that blue! :rock:

Too bad the 6R15C scares the shit out of me now.

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Re: 62MAS-Inspired Seiko Dive Watch

Post by hoppyjr » Sat Jun 24, 2017 7:28 am

sierra11b wrote:The 42mm version looks great in pics and that blue! :rock:

Too bad the 6R15C scares the shit out of me now.
I agree on the 42 version.

Why on the 6R15? I've never experienced any issues.

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Post by sierra11b » Sat Jun 24, 2017 7:39 am

All the amplitude issues Spencer kept experiencing with the latest "C" version balance.

https://www.google.com/search?q=spencer ... 24&bih=672

He can swap the balance to an old style but it's not cheap and his success rate isn't 100%. The alternative to swap with the entire clone. Not a gamble I'd be comfortable taking at Shogun prices.

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Post by hoppyjr » Sat Jun 24, 2017 7:59 am

sierra11b wrote:All the amplitude issues Spencer kept experiencing with the latest "C" version balance.

https://www.google.com/search?q=spencer ... 24&bih=672

He can swap the balance to an old style but it's not cheap and his success rate isn't 100%. The alternative to swap with the entire clone. Not a gamble I'd be comfortable taking at Shogun prices.
Interesting.

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Post by r.palace » Sat Jun 24, 2017 8:23 am

sierra11b wrote:All the amplitude issues Spencer kept experiencing with the latest "C" version balance.

https://www.google.com/search?q=spencer ... 24&bih=672

He can swap the balance to an old style but it's not cheap and his success rate isn't 100%. The alternative to swap with the entire clone. Not a gamble I'd be comfortable taking at Shogun prices.

Every 6R15 I've had has had issues, every one. I've owned 5 pieces with the movement.
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Re: 62MAS-Inspired Seiko Dive Watch

Post by 59yukon01 » Sat Jun 24, 2017 8:31 am

I've had 4 with the 6r15. My latest one on the Blumo is almost perfect time wise, the other 3 lost time. The one on my Shogun just has a mind of its own. I find the MM with the 8L35 to be very consistent regardless of position, and runs about +6 s/d.

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Re: 62MAS-Inspired Seiko Dive Watch

Post by sierra11b » Sat Jun 24, 2017 9:04 am

59yukon01 wrote:
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I've had 4 with the 6r15. My latest one on the Blumo is almost perfect time wise, the other 3 lost time. The one on my Shogun just has a mind of its own. I find the MM with the 8L35 to be very consistent regardless of position, and runs about +6 s/d.
Agree on the 8L35. Whether you were unlucky to get one that was 10sec slow a day or on the money, they were always consistent.

I've owned two 6R15 and "mind of its own" is a very good way to describe them.

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Re: 62MAS-Inspired Seiko Dive Watch

Post by BacoNoir » Sat Jun 24, 2017 9:27 am

My 10-15% comment was saying yes, most Seikos are $750 and under to me, unless you get into the fit and finish of the GSs. This one looks like a nice version of a run of mill Seiko to me, but YMMV. We all have different tastes and buy what appeals to us.
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Re: 62MAS-Inspired Seiko Dive Watch

Post by jswing » Sat Jun 24, 2017 11:54 am

BacoNoir wrote:My 10-15% comment was saying yes, most Seikos are $750 and under to me, unless you get into the fit and finish of the GSs. This one looks like a nice version of a run of mill Seiko to me, but YMMV. We all have different tastes and buy what appeals to us.
Those who have handled one say it has GS fit and finish, and it has an undecorated GS movement. I totally get that non Seiko fans wouldn't pay more than a few hundred bucks for a Seiko, but to me this watch is good value for what it is. At least at the price I'm paying, which is significantly less than the US and Euro pricing. But your description is exactly right, it's a nice version of what was originally a run of the mill Seiko, its historical significance notwithstanding.

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Post by BacoNoir » Sat Jun 24, 2017 1:42 pm

And no disrespect to anyone who loves it. I know plenty of folks who hate the AP Royal Oak but I bought it for me.
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Post by jswing » Sat Jun 24, 2017 1:56 pm

BacoNoir wrote:And no disrespect to anyone who loves it. I know plenty of folks who hate the AP Royal Oak but I bought it for me.
I love the RO. I had a ROO Safari at one time but found it was actually too nice for me. Sounds stupid, but I just wasn't comfortable wearing such a nice watch.

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Re: 62MAS-Inspired Seiko Dive Watch

Post by streetracer101 » Sat Jun 24, 2017 1:58 pm

The pics look great. I wish I was able to snag one at the retailer direct prices.

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Re: 62MAS-Inspired Seiko Dive Watch

Post by JP Chestnut » Sat Jun 24, 2017 4:10 pm

Seppia wrote:
Sat Jun 24, 2017 4:08 pm
JP Chestnut wrote:Does anyone know if the movement is decorated or regulated?
The 8L35 is the unregulated and undecorated version of a GS movement (can't remember which one).
I have owned two MM300 and tried another one for a few weeks.

All of them were incredibly consistent: the variance was 1-2 seconds per day tops which was most likely due to my timing inaccuracy
The timekeeping out of the box though was spotty.
The two I purchased were +15 s/day more or less.
Unacceptable for me on a $1500 watch.
The one I borrowed was +5/day which is ok.
Wayne has one and it's super accurate.

All are very consistent, so most probably the quality of the movement is there.
Was this a slow motion double post?

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Re: 62MAS-Inspired Seiko Dive Watch

Post by TSD » Wed Jun 28, 2017 7:03 pm

sierra11b wrote:
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Agree on the 8L35. Whether you were unlucky to get one that was 10sec slow a day or on the money, they were always consistent.

I've owned two 6R15 and "mind of its own" is a very good way to describe them.
The 8L35 in my MM was +5spd every day, and held at +/-0 if rested crown up. It's a great movement. My 6R15Cs on the other hand have been a crap shoot, and I'm done gambling.

Chino just sent confirmation that my request a few months ago for an SBDX019 pre-order went through so I guess I'll be joining Jeff's club when these ship. :koolaid:

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Re: 62MAS-Inspired Seiko Dive Watch

Post by jswing » Thu Jun 29, 2017 6:03 am

TSD wrote:
Wed Jun 28, 2017 7:03 pm
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Sat Jun 24, 2017 9:04 am
Agree on the 8L35. Whether you were unlucky to get one that was 10sec slow a day or on the money, they were always consistent.

I've owned two 6R15 and "mind of its own" is a very good way to describe them.
The 8L35 in my MM was +5spd every day, and held at +/-0 if rested crown up. It's a great movement. My 6R15Cs on the other hand have been a crap shoot, and I'm done gambling.

Chino just sent confirmation that my request a few months ago for an SBDX019 pre-order went through so I guess I'll be joining Jeff's club when these ship. :koolaid:
Cool, congrats! :cheers:

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Re: 62MAS-Inspired Seiko Dive Watch

Post by 2ar2c1 » Fri Jun 30, 2017 3:33 pm

it has arrived:
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Re: 62MAS-Inspired Seiko Dive Watch

Post by hoppyjr » Fri Jun 30, 2017 3:42 pm

2ar2c1 wrote:it has arrived:
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Dibs. Love it.

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Post by jtbenson » Fri Jun 30, 2017 3:51 pm

ditto, love it too, but please tell me the crown is unscrewed and pulled all the way out in that pic??
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Re: 62MAS-Inspired Seiko Dive Watch

Post by jswing » Fri Jun 30, 2017 6:53 pm

2ar2c1 wrote:it has arrived:
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Looks great! Mine should ship next week, pics help with the wait.

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Re: 62MAS-Inspired Seiko Dive Watch

Post by Chocodove » Fri Jun 30, 2017 6:56 pm

Nice...that looks amazing.
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Re: 62MAS-Inspired Seiko Dive Watch

Post by JP Chestnut » Fri Jun 30, 2017 7:15 pm

2ar2c1 wrote:
Fri Jun 30, 2017 3:33 pm
it has arrived:
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That looks like a high quality watch. I'm not sure why a random wrist shot makes a watch look 1,000 times better than every image Seiko produced.

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