Interesting thread on fake fortis marine master

[River Rat]

All ways wondered about these dam China and there fakes

http://forum.tz-uk.com/showthread.php?2 ... ake-Fortis

[JP Chestnut]

All ways wondered about these dam China and there fakes

http://forum.tz-uk.com/showthread.php?2 ... ake-Fortis

IIRC, that person is a member of DWC.

[River Rat]

I guess the guy from Holland was talking about this Chinese web site
http://watchlim.blogspot.com/search/label/FORTIS

[marchone]

What a minefield. Did it ever get resolved?

[streetracer101]

Yes, a member here received a fake from a seller on ebay. I believe that seller is still active.

[unixshrk]

Yes, a member here received a fake from a seller on ebay. I believe that seller is still active.

Correct. And clearly negative feedback didn't hurt him. He's churning them out like clock work

[Dogmann]

Hi all,

Wow I came really close to pulling the trigger on one of these quite a few times but even the ones that are claiming to be from the 2002 re-issue batch never felt quite right to me looks like I had a really lucky escape I do think they are great looking watches and would love to find an original one. What is really amazing is some of the sellers claiming to be selling a re issue 2002 watch have tried to put a scuff mark over the P in Waterproop to hide it. Here are 3 listings I just found now two are already over £300 and the other only £97.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VINTAGE-RARE- ... 3438&rt=nc

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Vintage-FORTI ... true&rt=nc

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VINTAGE-FORTI ... 1520506707

Marc

[River Rat]

waterproop god dam Chinese learn to spell and you mite bamboozle some one into a fake watch. I only saw a real one once at a NAWCC show and the colors were different no orange colors but still colorful and greenish colors and faded dial it was not for sale but was cool to see what a real vintage one looked like.

[SpaceCowboy]

Minefield allright. Had to give up the hunt myself. But on the bright side: Stumbled across the valjoux 72 Marinemaster while hunting (Stewart got one I think, ref picture). Thinking of getting one, but they are quite pricey:

[Heuerville]

All ways wondered about these dam China and there fakes

http://forum.tz-uk.com/showthread.php?2 ... ake-Fortis

IIRC, that person is a member of DWC.

Yes.. That's me!! - aka 'europa'.

Long story short..
The buyer took it to his watchmaker, and the movement, case etc appeared to have all the correct 70's markings. But I did refund the buyer fully.
I then re-advertised it on TZUK at a very low knock down price - and pointed all potential buyers to that thread.

[toxicavenger]

If is that the guy Tanwill that was doing these fakes?

[toxicavenger]

All ways wondered about these dam China and there fakes

http://forum.tz-uk.com/showthread.php?2 ... ake-Fortis

IIRC, that person is a member of DWC.

Yes.. That's me!! - aka 'europa'.

Long story short..
The buyer took it to his watchmaker, and the movement, case etc appeared to have all the correct 70's markings. But I did refund the buyer fully.
I then re-advertised it on TZUK at a very low knock down price - and pointed all potential buyers to that thread.

Did they ban you for this at TZ?

[Heuerville]

All ways wondered about these dam China and there fakes

http://forum.tz-uk.com/showthread.php?2 ... ake-Fortis

IIRC, that person is a member of DWC.

Yes.. That's me!! - aka 'europa'.

Long story short..
The buyer took it to his watchmaker, and the movement, case etc appeared to have all the correct 70's markings. But I did refund the buyer fully.
I then re-advertised it on TZUK at a very low knock down price - and pointed all potential buyers to that thread.

Did they ban you for this at TZ?

No.. the owner banned me because I pointed out his Heuer was fake. It's a long drawn out story, but that's pretty much it.
I wasn't the only Heuerista that was banned.. those who agreed with me were also banned - about 4 or 5 people. (including some highly respected Heuer big-hitters)

[toxicavenger]

All ways wondered about these dam China and there fakes

http://forum.tz-uk.com/showthread.php?2 ... ake-Fortis

IIRC, that person is a member of DWC.

Yes.. That's me!! - aka 'europa'.

Long story short..
The buyer took it to his watchmaker, and the movement, case etc appeared to have all the correct 70's markings. But I did refund the buyer fully.
I then re-advertised it on TZUK at a very low knock down price - and pointed all potential buyers to that thread.

Did they ban you for this at TZ?

No.. the owner banned me because I pointed out his Heuer was fake. It's a long drawn out story, but that's pretty much it.
I wasn't the only Heuerista that was banned.. those who agreed with me were also banned - about 4 or 5 people. (including some highly respected Heuer big-hitters)

So Eddie has a fake Heuer???? That is crazy but funny at the same time.

[River Rat]

All ways wondered about these dam China and there fakes

http://forum.tz-uk.com/showthread.php?2 ... ake-Fortis

IIRC, that person is a member of DWC.

Yes.. That's me!! - aka 'europa'.

Long story short..
The buyer took it to his watchmaker, and the movement, case etc appeared to have all the correct 70's markings. But I did refund the buyer fully.
I then re-advertised it on TZUK at a very low knock down price - and pointed all potential buyers to that thread.

Did they ban you for this at TZ?

No.. the owner banned me because I pointed out his Heuer was fake. It's a long drawn out story, but that's pretty much it.
I wasn't the only Heuerista that was banned.. those who agreed with me were also banned - about 4 or 5 people. (including some highly respected Heuer big-hitters)

On MWR forum I was told a issued Wrist watch WWW CYMA I just bought was fake and it turn out to be fake I was able to get my money back and never did business with that seller again I was grateful I was told and I learned from my mistake. Funny how others take it.

[marchone]

I respect your integrity Stewart.

[Heuerville]

All ways wondered about these dam China and there fakes

http://forum.tz-uk.com/showthread.php?2 ... ake-Fortis

IIRC, that person is a member of DWC.

Yes.. That's me!! - aka 'europa'.

Long story short..
The buyer took it to his watchmaker, and the movement, case etc appeared to have all the correct 70's markings. But I did refund the buyer fully.
I then re-advertised it on TZUK at a very low knock down price - and pointed all potential buyers to that thread.

Did they ban you for this at TZ?

No.. the owner banned me because I pointed out his Heuer was fake. It's a long drawn out story, but that's pretty much it.
I wasn't the only Heuerista that was banned.. those who agreed with me were also banned - about 4 or 5 people. (including some highly respected Heuer big-hitters)

So Eddie has a fake Heuer???? That is crazy but funny at the same time.

Yes, but he refused to believe (maybe trying to save face - who knows). Jeff Stein, who runs On The Dash got involved, and even got Jack Heuer himself to appraise a photo of the watch, who confirmed it wasn't a Heuer. This info was also ignored. It then got all messy, as we were all banned, and the thread deleted.

[Heuerville]

I respect your integrity Stewart.

Thanks bud

[toxicavenger]

All ways wondered about these dam China and there fakes

http://forum.tz-uk.com/showthread.php?2 ... ake-Fortis

IIRC, that person is a member of DWC.

Yes.. That's me!! - aka 'europa'.

Long story short..
The buyer took it to his watchmaker, and the movement, case etc appeared to have all the correct 70's markings. But I did refund the buyer fully.
I then re-advertised it on TZUK at a very low knock down price - and pointed all potential buyers to that thread.

Did they ban you for this at TZ?

No.. the owner banned me because I pointed out his Heuer was fake. It's a long drawn out story, but that's pretty much it.
I wasn't the only Heuerista that was banned.. those who agreed with me were also banned - about 4 or 5 people. (including some highly respected Heuer big-hitters)

So Eddie has a fake Heuer???? That is crazy but funny at the same time.

Yes, but he refused to believe (maybe trying to save face - who knows). Jeff Stein, who runs On The Dash got involved, and even got Jack Heuer himself to appraise a photo of the watch, who confirmed it wasn't a Heuer. This info was also ignored. It then got all messy, as we were all banned, and the thread deleted.

What d-bag when you are actually trying to give him info. Well you are better off here than at that location anyway.

[JP Chestnut]

All ways wondered about these dam China and there fakes

http://forum.tz-uk.com/showthread.php?2 ... ake-Fortis

IIRC, that person is a member of DWC.

Yes.. That's me!! - aka 'europa'.

Long story short..
The buyer took it to his watchmaker, and the movement, case etc appeared to have all the correct 70's markings. But I did refund the buyer fully.
I then re-advertised it on TZUK at a very low knock down price - and pointed all potential buyers to that thread.

Did they ban you for this at TZ?

No.. the owner banned me because I pointed out his Heuer was fake. It's a long drawn out story, but that's pretty much it.
I wasn't the only Heuerista that was banned.. those who agreed with me were also banned - about 4 or 5 people. (including some highly respected Heuer big-hitters)

So Eddie has a fake Heuer???? That is crazy but funny at the same time.

Yes, but he refused to believe (maybe trying to save face - who knows). Jeff Stein, who runs On The Dash got involved, and even got Jack Heuer himself to appraise a photo of the watch, who confirmed it wasn't a Heuer. This info was also ignored. It then got all messy, as we were all banned, and the thread deleted.

What d-bag when you are actually trying to give him info. Well you are better off here than at that location anyway.

That was a good thread too - very funny.

[425ranger]

What a swirling shit storm on a number of levels. All of it the very reason I stay away from vintages.

[SpaceCowboy]

All ways wondered about these dam China and there fakes

http://forum.tz-uk.com/showthread.php?2 ... ake-Fortis

IIRC, that person is a member of DWC.

Yes.. That's me!! - aka 'europa'.

Long story short..
The buyer took it to his watchmaker, and the movement, case etc appeared to have all the correct 70's markings. But I did refund the buyer fully.
I then re-advertised it on TZUK at a very low knock down price - and pointed all potential buyers to that thread.

Did they ban you for this at TZ?

No.. the owner banned me because I pointed out his Heuer was fake. It's a long drawn out story, but that's pretty much it.
I wasn't the only Heuerista that was banned.. those who agreed with me were also banned - about 4 or 5 people. (including some highly respected Heuer big-hitters)

So Eddie has a fake Heuer???? That is crazy but funny at the same time.

Yes, but he refused to believe (maybe trying to save face - who knows). Jeff Stein, who runs On The Dash got involved, and even got Jack Heuer himself to appraise a photo of the watch, who confirmed it wasn't a Heuer. This info was also ignored. It then got all messy, as we were all banned, and the thread deleted.

Jeez...

Talk about destroying your own integrity and credibility, not to mention that of your forum. TZ-UK you say? Well, I guess you can't trust that site as a source of information anymore. That kind of nerddom reminds me of that Donkey Kong movie, The King of Kong: A Fistful of Quarters.

Still, Kudos Stewart! And fuck'em.

[marchone]

So Eddie has a fake Heuer???? That is crazy but funny at the same time.

Yes, but he refused to believe (maybe trying to save face - who knows). Jeff Stein, who runs On The Dash got involved, and even got Jack Heuer himself to appraise a photo of the watch, who confirmed it wasn't a Heuer. This info was also ignored. It then got all messy, as we were all banned, and the thread deleted.

I've read a couple of not so great stories about Eddie Platts over the years but this takes the cake.

By the bye, I have long wondered what the connection is between Timezone and TZ-UK. Anybody?

Stewart, in your honor I am wearing my Heuerville strap today in solidarity.

[hoppyjr]

Eddie Platts comes across as an arrogant prick, much like Bill Yao.

[mil_watch]

Some forum runners have too big egos, worst when it comes to pricey, i sould say overevaluated watches, they turn paranoid.
As told before, it makes their board totally unreliable without freedom of speech.

About the fortis, you can destroy it in 3 seconds. Laser on a seventies watch ? No way. Even a mole could spot it !