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Re: Denim

Post by fastward » Sat Mar 03, 2018 7:57 am

Different price point than watches, so you can go down the rabbit hole fast.

The whole not washing thing seems to have been replaced by wash your pants.
Not sure if people are sitting doing soaks in the tub either.

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Re: Denim

Post by fastward » Sat Mar 03, 2018 8:02 am

This is what I am wearing mostly. Two pairs of RGT and a pair of PBJ.
ImageI’ll break out the lighter weight Tellasons and Shockoes when the weather warms up.
However, I have a few pairs of Levi’s 513 for traveling, the stretch is nice.

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Post by Chocodove » Sat Mar 03, 2018 8:10 am

fastward wrote:This is what I am wearing mostly. Two pairs of RGT and a pair of PBJ.
ImageI’ll break out the lighter weight Tellasons and Shockoes when the weather warms up.
However, I have a few pairs of Levi’s 513 for traveling, the stretch is nice.
Love the PBJ denim. I have a pair of XX-005’s, which is the wrong fit for me and I don’t wear them much as a result unfortunately.

I’ve tried going back to regular denim several times, but I just can’t do it. I guess a comparison would be like going from a nice mechanical watch to a quartz Fossil. Once you’ve made the switch it’s hard to go back.
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Re: Denim

Post by fastward » Sat Mar 03, 2018 8:15 am

Chocodove wrote:
fastward wrote:This is what I am wearing mostly. Two pairs of RGT and a pair of PBJ.
ImageI’ll break out the lighter weight Tellasons and Shockoes when the weather warms up.
However, I have a few pairs of Levi’s 513 for traveling, the stretch is nice.
Love the PBJ denim. I have a pair of XX-005’s, which is the wrong fit for me and I don’t wear them much as a result unfortunately.
I have the XX-012s. They are finally breaking in after a year.

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Re: Denim

Post by ericf4 » Sat Mar 03, 2018 10:19 am

So how much do pants like that cost?

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Re: Denim

Post by fastward » Sat Mar 03, 2018 10:31 am

It’s like watches, there’s a difference. Typically, they can range from sub $100, ie Levis, Unbranded, up to $700 for Japanese denim.

Rogue Territory is around $220-270 and Pure Blue Japan start around $300.
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Re: Denim

Post by dukerules » Sat Mar 03, 2018 10:33 am

I bet Eric has a pair of selvage denim before the month is out.


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Post by fastward » Sat Mar 03, 2018 10:34 am

dukerules wrote:
Sat Mar 03, 2018 10:33 am
I bet Eric has a pair of selvage denim before the month is out.
Before the weekend is over. :lol:

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Post by jtbenson » Sat Mar 03, 2018 10:35 am

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Re: Denim

Post by fastward » Sat Mar 03, 2018 10:36 am

ericf4 wrote:
Sat Mar 03, 2018 10:19 am
So how much do pants like that cost?

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This is near you. They are one of the places to go in Chicago.

https://mildblend.com

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Post by ericf4 » Sat Mar 03, 2018 10:39 am

fastward wrote:
ericf4 wrote:
Sat Mar 03, 2018 10:19 am
So how much do pants like that cost?

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This is near you. They are one of the places to go in Chicago.

https://mildblend.com
I'll check it.

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Re: Denim

Post by fastward » Sat Mar 03, 2018 10:40 am

ericf4 wrote:
Sat Mar 03, 2018 10:39 am
fastward wrote:
ericf4 wrote:
Sat Mar 03, 2018 10:19 am
So how much do pants like that cost?

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This is near you. They are one of the places to go in Chicago.

https://mildblend.com
I'll check it.

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Biggest mistake when buying the first pair is getting the wrong size.

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Post by HapaHapa » Sat Mar 03, 2018 11:45 am

Aside from $300 flannel shirts they have a killer logo. Image
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Post by ericf4 » Sat Mar 03, 2018 12:39 pm

fastward wrote:
ericf4 wrote:
Sat Mar 03, 2018 10:39 am
fastward wrote:
ericf4 wrote:
Sat Mar 03, 2018 10:19 am
So how much do pants like that cost?

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This is near you. They are one of the places to go in Chicago.

https://mildblend.com
I'll check it.

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Biggest mistake when buying the first pair is getting the wrong size.
Why are sizes not typical to other jeans?

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Post by Chocodove » Sat Mar 03, 2018 12:44 pm

ericf4 wrote:
fastward wrote:
ericf4 wrote:
Sat Mar 03, 2018 10:39 am
fastward wrote:
ericf4 wrote:
Sat Mar 03, 2018 10:19 am
So how much do pants like that cost?

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This is near you. They are one of the places to go in Chicago.

https://mildblend.com
I'll check it.

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Biggest mistake when buying the first pair is getting the wrong size.
Why are sizes not typical to other jeans?

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You have to account for shrinkage and stretch. Unsanforized raw denim will shrink (sometimes significantly) when washed or soaked. But then it will also stretch. I’ll admit, it’s a pain in the ass until you find the right size/fit. Sometimes quite literally - break in periods can be brutal. But all worth it in the end IMO.

The “entry level” to raw denim is usually the APC New Standard. They are sanforized and won’t shrink much, though they stretch like crazy. They are a good starting point to see if you like it.
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Re: Denim

Post by fastward » Sat Mar 03, 2018 12:49 pm

ericf4 wrote:
fastward wrote:
ericf4 wrote:
Sat Mar 03, 2018 10:39 am
fastward wrote:
ericf4 wrote:
Sat Mar 03, 2018 10:19 am
So how much do pants like that cost?

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This is near you. They are one of the places to go in Chicago.

https://mildblend.com
I'll check it.

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Biggest mistake when buying the first pair is getting the wrong size.
Why are sizes not typical to other jeans?

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Vanity sizing. Sizes differ from brand to brand and sometime between different cuts from the same brand.
For example, 3sixteen is not vanity sized, a 34 is roughly a 34. Rogue Territory is vanity sized, so a 31 is actually a 34.

Unsanforized denim isn’t pre-shrunk, so you need to rely on what the predicted shrinkage will be. You can control how much it shrinks by how you wash it and by the temp.
It get complicated.

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Re: Denim

Post by ericf4 » Sat Mar 03, 2018 12:59 pm

Oh fuck it all. I wear 34 normally. Sounds like a crapshoot on what to buy.

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Re: Denim

Post by Selym » Sat Mar 03, 2018 1:03 pm

ericf4 wrote:
Sat Mar 03, 2018 12:59 pm
Oh fuck it all. I wear 34 normally. Sounds like a crapshoot on what to buy.

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My wife bought me a pair of J Crew Japanese selvedge blah blah blah and they're the size I normally buy (not vanity sized). I'm not sure how they compare to other fancy jeans, but they have held up well and fit well. I do wash them, and they haven't shrunk of faded much.

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Post by ericf4 » Sat Mar 03, 2018 1:05 pm

So high level question. What's the overall benefit to selvedge? Other than spending 10x. Too lazy to sift thru 200 posts.

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Re: Denim

Post by fastward » Sat Mar 03, 2018 1:06 pm

ericf4 wrote:
Sat Mar 03, 2018 12:59 pm
Oh fuck it all. I wear 34 normally. Sounds like a crapshoot on what to buy.

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That’s why you go to MildBlend. :lol:

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Re: Denim

Post by fastward » Sat Mar 03, 2018 1:15 pm

ericf4 wrote:
Sat Mar 03, 2018 1:05 pm
So high level question. What's the overall benefit to selvedge? Other than spending 10x. Too lazy to sift thru 200 posts.

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IMO selvedge is better quality than more model denim. Raw denim is unlike your clasp. The wear and tear is unique to you.

As for manufacturing, there is more transparency, ie, RGT is made in LA, Tellason is made in SF, N&F is made in Canada. More info on the mills, etc. Japanese brands have unique denim made for them.

If you care about those things it’s worth it. Otherwise, it may not be.

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Re: Denim

Post by Chocodove » Sat Mar 03, 2018 1:17 pm

ericf4 wrote:So high level question. What's the overall benefit to selvedge? Other than spending 10x. Too lazy to sift thru 200 posts.

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Overall quality/attention to detail and the fact that they form to your body after a while. Once the fit is dialed in they really become your own and fade like you’ll never see on crap denim.
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Re: Denim

Post by ericf4 » Sat Mar 03, 2018 1:21 pm

Sounds cool and can be a rabbit hole. I'll have to try this. Same thing happened from a thread about shaving with old school razors etc. Now I'm into that whole scene. Lol. Love it btw.

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Re: Denim

Post by fastward » Sat Mar 03, 2018 1:21 pm

Also, raw denim avoids the treatment that most jeans got through to look aged. Waste of water and harsh chemicals are used.

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Post by CGSshorty » Sat Mar 03, 2018 1:28 pm

fastward wrote:This is what I am wearing mostly. Two pairs of RGT and a pair of PBJ.
ImageI’ll break out the lighter weight Tellasons and Shockoes when the weather warms up.
However, I have a few pairs of Levi’s 513 for traveling, the stretch is nice.
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