Down jacket ideas
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Down jacket ideas
A few years back one of our local Colorado companies who made outdoor gear called Go-Lite closed up. Which sucked because they carried good gear at a great price. They just started a new company called My Trail Co. The name is not my favorite by any means. But for the price I might have to check them. https://mytrailco.com/
Website: http://smallwhitestubbies.com/
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Those prices aren’t bad at all for 850 fill. I’d be concerned with the shell for the rough stuff. 10D is going to need a lot of patches eventually. Probably great for around town, though.
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They use some form of ethically sourced down - kudos to them for that. That's a dividing line between a brand I might buy and one I absolutely wouldn't. Assuming that the standard is worth anything, these are by far the cheapest ethically sourced down jackets I've ever seen.
Too bad they don't have anything fully baffled and suitable for the serious cold. I want one of these
But they're $900 and they screwed up the shoulder construction creating a cold spot.
Too bad they don't have anything fully baffled and suitable for the serious cold. I want one of these
But they're $900 and they screwed up the shoulder construction creating a cold spot.
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^^^^ For that kind of money you are better off with Western Mountaineering or Feathered Friends. Made in the USA and they are down specialists. There is no better down product on the market IMO.
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As far as I know, neither of them guarantee that their down isn't live-plucked. That's a deal breaker for me.
On edit: FF is now using the RDS standard. It looks like more brands are getting on board with that. When I first looked it was Patagonia and... nobody.
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Maybe I try one of these next time:
They have jumped on the ethical down bandwaggon too.
They have jumped on the ethical down bandwaggon too.
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North Face has also followed the RDS for a few years.
Feathered Friends is also on the list.
https://responsibledown.org/find-respon ... -standard/
Feathered Friends is also on the list.
https://responsibledown.org/find-respon ... -standard/
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$1400 Cdn, which is only like $65 Usd...lol.JP Chestnut wrote:Maybe I try one of these next time:
They have jumped on the ethical down bandwaggon too.
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It's about a grand in USD, not on sale. The upside of this one is that you could conceivably wear it over normal clothes, rather than something like this
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I've had this one in navy for years. 700 fill RDS. Love it...
https://www.thenorthface.com/shop/mens- ... tionId=KX7
https://www.thenorthface.com/shop/mens- ... tionId=KX7
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Western also claims they do not use live-plucked down.JP Chestnut wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 7:01 amAs far as I know, neither of them guarantee that their down isn't live-plucked. That's a deal breaker for me.
On edit: FF is now using the RDS standard. It looks like more brands are getting on board with that. When I first looked it was Patagonia and... nobody.
But yeah, the other thing with both of them is they certainly follow function over form. Not an issue in the mountains, but walking down the street...yes .
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I got Canada Goose on sale at Nordstrom's couple of years ago. Real Coyote trim and super warm.
I survived -30-35C in Eastern Europe in that coat
I survived -30-35C in Eastern Europe in that coat
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And the jacket ain’t bad, either.JP Chestnut wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 7:08 amMaybe I try one of these next time:
They have jumped on the ethical down bandwaggon too.
“Punishable by fine” = Legal for a price.”
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Feathered Friends Eos is my next down. I don't think I need an expedition weight down here in DC lol.. I've got a non-technical Arcteryx that is shedding like crazy which is putting me off from buying the Cerium LT.
Cotopaxi also entered the down game recently. They have b-corp certification like Patagonia which makes me feel better about buying from them.
Cotopaxi also entered the down game recently. They have b-corp certification like Patagonia which makes me feel better about buying from them.
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Feathered Friends is nice but it seems like all of their coats are puffy looking ones and barely cover the butt.
Canada Goose is my preference YMMV
Canada Goose is my preference YMMV
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Surprisingly few of these jackets cover anything between your butt and knee. I guess when you're all suited up for serious shit you don't need the extra jacket cover.
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They are designed to be worn while wearing a climbing harness. You could probably wear other types of harnesses as well, but Terry might be able to comment on that a bit betterJP Chestnut wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 10:11 amSurprisingly few of these jackets cover anything between your butt and knee. I guess when you're all suited up for serious shit you don't need the extra jacket cover.
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Some of them are, but not a bivy jacket - as far as I know.Chocodove wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 10:17 amThey are designed to be worn while wearing a climbing harness. You could probably wear other types of harnesses as well, but Terry might be able to comment on that a bit betterJP Chestnut wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 10:11 amSurprisingly few of these jackets cover anything between your butt and knee. I guess when you're all suited up for serious shit you don't need the extra jacket cover.
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JP Chestnut wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 10:11 amSurprisingly few of these jackets cover anything between your butt and knee. I guess when you're all suited up for serious shit you don't need the extra jacket cover.
I like my winter coat to cover enough that I don't have a suit sticking out lower than the jacket. Coat vs Bomber type I guess is what I'm trying to say
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Belay jacket and bivy jacket are pretty much interchangeable. If you are actually bivying in the traditional sense wearing only a jacket you are A: probably fucked and B: clipped into something so you don't fall off the mountain/cliff/ledge as you nod off hoping to not freeze to death.JP Chestnut wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 10:20 amSome of them are, but not a bivy jacket - as far as I know.Chocodove wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 10:17 amThey are designed to be worn while wearing a climbing harness. You could probably wear other types of harnesses as well, but Terry might be able to comment on that a bit betterJP Chestnut wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 10:11 amSurprisingly few of these jackets cover anything between your butt and knee. I guess when you're all suited up for serious shit you don't need the extra jacket cover.
Then there is what is usually called "expedition length", which are typically heavier fill and look like michelin man parkas. They'll have two way zippers so you can unzip the bottom to access your belay device, tie in, etc.
I used to work in the outdoor industry and can talk for days about this if anyone is actually interested
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I am wearing a Canada Goose white duck down right now.
Keeps me very warm although it does not get all that cold here.
I am told, these work very well in colder climates.
Was that wrong? Should I not have done that?
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I'm as much of a climber as a diver so that's all over my head but I don't wanna freeze my balls so
I'm just trying to avoid this look and Canada Goose helps
I'm just trying to avoid this look and Canada Goose helps
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So, educate a noob to the puffy jacket.. ( I tend to wear thinner multiple layers to be able to adapt to the rapidly changing Colorado weather).
What is this 850, 700 etc fill?
What is this 850, 700 etc fill?
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These all weigh the same. Higher number holds more air and hence keeps you warmer.
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https://www.heddels.com/2018/01/down-fi ... plained-2/DoctorC wrote:So, educate a noob to the puffy jacket.. ( I tend to wear thinner multiple layers to be able to adapt to the rapidly changing Colorado weather).
What is this 850, 700 etc fill?
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