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Re: New Coffee Set-up

Post by Grahamcombat » Sat Jan 07, 2017 11:57 am

greenlightning wrote:I believe that is a blade grinder in the auto set up

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Flat machined burrs, redesigned from the older conical shaped burrs of previous models.


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Re: New Coffee Set-up

Post by HapaHapa » Sat Jan 07, 2017 2:54 pm

matt.wu wrote:
I'm looking into drip machines w/ a filter (I think I prefer a more clear coffee, in general), so I'm probably picking up either a Chemex setup (which I've used many times before) or a Technivorm Moccamaster, which seems to get pretty great reviews.
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Re: New Coffee Set-up

Post by greenlightning » Sat Jan 07, 2017 3:08 pm

Grahamcombat wrote:
greenlightning wrote:I believe that is a blade grinder in the auto set up

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That's sweet. Didn't realize that. I used to have a Cuisinart auto that grinder, but was blade grinder. Not terrible, but was noticeably inferior to burr

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Re: New Coffee Set-up

Post by HapaHapa » Sat Jan 07, 2017 3:48 pm

dnslater wrote:I do cold brew from time to time. Just pour filtered water in a ball jar with grounds and let sit overnight and then pour through a coffee filter. I have also just done it in a french press, which is easier.

Whenever I add coffee to a batch of the beer I make (Porters/Stouts) I go cold brew. Because hot water never touches the beans, it doesn't pull out the tannins and such that aren't good for beer or the head. Also this contributes to a less bitter coffee.
I'm going to pick a cold brew system to try out. Having coffee I can just pour any time would fit my pace well.
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Re: New Coffee Set-up

Post by Grahamcombat » Mon Jan 23, 2017 12:02 pm

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I went with the Breville for our day to day coffee needs. For espressos and such we run the Magnifica.

Attempted to get it through Seattle Coffee Gear but they were an absolute shit show of incompetence - they're the KOBOLD of coffee gear.

So I found the same exact machine on Amazon for over $100 less and it arrived free the next day with a warranty. Buy Amazon=buy local! (at least for me it does) I've had it for a few days and love it. We've run the carafe a few times but find it fits our lives better just doing single cup pours.




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Re: New Coffee Set-up

Post by toxicavenger » Mon Jan 23, 2017 12:22 pm

Grahamcombat wrote: I went with the Breville for our day to day coffee needs. For espressos and such we run the Magnifica.

Attempted to get it through Seattle Coffee Gear but they were an absolute shit show of incompetence - they're the KOBOLD of coffee gear.
Damn sorry to hear about. They have been great for years for me.

Either way let me know how the Magnifica works out. That might be my next one.

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Re: New Coffee Set-up

Post by Grahamcombat » Mon Jan 23, 2017 12:32 pm

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Grahamcombat wrote: I went with the Breville for our day to day coffee needs. For espressos and such we run the Magnifica.

Attempted to get it through Seattle Coffee Gear but they were an absolute shit show of incompetence - they're the KOBOLD of coffee gear.
Damn sorry to hear about. They have been great for years for me.

Either way let me know how the Magnifica works out. That might be my next one.
We've had the Magnifica for about 7 years. It's awesome. I baby it so I won't have to worry about replacing it.

Buy without regret, fear, or worry. The thing is amazing.


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Re: New Coffee Set-up

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Grahamcombat wrote:Image

I went with the Breville for our day to day coffee needs. For espressos and such we run the Magnifica.

Attempted to get it through Seattle Coffee Gear but they were an absolute shit show of incompetence - they're the KOBOLD of coffee gear.

So I found the same exact machine on Amazon for over $100 less and it arrived free the next day with a warranty. Buy Amazon=buy local! (at least for me it does) I've had it for a few days and love it. We've run the carafe a few times but find it fits our lives better just doing single cup pours.



Sorry to hear SCG wasn't on their A game. Like Terry I've used them for years and had nothing but great service. I do know they just closed their Alderwood store and have been re consolidating at their Lynwood location. Was by last week and looked a bit hectic. Looks like a great set up you have there. We have the minuto and use the heck out of it for espresso and the odd cup of coffee when a full pot isn't called for. Still got to try that Camino Coffee.
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Re: New Coffee Set-up

Post by Denizen » Mon Jan 23, 2017 5:47 pm

hobbit712 wrote:I have had good luck with this one.

https://www.amazon.com/Cuisinart-DBM-8- ... 6PZ9GMP7EY

Most of the above are high speed "conical" grinders. Most of the real slow speed ones are commercial and/or expensive. You get what you pay for sometimes. I just have not pulled the trigger on a very good one.
The Cusinart is a basic good grinder to get your feet wet if grinding coffee beans is new to you. The Bonavita line is a nice step up from your basic drip machines.

Peets for my coffee beans for a number of years now, but I'm trying a few other ones these last few months.

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Re: New Coffee Set-up

Post by Grahamcombat » Wed Jan 25, 2017 12:40 pm

Well, they're (SCG) the ones that sent me the link to answer the guys question. Why would you send a link to a customer you didn't have a good experience with? Seems like you're asking for it at that point.
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Re: New Coffee Set-up

Post by Grahamcombat » Wed Jan 25, 2017 5:08 pm

Interesting little development: SCG removed my answer (Well played, SCG, well played) AND they dropped the price of their unit $100 to match Amazon's price. So they seem to be more responsive to a negative association than being pre-sponsive to a positive one. Still will never be a customer for the way they handled the whole week of ordeals, but I'm glad others are going to benefit from my interaction. Probably would've been easier for them to do that in the first place.


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Post by matt.wu » Wed Jan 25, 2017 5:09 pm

Expound here on your experience. I'd love to hear it. I had a good transaction, but it was my first with them.
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Post by Grahamcombat » Wed Jan 25, 2017 5:30 pm

My first as well. Started Day 1 with a phone call from them about my order being fraudulent, so I called back, and they were unable to find my order. Spent about 25 mins on the phone, nobody could resolve it and I was advised "it wouldn't be a problem". Got same call on Day 2, so I called back. Spent another 20 mins or so on and off hold while they tried to again find what I was calling about. No resolution Day 2, but was again advised "no problem, product will process and ship". So on Day 3, I get another call that says my order will be cancelled soon due to 1) suspicions of fraudulent activity based upon, partially, 2) my lack of response in contacting them. So call for third time. Day 3 phone call says "sorry for your problem" and "we have no record of your order" all the way to "oops we billed you twice". As the phone call ends I'm reassured everything is now squared away. Day 4 dawns with a voicemail that indeed, due to the suspicious nature of me being billed twice they are going to cancel the order because I have not made any attempt to contact them. So, on the fourth phone call of the week (Thursday) I am not able to get ahold of anyone despite 6 attempts. Yep, 6. So on the 7th attempt I route myself to "commercial sales" and they answer immediately. I spend a few minutes going over the fiasco and the guys says he'd like me to go through the ordering process again and they'll sort it out.

I politely replied that I had heard about them on a forum, that I liked the idea of buying local, and that I liked the idea that they were 'specialists', and liked the idea that I could drop into their shop when I got back on the west coast BUT at that point, based on their inability to manage a single simple order, had decided to 1) buy the same thing 2) on Amazon 3) for $100 less and 4) have it tomorrow. Which happened. And it's great.

I don't ask for much, but a basic level of competence - having talked with three separate employees throughout the week - doesn't seem out of hand.


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Post by Captdave » Wed Jan 25, 2017 7:26 pm

Grahamcombat wrote:My first as well. Started Day 1 with a phone call from them about my order being fraudulent, so I called back, and they were unable to find my order. Spent about 25 mins on the phone, nobody could resolve it and I was advised "it wouldn't be a problem". Got same call on Day 2, so I called back. Spent another 20 mins or so on and off hold while they tried to again find what I was calling about. No resolution Day 2, but was again advised "no problem, product will process and ship". So on Day 3, I get another call that says my order will be cancelled soon due to 1) suspicions of fraudulent activity based upon, partially, 2) my lack of response in contacting them. So call for third time. Day 3 phone call says "sorry for your problem" and "we have no record of your order" all the way to "oops we billed you twice". As the phone call ends I'm reassured everything is now squared away. Day 4 dawns with a voicemail that indeed, due to the suspicious nature of me being billed twice they are going to cancel the order because I have not made any attempt to contact them. So, on the fourth phone call of the week (Thursday) I am not able to get ahold of anyone despite 6 attempts. Yep, 6. So on the 7th attempt I route myself to "commercial sales" and they answer immediately. I spend a few minutes going over the fiasco and the guys says he'd like me to go through the ordering process again and they'll sort it out.


I politely replied that I had heard about them on a forum, that I liked the idea of buying local, and that I liked the idea that they were 'specialists', and liked the idea that I could drop into their shop when I got back on the west coast BUT at that point, based on their inability to manage a single simple order, had decided to 1) buy the same thing 2) on Amazon 3) for $100 less and 4) have it tomorrow. Which happened. And it's great.

I don't ask for much, but a basic level of competence - having talked with three separate employees throughout the week - doesn't seem out of hand.


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Wow! That's a horrible experience! I've always just dropped in and picked up my products never ordered from them. If I had your experience I'd be purchasing from another local like Amazon too.
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Post by toxicavenger » Wed Jan 25, 2017 7:37 pm

Damn Graham sorry to hear that. I would have gone to amazon after the second phone call.

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Grahamcombat wrote:Image

I went with the Breville for our day to day coffee needs. For espressos and such we run the Magnifica.

Attempted to get it through Seattle Coffee Gear but they were an absolute shit show of incompetence - they're the KOBOLD of coffee gear.

So I found the same exact machine on Amazon for over $100 less and it arrived free the next day with a warranty. Buy Amazon=buy local! (at least for me it does) I've had it for a few days and love it. We've run the carafe a few times but find it fits our lives better just doing single cup pours.




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Why the Breville for day to day?

We stayed with a friend who had an older model DeLonghi machine, I liked it a lot and am now shopping for something for us. Which would you recommend for day to day cups of coffee? One review I read said the Brewville took six minutes to make a single cup? The DeLonghi we used was much quicker than that.

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Post by Grahamcombat » Sat Feb 04, 2017 6:20 pm

james80 wrote:
Grahamcombat wrote:Image

I went with the Breville for our day to day coffee needs. For espressos and such we run the Magnifica.

Attempted to get it through Seattle Coffee Gear but they were an absolute shit show of incompetence - they're the KOBOLD of coffee gear.

So I found the same exact machine on Amazon for over $100 less and it arrived free the next day with a warranty. Buy Amazon=buy local! (at least for me it does) I've had it for a few days and love it. We've run the carafe a few times but find it fits our lives better just doing single cup pours.




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Why the Breville for day to day?

We stayed with a friend who had an older model DeLonghi machine, I liked it a lot and am now shopping for something for us. Which would you recommend for day to day cups of coffee? One review I read said the Brewville took six minutes to make a single cup? The DeLonghi we used was much quicker than that.
The delonghi is faster, yes, but it's not making coffee, it's making espresso. So while initially faster to get the shots, you still need to draw the hot water to turn it into an americano. Americanos are great but they're no cup of good black coffee.

Hence the Breville. Sure it takes between 4 and six minutes, depending on how much you want to brew, but I'm not so busy that I can't spare 5 minutes for a fresh ground hot cup.


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Post by Grahamcombat » Sat Feb 04, 2017 6:49 pm

So you intrigued me enough to go do a little time experiment between the two. The Breville won, btw, but here's the results for brewing a 14oz cup. I started both machines full of water and beans, but turned off.

The DeLonghi Magnifica turns on by pressing the front power button and then it takes itself through an automated warming and rinsing cycle for 60 seconds. You then press the desired brew, which I selected as "long shot", and it begins to grind the beans and transfer to the press and start to brew. This too took about a minute as the first drips from the Magnifica started at 2:05 and finished at 2:45. I then had to select "add water" and manually swing the steam wand and turn the button to start adding hot water, which put us at the 3:00 mark. To fill the remainder of the cup took :52 seconds. Total time for 14oz Americano 3:52 and 6 interactions with the machine, including needing to be present for the entire thing.

Now for the Breville. From the off position, I touched the "cup/carafe" button and it immediately powered on, showing "14oz" on the display, and I then touched "start". Total time about :02 seconds. The display, after touching start, displays the remaining time, and it indicated 3:13 as it began counting down. It grinds and transfers the beans and began brewing with 1:15 remaining, and was finished :17 seconds later. Total time for a 14oz strong-setting cup of coffee was 2:15 with two button presses, both of which happened in the first 2 seconds, leaving me to go away and not have to babysit the machine.

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Now I'm off to watch The Arrival for family movie night and drink two cups of coffee.


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Re: New Coffee Set-up

Post by james80 » Sun Feb 05, 2017 12:23 pm

Great info, thanks Matt.

The one we used was a DeLonghi Caffe Corso machine not sure if it's different to the magnifica but we set it to two cups and max cup size and we got full cups without adding any water.

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Post by Grahamcombat » Sun Feb 05, 2017 12:50 pm

james80 wrote:Great info, thanks Matt.

The one we used was a DeLonghi Caffe Corso machine not sure if it's different to the magnifica but we set it to two cups and max cup size and we got full cups without adding any water.
I think some of the "differences" are the cup size. The Magnifica has three cup settings: single shot, double shot, and long shot. Yet the long shot is only about 4.5 ounces, so you'd still need water for "coffee" or just have a cup of espresso.

The biggest difference is the Breville won't make espresso, it's just a coffee maker. But it makes making fresh ground coffee - of any size - super easy.


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Re: New Coffee Set-up

Post by unsub073 » Mon Feb 13, 2017 11:37 am

toxicavenger wrote:
Thu Jan 05, 2017 3:35 pm
My craigslist espresso machine and burr grinder. I have a bottomless filter so it does a decent pull of espresso.
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Based on your recommendation in another coffee thread, I got the grinder for X-mas this year, and just used it for the first time. Major difference between grinding your own beans vs pre-ground stuff. Thanks again. :thumbsup:

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Mon Feb 13, 2017 11:37 am
Based on your recommendation in another coffee thread, I got the grinder for X-mas this year, and just used it for the first time. Major difference between grinding your own beans vs pre-ground stuff. Thanks again. :thumbsup:
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Re: New Coffee Set-up

Post by fastward » Sat Mar 04, 2017 1:14 pm

I drink coffee in quantity, so this was a gift from the wife for Christmas. However, I usually have few packs of GoCubes in my bag when I'm on the road.
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