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Re: Denim

Post by DoctorC » Sat Apr 13, 2019 12:17 pm

Fridays at the office are usually Jean days.
I overheard a coworker say that she did not like jeans because they just aren't comfortable. I replied that if you aren't pulling on your jeans and go, ahhhhhhh.... :love:
You're just buying the wrong jeans. :shrug:
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Re: Denim

Post by hoppyjr » Sat Apr 13, 2019 12:48 pm

Torrid wrote:
HapaHapa wrote:
Sun Apr 07, 2019 3:08 pm
Bought a couple pair of 505’s, one with stretch just to try them out and also the color wasn’t available otherwise. They slide down. Not impressed. Going to have to wear a belt and won’t be buying stretch anymore.
I got some non stretch 505 non distressed for work use, but they’re a bit baggier in the leg than I like, but since I’m wearing them with 8 inch Red Wings they look ok. I think I’m spoiled by the slimmer better fitting selvedge.
jswing wrote:
Sun Apr 07, 2019 4:17 pm
Torrid wrote:
jswing wrote:
Sun Apr 07, 2019 4:54 am
Torrid wrote:
Sat Apr 06, 2019 9:45 pm
jswing wrote:
Thu Jun 07, 2018 4:27 am
Torrid wrote:
Thu Jun 07, 2018 12:27 am
jswing wrote:
Tue Jun 05, 2018 4:35 pm
Torrid wrote:I now have a ridiculous amount of jeans but Levi has a great sale on their website on 511 selvedge jeans so I ordered two pair. I combined that with 20% off from joining their mailing list and got each pair for $61 each. They’re the first pair of selvedge stitch jeans I’ve ever bought. I’ve never had slimmer fit jeans but all my jeans are really baggy in the legs so they should fit me well.
I wish I'd seen that, the sale is over now and they're back up to $148. 511 is a nice cut, not skinny but not dad jeans.

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Good to know. I had my concerns since it was listed as slim, but I find the pant legs to be too baggy on my 514s for anything other than jeans and if I’m really slumming it with flip flops I don’t like how the non selvedge cut looks rolled up.
I used to avoid anything labeled slim, but my wife convinced me to try them, and I've come to like a slightly slimmer cut. Still won't wear skinny jeans. Ever. I also haven't bought any non selvedge since I got my first pair of selvedge.
Just curious but have you had any luck finding more non stretch selvedge 511s? It doesn’t look like Levi’s makes them anymore.
No, but I haven't actually looked. I found a new (to me) brand that I really like. Bravestar Denim - made in the US of either American (Cone Mills stock) or Japanese selvedge, usually under $100.
I’ll have to check them out. Looks like the slim selvedge non stretch Levi’s have sailed.
I just pre ordered a pair of 14 oz Cone Mills denim they just released today - pre order price is $68. The particular denim is called Golden Handshake, a reference to their original handshake deal to provide denim to Levis for the 501. Anyway, they're well made and I like the fit better than anything else I've tried.

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Did you get the slim straights they offer? I’m going to try some.
The 505 of today kinda sucks. The old 505’s were basically 501’s with a zipper fly. The newer 505’s have “extra room in the seat & thigh”. For a no-ass old dude like me I don’t need any more room in the seat or thigh.

I’ve had three pairs of 501’s (Made other than USA) have the rear belt loops pull away from the denim material for no apparent reason. It leaves nothing to stitch back onto and the loops that have failed aren’t under any particular stress (unlike the occasional side loop that sees wear against holsters & mag carriers). I’ve saved the last two pair and will be contacting Levi’s.

I ordered a couple pair of Made in USA 501’s and hope they hold up better.


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Re: Denim

Post by HapaHapa » Sat Apr 13, 2019 3:00 pm

DoctorC wrote:
Sat Apr 13, 2019 12:14 pm
HapaHapa wrote:
Sun Apr 07, 2019 3:08 pm
Bought a couple pair of 505’s, one with stretch just to try them out and also the color wasn’t available otherwise. They slide down. Not impressed. Going to have to wear a belt and won’t be buying stretch anymore.
With stretch denim I have found that I need to size down 1-2 inches in the waist.
I have a pair of lightweight 10.5 oz stretch selvedge from a collaboration of Massdrop and Naked and famous and they are some of the most comfortable jeans I own.
https://www.massdrop.com/buy/massdrop-x ... ch-selvage
Thanks for the tip. I'll wear thick boxers and give them a chance.

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Re: Denim

Post by Torrid » Sat Apr 13, 2019 3:01 pm

hoppyjr wrote:
Sat Apr 13, 2019 12:48 pm
Torrid wrote:
HapaHapa wrote:
Sun Apr 07, 2019 3:08 pm
Bought a couple pair of 505’s, one with stretch just to try them out and also the color wasn’t available otherwise. They slide down. Not impressed. Going to have to wear a belt and won’t be buying stretch anymore.
I got some non stretch 505 non distressed for work use, but they’re a bit baggier in the leg than I like, but since I’m wearing them with 8 inch Red Wings they look ok. I think I’m spoiled by the slimmer better fitting selvedge.
jswing wrote:
Sun Apr 07, 2019 4:17 pm
Torrid wrote:
jswing wrote:
Sun Apr 07, 2019 4:54 am
Torrid wrote:
Sat Apr 06, 2019 9:45 pm
jswing wrote:
Thu Jun 07, 2018 4:27 am
Torrid wrote:
Thu Jun 07, 2018 12:27 am
jswing wrote:
Tue Jun 05, 2018 4:35 pm
Torrid wrote:I now have a ridiculous amount of jeans but Levi has a great sale on their website on 511 selvedge jeans so I ordered two pair. I combined that with 20% off from joining their mailing list and got each pair for $61 each. They’re the first pair of selvedge stitch jeans I’ve ever bought. I’ve never had slimmer fit jeans but all my jeans are really baggy in the legs so they should fit me well.
I wish I'd seen that, the sale is over now and they're back up to $148. 511 is a nice cut, not skinny but not dad jeans.

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Good to know. I had my concerns since it was listed as slim, but I find the pant legs to be too baggy on my 514s for anything other than jeans and if I’m really slumming it with flip flops I don’t like how the non selvedge cut looks rolled up.
I used to avoid anything labeled slim, but my wife convinced me to try them, and I've come to like a slightly slimmer cut. Still won't wear skinny jeans. Ever. I also haven't bought any non selvedge since I got my first pair of selvedge.
Just curious but have you had any luck finding more non stretch selvedge 511s? It doesn’t look like Levi’s makes them anymore.
No, but I haven't actually looked. I found a new (to me) brand that I really like. Bravestar Denim - made in the US of either American (Cone Mills stock) or Japanese selvedge, usually under $100.
I’ll have to check them out. Looks like the slim selvedge non stretch Levi’s have sailed.
I just pre ordered a pair of 14 oz Cone Mills denim they just released today - pre order price is $68. The particular denim is called Golden Handshake, a reference to their original handshake deal to provide denim to Levis for the 501. Anyway, they're well made and I like the fit better than anything else I've tried.

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Did you get the slim straights they offer? I’m going to try some.
The 505 of today kinda sucks. The old 505’s were basically 501’s with a zipper fly. The newer 505’s have “extra room in the seat & thigh”. For a no-ass old dude like me I don’t need any more room in the seat or thigh.

I’ve had three pairs of 501’s (Made other than USA) have the rear belt loops pull away from the denim material for no apparent reason. It leaves nothing to stitch back onto and the loops that have failed aren’t under any particular stress (unlike the occasional side loop that sees wear against holsters & mag carriers). I’ve saved the last two pair and will be contacting Levi’s.

I ordered a couple pair of Made in USA 501’s and hope they hold up better.
That’s why I like my selvedge 511s. They are much more trim and much higher quality than my other Levi’s, but they’ve been discontinued for a stretch version. The 505s are ok for work duty since I keep so much stuff in my pockets for work, but there’s no way I would wear them anywhere else. Unfortunately I think it’s time for a different brand. Even the Made & Crafted line is mostly stretch now and even the vintage collection with its old school traditional designs aren’t made in the US anymore. The made in the US version you’re referring to are shrink to fit ones, right?

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Re: Denim

Post by hoppyjr » Sat Apr 13, 2019 3:15 pm

Torrid wrote:
hoppyjr wrote:
Sat Apr 13, 2019 12:48 pm
Torrid wrote:
HapaHapa wrote:
Sun Apr 07, 2019 3:08 pm
Bought a couple pair of 505’s, one with stretch just to try them out and also the color wasn’t available otherwise. They slide down. Not impressed. Going to have to wear a belt and won’t be buying stretch anymore.
I got some non stretch 505 non distressed for work use, but they’re a bit baggier in the leg than I like, but since I’m wearing them with 8 inch Red Wings they look ok. I think I’m spoiled by the slimmer better fitting selvedge.
jswing wrote:
Sun Apr 07, 2019 4:17 pm
Torrid wrote:
jswing wrote:
Sun Apr 07, 2019 4:54 am
Torrid wrote:
Sat Apr 06, 2019 9:45 pm
jswing wrote:
Thu Jun 07, 2018 4:27 am
Torrid wrote:
Thu Jun 07, 2018 12:27 am
jswing wrote:
Tue Jun 05, 2018 4:35 pm
[quote="Torrid"]I now have a ridiculous amount of jeans but Levi has a great sale on their website on 511 selvedge jeans so I ordered two pair. I combined that with 20% off from joining their mailing list and got each pair for $61 each. They’re the first pair of selvedge stitch jeans I’ve ever bought. I’ve never had slimmer fit jeans but all my jeans are really baggy in the legs so they should fit me well.
I wish I'd seen that, the sale is over now and they're back up to $148. 511 is a nice cut, not skinny but not dad jeans.

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Good to know. I had my concerns since it was listed as slim, but I find the pant legs to be too baggy on my 514s for anything other than jeans and if I’m really slumming it with flip flops I don’t like how the non selvedge cut looks rolled up.
I used to avoid anything labeled slim, but my wife convinced me to try them, and I've come to like a slightly slimmer cut. Still won't wear skinny jeans. Ever. I also haven't bought any non selvedge since I got my first pair of selvedge.
Just curious but have you had any luck finding more non stretch selvedge 511s? It doesn’t look like Levi’s makes them anymore.
No, but I haven't actually looked. I found a new (to me) brand that I really like. Bravestar Denim - made in the US of either American (Cone Mills stock) or Japanese selvedge, usually under $100.
I’ll have to check them out. Looks like the slim selvedge non stretch Levi’s have sailed.
I just pre ordered a pair of 14 oz Cone Mills denim they just released today - pre order price is $68. The particular denim is called Golden Handshake, a reference to their original handshake deal to provide denim to Levis for the 501. Anyway, they're well made and I like the fit better than anything else I've tried.

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Did you get the slim straights they offer? I’m going to try some.
The 505 of today kinda sucks. The old 505’s were basically 501’s with a zipper fly. The newer 505’s have “extra room in the seat & thigh”. For a no-ass old dude like me I don’t need any more room in the seat or thigh.

I’ve had three pairs of 501’s (Made other than USA) have the rear belt loops pull away from the denim material for no apparent reason. It leaves nothing to stitch back onto and the loops that have failed aren’t under any particular stress (unlike the occasional side loop that sees wear against holsters & mag carriers). I’ve saved the last two pair and will be contacting Levi’s.

I ordered a couple pair of Made in USA 501’s and hope they hold up better.
That’s why I like my selvedge 511s. They are much more trim and much higher quality than my other Levi’s, but they’ve been discontinued for a stretch version. The 505s are ok for work duty since I keep so much stuff in my pockets for work, but there’s no way I would wear them anywhere else. Unfortunately I think it’s time for a different brand. Even the Made & Crafted line is mostly stretch now and even the vintage collection with its old school traditional designs aren’t made in the US anymore. The made in the US version you’re referring to are shrink to fit ones, right?[/quote]

I actually ended up with a pair of 501 stretch and didn’t mind them at all. In fact, they are only 1% stretch and 99% cotton. I did have to go down 2” in waist, but they are comfortable.


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Re: Denim

Post by dukerules » Sat Apr 13, 2019 3:21 pm

Regular 501s are disposable, cheaply-made denim. The MIU selvedge and Made and Crafted are better. I'm partial to the LVC versions, but those are expensive. Much better cheaper denim out there in 501-type fits from many sources.

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Re: Denim

Post by JBZ » Sat Apr 13, 2019 4:44 pm

I’ve kind of given up on really expensive denim. I’ve had good luck with Ralph Lauren (not RRL, which is pricey). Quality and fits are good for me. I actually have a couple of pairs of LL Bean 1912s, and they aren’t bad.
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Re: Denim

Post by Captdave » Sat Apr 13, 2019 5:29 pm

jswing wrote:
Torrid wrote:
jswing wrote:
Sun Apr 07, 2019 4:54 am
Torrid wrote:
Sat Apr 06, 2019 9:45 pm
jswing wrote:
Thu Jun 07, 2018 4:27 am
Torrid wrote:
Thu Jun 07, 2018 12:27 am
jswing wrote:
Tue Jun 05, 2018 4:35 pm
Torrid wrote:I now have a ridiculous amount of jeans but Levi has a great sale on their website on 511 selvedge jeans so I ordered two pair. I combined that with 20% off from joining their mailing list and got each pair for $61 each. They’re the first pair of selvedge stitch jeans I’ve ever bought. I’ve never had slimmer fit jeans but all my jeans are really baggy in the legs so they should fit me well.
I wish I'd seen that, the sale is over now and they're back up to $148. 511 is a nice cut, not skinny but not dad jeans.

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Good to know. I had my concerns since it was listed as slim, but I find the pant legs to be too baggy on my 514s for anything other than jeans and if I’m really slumming it with flip flops I don’t like how the non selvedge cut looks rolled up.
I used to avoid anything labeled slim, but my wife convinced me to try them, and I've come to like a slightly slimmer cut. Still won't wear skinny jeans. Ever. I also haven't bought any non selvedge since I got my first pair of selvedge.
Just curious but have you had any luck finding more non stretch selvedge 511s? It doesn’t look like Levi’s makes them anymore.
No, but I haven't actually looked. I found a new (to me) brand that I really like. Bravestar Denim - made in the US of either American (Cone Mills stock) or Japanese selvedge, usually under $100.
I’ll have to check them out. Looks like the slim selvedge non stretch Levi’s have sailed.
I just pre ordered a pair of 14 oz Cone Mills denim they just released today - pre order price is $68. The particular denim is called Golden Handshake, a reference to their original handshake deal to provide denim to Levis for the 501. Anyway, they're well made and I like the fit better than anything else I've tried.

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Are these the shrink to fit 501s or just order your regular size?


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Re: Denim

Post by jswing » Sun Apr 14, 2019 4:34 am

Captdave wrote:
Sat Apr 13, 2019 5:29 pm
jswing wrote:
Torrid wrote:
jswing wrote:
Sun Apr 07, 2019 4:54 am
Torrid wrote:
Sat Apr 06, 2019 9:45 pm
jswing wrote:
Thu Jun 07, 2018 4:27 am
Torrid wrote:
Thu Jun 07, 2018 12:27 am
jswing wrote:
Tue Jun 05, 2018 4:35 pm
Torrid wrote:I now have a ridiculous amount of jeans but Levi has a great sale on their website on 511 selvedge jeans so I ordered two pair. I combined that with 20% off from joining their mailing list and got each pair for $61 each. They’re the first pair of selvedge stitch jeans I’ve ever bought. I’ve never had slimmer fit jeans but all my jeans are really baggy in the legs so they should fit me well.
I wish I'd seen that, the sale is over now and they're back up to $148. 511 is a nice cut, not skinny but not dad jeans.

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Good to know. I had my concerns since it was listed as slim, but I find the pant legs to be too baggy on my 514s for anything other than jeans and if I’m really slumming it with flip flops I don’t like how the non selvedge cut looks rolled up.
I used to avoid anything labeled slim, but my wife convinced me to try them, and I've come to like a slightly slimmer cut. Still won't wear skinny jeans. Ever. I also haven't bought any non selvedge since I got my first pair of selvedge.
Just curious but have you had any luck finding more non stretch selvedge 511s? It doesn’t look like Levi’s makes them anymore.
No, but I haven't actually looked. I found a new (to me) brand that I really like. Bravestar Denim - made in the US of either American (Cone Mills stock) or Japanese selvedge, usually under $100.
I’ll have to check them out. Looks like the slim selvedge non stretch Levi’s have sailed.
I just pre ordered a pair of 14 oz Cone Mills denim they just released today - pre order price is $68. The particular denim is called Golden Handshake, a reference to their original handshake deal to provide denim to Levis for the 501. Anyway, they're well made and I like the fit better than anything else I've tried.

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Are these the shrink to fit 501s or just order your regular size?


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They're sanforized, not shrink to fit, so basically just order your normal size. I'd refer to their size chart just to make sure you're getting the right size, I can vary from one brand to another.

https://bravestarselvage.com/pages/sizing

Also I should have added the link to the actual jeans:

https://bravestarselvage.com/products/t ... ls-selvage

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Re: Denim

Post by aikiman44 » Sun Apr 14, 2019 7:39 am

The last couple pairs I got were Naked and Famous. I’m very happy with them. They periodically go on sale on several of the sites that sell them.
Also, the Massdrop N&F denim I bought is great.
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Re: Denim

Post by Captdave » Sun Apr 14, 2019 10:47 am

jswing wrote:
Captdave wrote:
Sat Apr 13, 2019 5:29 pm
jswing wrote:
Torrid wrote:
jswing wrote:
Sun Apr 07, 2019 4:54 am
Torrid wrote:
Sat Apr 06, 2019 9:45 pm
jswing wrote:
Thu Jun 07, 2018 4:27 am
Torrid wrote:
Thu Jun 07, 2018 12:27 am
jswing wrote:
Tue Jun 05, 2018 4:35 pm
Torrid wrote:I now have a ridiculous amount of jeans but Levi has a great sale on their website on 511 selvedge jeans so I ordered two pair. I combined that with 20% off from joining their mailing list and got each pair for $61 each. They’re the first pair of selvedge stitch jeans I’ve ever bought. I’ve never had slimmer fit jeans but all my jeans are really baggy in the legs so they should fit me well.
I wish I'd seen that, the sale is over now and they're back up to $148. 511 is a nice cut, not skinny but not dad jeans.

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Good to know. I had my concerns since it was listed as slim, but I find the pant legs to be too baggy on my 514s for anything other than jeans and if I’m really slumming it with flip flops I don’t like how the non selvedge cut looks rolled up.
I used to avoid anything labeled slim, but my wife convinced me to try them, and I've come to like a slightly slimmer cut. Still won't wear skinny jeans. Ever. I also haven't bought any non selvedge since I got my first pair of selvedge.
Just curious but have you had any luck finding more non stretch selvedge 511s? It doesn’t look like Levi’s makes them anymore.
No, but I haven't actually looked. I found a new (to me) brand that I really like. Bravestar Denim - made in the US of either American (Cone Mills stock) or Japanese selvedge, usually under $100.
I’ll have to check them out. Looks like the slim selvedge non stretch Levi’s have sailed.
I just pre ordered a pair of 14 oz Cone Mills denim they just released today - pre order price is $68. The particular denim is called Golden Handshake, a reference to their original handshake deal to provide denim to Levis for the 501. Anyway, they're well made and I like the fit better than anything else I've tried.

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Are these the shrink to fit 501s or just order your regular size?


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They're sanforized, not shrink to fit, so basically just order your normal size. I'd refer to their size chart just to make sure you're getting the right size, I can vary from one brand to another.

https://bravestarselvage.com/pages/sizing

Also I should have added the link to the actual jeans:

https://bravestarselvage.com/products/t ... ls-selvage
Thanks


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