Good deal on NATO

[Panerai7]

Here is a look at the holes and hardware.

Yeah they're definitely using a hole maker/sealer. That's a $2K machine that makes all of the holes at once and seals them. That's why Hungarian guy had a problem with holes 'cause he obviously didn't want to spend that kinda money for just holes.

[james80]

^^^ How did you take those shots?

I'd also like to know?

[andrema]

^^^ How did you take those shots?

iphone with Moment case & lens


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[HapaHapa]

Here is a look at the holes and hardware.

Yeah they're definitely using a hole maker/sealer. That's a $2K machine that makes all of the holes at once and seals them. That's why Hungarian guy had a problem with holes 'cause he obviously didn't want to spend that kinda money for just holes.

Well I wouldn't spend that kind of money just for the hole either.

[hoppyjr]

Here is a look at the holes and hardware.

Yeah they're definitely using a hole maker/sealer. That's a $2K machine that makes all of the holes at once and seals them. That's why Hungarian guy had a problem with holes 'cause he obviously didn't want to spend that kinda money for just holes.

I prefer to use an existing hole, but I'll need a little blue pill if I'm gonna punch a new one.

[Panerai7]

Here is a look at the holes and hardware.

Yeah they're definitely using a hole maker/sealer. That's a $2K machine that makes all of the holes at once and seals them. That's why Hungarian guy had a problem with holes 'cause he obviously didn't want to spend that kinda money for just holes.

I prefer to use an existing hole, but I'll need a little blue pill if I'm gonna punch a new one.

Does yours make a hole and seals it with one penetration?

[CGSshorty]

These Bonds kind of suck. They are too short and the hardware is too roomy to keep the strap tucked back. I'll be cutting mine up for the hardware I think.

[Panerai7]

These Bonds kind of suck. They are too short and the hardware is too roomy to keep the strap tucked back. I'll be cutting mine up for the hardware I think.

Buckle is already removable. Still waiting on the seatbelt ones.

[toxicavenger]

These Bonds kind of suck. They are too short and the hardware is too roomy to keep the strap tucked back. I'll be cutting mine up for the hardware I think.

They say 300mm, are they not?

[kfalk]

The keepers are spaced weird. The 6:00 needs to be moved higher toward the lugs and the tail keepers are spaced a little further apart then what I'm used to. I do like the hardware.

[CGSshorty]

These Bonds kind of suck. They are too short and the hardware is too roomy to keep the strap tucked back. I'll be cutting mine up for the hardware I think.

They say 300mm, are they not?

The keepers are spaced weird. The 6:00 needs to be moved higher toward the lugs and the tail keepers are spaced a little further apart then what I'm used to. I do like the hardware.

Kelly nailed it. They are long enough but there is a huge gap between the keepers.

[hoppyjr]

My WatchGecko seat belt natos arrived today. Here are some shots on PO and CWC.

This exact material with Terry's hardware (and old style non-spring bar buckle) would be outstanding. 50% thicker would be even better. The material is very soft, so heavier watches will sag unless pulled very tight. I believe these are 1.2 thick, but 1.8 would be ideal, and they'd still be soft.

Either way, they look great.

[streetracer101]

These Bonds kind of suck. They are too short and the hardware is too roomy to keep the strap tucked back. I'll be cutting mine up for the hardware I think.

They say 300mm, are they not?

The keepers are spaced weird. The 6:00 needs to be moved higher toward the lugs and the tail keepers are spaced a little further apart then what I'm used to. I do like the hardware.

Kelly nailed it. They are long enough but there is a huge gap between the keepers.

I agree. They suck. The fabric is different then their standard zulu divers...not very soft. The spacing is weird...too long on the keeper end and too short on the strap hole(s) side. I have 6.5" wrist and don't have enough to tuck under both keepers. If these go into production, I doubt they'll sell well at any price.

[CGSshorty]

These Bonds kind of suck. They are too short and the hardware is too roomy to keep the strap tucked back. I'll be cutting mine up for the hardware I think.

They say 300mm, are they not?

The keepers are spaced weird. The 6:00 needs to be moved higher toward the lugs and the tail keepers are spaced a little further apart then what I'm used to. I do like the hardware.

Kelly nailed it. They are long enough but there is a huge gap between the keepers.

I agree. They suck. The fabric is different then their standard zulu divers...not very soft. The spacing is weird...too long on the keeper end and too short on the strap hole(s) side. I have 6.5" wrist and don't have enough to tuck under both keepers. If these go into production, I doubt they'll sell well at any price.

I've been wearing it on and off for a few days and I don't like them any better. The keepers are enormous compared to the Toxic or Timefactors hardware. They would work well on a leather NATO but are too roomy for nylon.

[Panerai7]

Can't wait to get that seatbelt. Will swap hardware to Terry's square hardware.

[streetracer101]

These Bonds kind of suck. They are too short and the hardware is too roomy to keep the strap tucked back. I'll be cutting mine up for the hardware I think.

They say 300mm, are they not?

The keepers are spaced weird. The 6:00 needs to be moved higher toward the lugs and the tail keepers are spaced a little further apart then what I'm used to. I do like the hardware.

Kelly nailed it. They are long enough but there is a huge gap between the keepers.

I agree. They suck. The fabric is different then their standard zulu divers...not very soft. The spacing is weird...too long on the keeper end and too short on the strap hole(s) side. I have 6.5" wrist and don't have enough to tuck under both keepers. If these go into production, I doubt they'll sell well at any price.

I've been wearing it on and off for a few days and I don't like them any better. The keepers are enormous compared to the Toxic or Timefactors hardware. They would work well on a leather NATO but are too roomy for nylon.

I noticed that too. At first I thought the strap was too thin, but given how stiff it is, increasing the thickness to match the hardware seems bad.

[hoppyjr]

I find the keepers on the seat belt Nato too far apart too (6-12 keepers). I told them so in an email.

[blowfish89]

On the zuludiver natos, the last steel keeper (nearest to buckle) is movable, so you can adjust it to where you want it. Is it not the same for the seatbelt ones?

[hoppyjr]

On the zuludiver natos, the last steel keeper (nearest to buckle) is movable, so you can adjust it to where you want it. Is it not the same for the seatbelt ones?

It's not, thankfully.

I'm talking the space between the keepers nearest the watch head.


Most watches will certainly be under 54mm, especially in 20mm size. These are farther apart that the ones on a Maratac or Natostrapco. It lays on the wrist better when closer together.

[Jeep99dad]

That CWC is such a cool watch.


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[toxicavenger]

My WatchGecko seat belt natos arrived today. Here are some shots on PO and CWC.

This exact material with Terry's hardware (and old style non-spring bar buckle) would be outstanding. 50% thicker would be even better. The material is very soft, so heavier watches will sag unless pulled very tight. I believe these are 1.2 thick, but 1.8 would be ideal, and they'd still be soft.

Either way, they look great.

The one Timefactors sells in 1.5-1.6mm, so you might want to check it out. It is not very flexible when it is that thick. Also it barely makes it through the keepers if you fold it back.

I honestly will probably never carry a seatbelt material strap. It is to rich for my blood and it is hard enough getting people to pay $50 for a top notch Roo strap. I don't think I would sell many $30 natos.

[hoppyjr]

My WatchGecko seat belt natos arrived today. Here are some shots on PO and CWC.

This exact material with Terry's hardware (and old style non-spring bar buckle) would be outstanding. 50% thicker would be even better. The material is very soft, so heavier watches will sag unless pulled very tight. I believe these are 1.2 thick, but 1.8 would be ideal, and they'd still be soft.

Either way, they look great.

The one Timefactors sells in 1.5-1.6mm, so you might want to check it out. It is not very flexible when it is that thick. Also it barely makes it through the keepers if you fold it back.

I honestly will probably never carry a seatbelt material strap. It is to rich for my blood and it is hard enough getting people to pay $50 for a top notch Roo strap. I don't think I would sell many $30 natos.

Well, these work on the CWC and are "just ok" on the Planet Ocean, because of its weight. Maybe 1.5 could help that.

The Timefactors ones are same material?

These can make die until you do them perfectly

[toxicavenger]

[/quote]Well, these work on the CWC and are "just ok" on the Planet Ocean, because of its weight. Maybe 1.5 could help that.

The Timefactors ones are same material?

These can make die until you do them perfectly [/quote]
1.5mm might. I thought the TF one I bought had a rough finish around the buckle holes that I didn't like. But this material is finely woven it is gonna happen no matter what. To me I don't think it would have much longevity around the buckle holes. Then if you use a lighter on these they might really go to shit.

Blushark has a nice thick strap also. But like I said they just aren't what I can carry right now.

[hoppyjr]

^ funny you mention this. I just finished fitting a second "satin" finished one to my Precista. I noticed the hole I needed was already popping out and wouldn't be holding well, so I took it off. I'll be sending an email to WatchGecko to see how they want to handle it. If they expect me to ship it back to the UK on my dime, then they won't ever see me again. If they decide to send a replacement strap, I'll try to burn the hole and see how it holds up. Will advise, probably later in the week.

What I need is the stock Omega NATO for my PO

[Panerai7]

It's a prototype Ed. They'll probably just refund the money and move on.
Like I said that hole and seal machine is expensive and need to be used on that type of webbing. Not sure if Gecko uses it but BP/Omega does