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Incoming Hamilton model 21 chronometer

Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2018 3:57 pm
by River Rat
Well been wanting one for years. Well I was searching Ebay I see one for the price I paid for model 22 years ago. So at halve the price they sell for I pull the trigger.
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What's a plus is the repair receipt so you know what ship it came off of any ships timepiece in my collection I don't know what ship it came off of. I know it's not off a military ship but merchant marine did serve like Liberty or Victory ships now to find info about the merchant vessel Cygus. Did ask the seller to cork the balance wheel so the movement don't get damaged in shipping hope he does it. This is what ships use to use for Navigation so they could do the math on the chart and use a sextant some thing our Navy should relearn if I was China or Russia taking out GPS satellites would be the first thing I would do if I planning a attack on the USA our Navy would be lost at sea our weapon systems would be out of business we would be fucked. The old school ways are best. The movement a Fusee uses a chain like on a ten speed bike the movement a piece of art. This was made when America knew how to make stuff.

Re: Incoming Hamilton model 21 chronometer

Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2018 3:59 pm
by gonzomantis
Very cool, Mike!

Re: Incoming Hamilton model 21 chronometer

Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2018 4:14 pm
by ericf4
That is incredible. I'd love something like that.

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Re: Incoming Hamilton model 21 chronometer

Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2018 4:27 pm
by Chocodove
That’s awesome! Very cool.

Re: Incoming Hamilton model 21 chronometer

Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2018 4:34 pm
by rockmastermike
Very cool, Mike - great catch

Re: Incoming Hamilton model 21 chronometer

Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2018 4:52 pm
by River Rat
Years ago I remember watching pawn stars on TV some one brought one of these to the shop to sell it. They got it for cheap because it did not seem to work. Then there clock repair guy come in looks at the movement pulls a piece of paper out from under the balance wheel and she works it was what we call corked for travel so not to damage the movement that clock repair guys says that will be 20 bucks and Rick said dam the cheapest clock repair bill ever. They got a deal on that Hamilton model 21.

Re: Incoming Hamilton model 21 chronometer

Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2018 4:54 pm
by Heuerville
Holy shit, that's cool.

Re: Incoming Hamilton model 21 chronometer

Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2018 5:25 pm
by aikiman44
You don’t mess around!

Re: Incoming Hamilton model 21 chronometer

Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2018 7:24 pm
by River Rat
Did find this about the USS Cygnus AF-23 has to be the ship it came off of.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Cygnus_(AF-23)

http://www.navsource.org/archives/09/06/0623.htm

Any body remember the old movie Mister Roberts about a Navy crew on a supply ship in the back waters of WW2 kind of the ship it came off of. Kind of like the second ship I was on the USS Mauna Kea AE-22 we called it the Mauna Tuna a ship of boredom. But now it mite have some Navy history.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mister_Ro ... 1955_film)

Re: Incoming Hamilton model 21 chronometer

Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2018 9:54 am
by unsub073
That is a really cool piece of history. Congrats.

Re: Incoming Hamilton model 21 chronometer

Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2018 10:21 am
by hobbit712
Beautiful piece of art/history

Re: Incoming Hamilton model 21 chronometer

Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2018 10:26 am
by 1954Selmer
Amazing history. Congrats and enjoy

Re: Incoming Hamilton model 21 chronometer

Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2018 3:31 pm
by BSears
Good stuff, Mike. And congrats on the find!

Re: Incoming Hamilton model 21 chronometer

Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2018 3:39 pm
by River Rat
When I was talking about one of the ships I was on The USS Mauna Kea AE-22 a Ammo ship. I had to be nuts youtube of one getting hit by a Kamikaze in WW2 and being a more modern ship we carried more ammo 500 and 1000 pound bombs and asrock missiles and small arms ammo and 3 inch 50 rounds with just enough room in the cargo hold to get a forklift through stacked high all most touching the overhead the celling for you none Navy folk we had 5 cargo holds 3 or 4 levels each .
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMs4IJQVRYM
A spark or a combat hit and my ass would be gone the forklifts were electric with a static strap that touched the deck some tools had to be made of brass like hammers and some others tools if you needed them for work in the cargo holds. Another one blew up in Port Chicago in WW2 while loading pier side a anchor ended up on some ones yard over 300 dead. Was dangerous work I ask for tug duty and get a AMMO ship instead what luck.

Re: Incoming Hamilton model 21 chronometer

Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2018 4:57 pm
by River Rat
Well got it today. I pulled the corks pieces of paper that get put between the balance wheel to secure it from damage in shipping winded it and set the time you can only move the hands forward never backwards or damage to the movement can happen. Then you give it a genital shake to get the balance wheel going. And nothing happen over at the Omega forum I posted the seller photos of it when it was incoming and Canuck a member there said mine still had the stop up screw it's a screw in the regulator that screw down in-between a gear to secure it in shipping. I called Historic timekeepers Restoration Services who works on these. He said look between the plates and see if some is jammed he was going to seen a photo of what it looks like. Then I remember what Canuck said about that screw looked between the plaits there the screw in-between the gear stopping it. Got a screw driver raised the screw and she was working. Wonder if the seller thought she was broke and why it was sold cheaper my win.
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Stop up screw in down position stopping the movement from running.

Re: Incoming Hamilton model 21 chronometer

Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2018 8:48 am
by gonzomantis
Awesome! It's always nice to have a happy ending to a story like this.

Re: Incoming Hamilton model 21 chronometer

Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2018 8:50 pm
by ncstate1201
Cool find, I had one for a while, but was not near as complete as yours. It had an aftermarket box and unfortunately not an easily traceable history. Even after owning one the person I bought it from nor I knew about the screw mentioned...

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Re: Incoming Hamilton model 21 chronometer

Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2018 9:37 pm
by Seppia
Wow Mike you always get the good stuff!

Seriously I’ve said this before but I believe it 100%: pound for pound you have the most kickass collection of the whole forum in my opinion.

Big congrats on another great score.

Also, I’m curious about the genital shake, can I get one?

:gayumbrella:

Re: Incoming Hamilton model 21 chronometer

Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2018 4:45 am
by ericf4
Seppia wrote:Wow Mike you always get the good stuff!

Seriously I’ve said this before but I believe it 100%: pound for pound you have the most kickass collection of the whole forum in my opinion.

Big congrats on another great score.

Also, I’m curious about the genital shake, can I get one?

:gayumbrella:
Genital shake.....priceless

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Re: Incoming Hamilton model 21 chronometer

Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2018 6:21 am
by River Rat
I called a few who work on these and who knows the last time this had a service. The detent the main part in these chronometers that part alone $600.00 bucks so you want some one with experience there tricky to take apart. If you take it apart like a watch some parts still have power and will let go and damage parts did a lot of home work. So maybe next week off for a service. Surprising parts are still available there's a guy who bought all of Hamilton's parts for these when they went out of Business got a part from him for my Hamilton model 22 the model 21 little brother when my watchmaker could not find the part during servicing it.