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Re: Best vintage Sub to buy today?

Post by JBZ » Wed Jan 23, 2019 12:56 pm

Bradystraps wrote:
Wed Jan 23, 2019 12:37 pm
I should have mentioned, MUST have a date function.
I'm the same way. So that leaves 1680, 16800, 168000, and 16610. Or you could look for a Sea Dweller - 16660 or 16600 (1665's are also ridiculous expensive, even the great whites).
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Re: Best vintage Sub to buy today?

Post by Bradystraps » Thu Jan 24, 2019 8:56 am

JBZ wrote:
Wed Jan 23, 2019 12:56 pm
Bradystraps wrote:
Wed Jan 23, 2019 12:37 pm
I should have mentioned, MUST have a date function.
I'm the same way. So that leaves 1680, 16800, 168000, and 16610. Or you could look for a Sea Dweller - 16660 or 16600 (1665's are also ridiculous expensive, even the great whites).
Leaning 16800. The search begins. And it will be a long one as I am in no rush whatsoever.
Thanks all for chiming in and helping. :cheers:
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Re: Best vintage Sub to buy today?

Post by Steve O. » Thu Jan 24, 2019 11:23 am

16800...

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Re: Best vintage Sub to buy today?

Post by River Rat » Thu Jan 24, 2019 1:45 pm

I would go for what we use to call the poor mans sub but today a Tudor snowflake sell for more these days but still cheaper than a vintage Rolex Sub.
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Re: Best vintage Sub to buy today?

Post by BBK357 » Thu Jan 24, 2019 2:38 pm

River Rat wrote:I would go for what we use to call the poor mans sub but today a Tudor snowflake sell for more these days but still cheaper than a vintage Rolex Sub.
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Your kids got a good dad to pay for college my parents were poor. I joined the Navy and used the GI bill to pay for college it paid for the books and tuitions had to work days and go to school at night and then do the reserve on week ends to get by and ended up not owing a dime to many kids end up in college debt don't know why more don't do the military rout and the GI bill makes you get great grades you fail you pay the money back.

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Post by Heuerville » Thu Jan 24, 2019 3:30 pm

1680 or Tudor Snowflake. I had both, sold them both, and I'm a f**king idiot.
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Re: Best vintage Sub to buy today?

Post by Nellipj » Thu Jan 24, 2019 3:45 pm

Heuerville wrote:1680 or Tudor Snowflake. I had both, sold them both, and I'm a f**king idiot.
I did exactly the same thing. Doh!


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Re: Best vintage Sub to buy today?

Post by greenlightning » Thu Jan 24, 2019 5:02 pm

Steve O. wrote:16800...

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Is this my old one? Miss the hell out of that one

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Re: Best vintage Sub to buy today?

Post by tmw » Fri Jan 25, 2019 7:38 am

What about going a little different? the 16610LV. The Kermit, which may or may not be "vintage" gives you all the collectability, wearability, appreciation in a more modern sub - with all the features of a more modern sub. And...its a damn cool watch unto itself - it stands out with the dial and bezel.
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Re: Best vintage Sub to buy today?

Post by JBZ » Fri Jan 25, 2019 7:43 am

It all depends on budget, but there's no such thing as a "bargain" submariner anymore, Rolex or Tudor.
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Re: Best vintage Sub to buy today?

Post by JP Chestnut » Fri Jan 25, 2019 7:43 am

The LV is cool but it's almost vintage expensive already. I got my NOS version to wear, and it just sits in the box.

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Re: Best vintage Sub to buy today?

Post by toxicavenger » Fri Jan 25, 2019 9:07 am

JBZ wrote:
Fri Jan 25, 2019 7:43 am
It all depends on budget, but there's no such thing as a "bargain" submariner anymore, Rolex or Tudor.
that is why i said "to late"

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Re: Best vintage Sub to buy today?

Post by Steve O. » Fri Jan 25, 2019 9:58 am

greenlightning wrote:
Thu Jan 24, 2019 5:02 pm
Steve O. wrote:16800...

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It is. Still love it, but miss the 16600 Sea Dweller I traded for it back before prices got crazy.
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Re: Best vintage Sub to buy today?

Post by JBZ » Fri Jan 25, 2019 10:14 am

toxicavenger wrote:
Fri Jan 25, 2019 9:07 am
JBZ wrote:
Fri Jan 25, 2019 7:43 am
It all depends on budget, but there's no such thing as a "bargain" submariner anymore, Rolex or Tudor.
that is why i said "to late"
It certainly is for me, but I'd be more interested in a GMT at the moment. Can't afford that, either.
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Re: Best vintage Sub to buy today?

Post by JBZ » Mon Jan 28, 2019 8:22 am

Bradystraps wrote:
Thu Jan 24, 2019 8:56 am
JBZ wrote:
Wed Jan 23, 2019 12:56 pm
Bradystraps wrote:
Wed Jan 23, 2019 12:37 pm
I should have mentioned, MUST have a date function.
I'm the same way. So that leaves 1680, 16800, 168000, and 16610. Or you could look for a Sea Dweller - 16660 or 16600 (1665's are also ridiculous expensive, even the great whites).
Leaning 16800. The search begins. And it will be a long one as I am in no rush whatsoever.
Thanks all for chiming in and helping. :cheers:
Lunar Oyster (Kirill Yuzh) has a 1986 16800 up for sale. Gloss dial and applied markers. Box and papers. Condition looks pretty good to me for a 33 year old watch, but I'm no expert regarding original case condition, dials, hands, inserts, etc. Might be worth reaching out to Kirill if you're interested. I've done a few deals with him and always found him to be responsive and fair.

https://www.lunaroyster.com/watches/198 ... amp-papers

By way of comparison, he also has a 16800 matte dial from 1981 and a 16610 from 1990.

https://www.lunaroyster.com/watches/198 ... low-patina

https://www.lunaroyster.com/watches/198 ... low-patina
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Re: Best vintage Sub to buy today?

Post by TSD » Mon Jan 28, 2019 7:44 pm

JBZ wrote:
Mon Jan 28, 2019 8:22 am
Bradystraps wrote:
Thu Jan 24, 2019 8:56 am
JBZ wrote:
Wed Jan 23, 2019 12:56 pm
Bradystraps wrote:
Wed Jan 23, 2019 12:37 pm
I should have mentioned, MUST have a date function.
I'm the same way. So that leaves 1680, 16800, 168000, and 16610. Or you could look for a Sea Dweller - 16660 or 16600 (1665's are also ridiculous expensive, even the great whites).
Leaning 16800. The search begins. And it will be a long one as I am in no rush whatsoever.
Thanks all for chiming in and helping. :cheers:
Lunar Oyster (Kirill Yuzh) has a 1986 16800 up for sale. Gloss dial and applied markers. Box and papers. Condition looks pretty good to me for a 33 year old watch, but I'm no expert regarding original case condition, dials, hands, inserts, etc. Might be worth reaching out to Kirill if you're interested. I've done a few deals with him and always found him to be responsive and fair.

https://www.lunaroyster.com/watches/198 ... amp-papers

By way of comparison, he also has a 16800 matte dial from 1981 and a 16610 from 1990.

https://www.lunaroyster.com/watches/198 ... low-patina

https://www.lunaroyster.com/watches/198 ... low-patina
I think Kirill does describe the condition well and price accurately. But holy crap, when did a 16710 become an $18.5k watch???
https://www.lunaroyster.com/watches/nos ... 6-movement
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Re: Best vintage Sub to buy today?

Post by matt.wu » Mon Jan 28, 2019 7:46 pm

TSD wrote:
JBZ wrote:
Mon Jan 28, 2019 8:22 am
Bradystraps wrote:
Thu Jan 24, 2019 8:56 am
JBZ wrote:
Wed Jan 23, 2019 12:56 pm
Bradystraps wrote:
Wed Jan 23, 2019 12:37 pm
I should have mentioned, MUST have a date function.
I'm the same way. So that leaves 1680, 16800, 168000, and 16610. Or you could look for a Sea Dweller - 16660 or 16600 (1665's are also ridiculous expensive, even the great whites).
Leaning 16800. The search begins. And it will be a long one as I am in no rush whatsoever.
Thanks all for chiming in and helping. :cheers:
Lunar Oyster (Kirill Yuzh) has a 1986 16800 up for sale. Gloss dial and applied markers. Box and papers. Condition looks pretty good to me for a 33 year old watch, but I'm no expert regarding original case condition, dials, hands, inserts, etc. Might be worth reaching out to Kirill if you're interested. I've done a few deals with him and always found him to be responsive and fair.

https://www.lunaroyster.com/watches/198 ... amp-papers

By way of comparison, he also has a 16800 matte dial from 1981 and a 16610 from 1990.

https://www.lunaroyster.com/watches/198 ... low-patina

https://www.lunaroyster.com/watches/198 ... low-patina
I think Kirill does describe the condition well and price accurately. But holy crap, when did a 16710 become an $18.5k watch???
https://www.lunaroyster.com/watches/nos ... 6-movement
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Rolex nerds pay an individual premium for either of those, and if you combine the two, you get “extra special”!
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Re: Best vintage Sub to buy today?

Post by toxicavenger » Mon Jan 28, 2019 7:51 pm

matt.wu wrote:
Mon Jan 28, 2019 7:46 pm
TSD wrote:
JBZ wrote:
Mon Jan 28, 2019 8:22 am
Bradystraps wrote:
Thu Jan 24, 2019 8:56 am
JBZ wrote:
Wed Jan 23, 2019 12:56 pm
Bradystraps wrote:
Wed Jan 23, 2019 12:37 pm
I should have mentioned, MUST have a date function.
I'm the same way. So that leaves 1680, 16800, 168000, and 16610. Or you could look for a Sea Dweller - 16660 or 16600 (1665's are also ridiculous expensive, even the great whites).
Leaning 16800. The search begins. And it will be a long one as I am in no rush whatsoever.
Thanks all for chiming in and helping. :cheers:
Lunar Oyster (Kirill Yuzh) has a 1986 16800 up for sale. Gloss dial and applied markers. Box and papers. Condition looks pretty good to me for a 33 year old watch, but I'm no expert regarding original case condition, dials, hands, inserts, etc. Might be worth reaching out to Kirill if you're interested. I've done a few deals with him and always found him to be responsive and fair.

https://www.lunaroyster.com/watches/198 ... amp-papers

By way of comparison, he also has a 16800 matte dial from 1981 and a 16610 from 1990.

https://www.lunaroyster.com/watches/198 ... low-patina

https://www.lunaroyster.com/watches/198 ... low-patina
I think Kirill does describe the condition well and price accurately. But holy crap, when did a 16710 become an $18.5k watch???
https://www.lunaroyster.com/watches/nos ... 6-movement
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NOS + 3186

Rolex nerds pay an individual premium for either of those, and if you combine the two, you get “extra special”!
those are the guys who fuck up the watch gig for me

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Re: Best vintage Sub to buy today?

Post by JBZ » Tue Jan 29, 2019 6:26 am

toxicavenger wrote:
Mon Jan 28, 2019 7:51 pm
matt.wu wrote:
Mon Jan 28, 2019 7:46 pm
TSD wrote:
JBZ wrote:
Mon Jan 28, 2019 8:22 am
Bradystraps wrote:
Thu Jan 24, 2019 8:56 am
JBZ wrote:
Wed Jan 23, 2019 12:56 pm
Bradystraps wrote:
Wed Jan 23, 2019 12:37 pm
I should have mentioned, MUST have a date function.
I'm the same way. So that leaves 1680, 16800, 168000, and 16610. Or you could look for a Sea Dweller - 16660 or 16600 (1665's are also ridiculous expensive, even the great whites).
Leaning 16800. The search begins. And it will be a long one as I am in no rush whatsoever.
Thanks all for chiming in and helping. :cheers:
Lunar Oyster (Kirill Yuzh) has a 1986 16800 up for sale. Gloss dial and applied markers. Box and papers. Condition looks pretty good to me for a 33 year old watch, but I'm no expert regarding original case condition, dials, hands, inserts, etc. Might be worth reaching out to Kirill if you're interested. I've done a few deals with him and always found him to be responsive and fair.

https://www.lunaroyster.com/watches/198 ... amp-papers

By way of comparison, he also has a 16800 matte dial from 1981 and a 16610 from 1990.

https://www.lunaroyster.com/watches/198 ... low-patina

https://www.lunaroyster.com/watches/198 ... low-patina
I think Kirill does describe the condition well and price accurately. But holy crap, when did a 16710 become an $18.5k watch???
https://www.lunaroyster.com/watches/nos ... 6-movement
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NOS + 3186

Rolex nerds pay an individual premium for either of those, and if you combine the two, you get “extra special”!
those are the guys who fuck up the watch gig for me
Yeah, the prices on these are ridiculous. The funny thing is, depending on who you talk to, some consider the older 3185 a better, more reliable movement (though I imagine it's just splitting hairs). It's just a matter of rarity. Very few 16710's were made with the 3186 before Rolex switched to the maxi case and ceramic bezel.
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