Not Panerai but might be of some interest

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Not Panerai but might be of some interest

Post by caesarmascetti » Tue Dec 13, 2016 4:10 am

ok guys so I'm sure this isn't everyone's cup of tea but I wanted to share the experience. I wanted to try a full size Panerai, but wasn't thrilled with the direction the company has gone. I came across this company http://vintagewatchparts.co.uk/ and am glad I did. They built me a wonderful homage to a vintage Panerai I've had it about a year now and I love it. The crystal is plexi, the movement is a vintage Hamilton 917 pocket watch movement, the finishing is beautiful very well done. The gentleman that owns the place is very good communicating a really great experience. Enjoy some pics (sorry my pics suck) some of them are from the assembly process:

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Re: Not Panerai but might be of some interest

Post by mikeylacroix » Tue Dec 13, 2016 4:39 am

How's the case work?

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Post by caesarmascetti » Tue Dec 13, 2016 5:11 am

mikeylacroix wrote:How's the case work?
it's very good, he starts with good components then does most of the final finishing himself

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Post by streetracer101 » Tue Dec 13, 2016 6:02 am

Looks great. Price?

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Post by caesarmascetti » Tue Dec 13, 2016 6:35 am

streetracer101 wrote:Looks great. Price?

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all in including the movement (serviced cleaned etc...) about $1k

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Post by JP Chestnut » Tue Dec 13, 2016 6:42 am

caesarmascetti wrote:
streetracer101 wrote:Looks great. Price?

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all in including the movement (serviced cleaned etc...) about $1k
I would just wait another three years, until a real PAM costs a grand.

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Post by Panerai7 » Tue Dec 13, 2016 6:48 am

JP Chestnut wrote:
caesarmascetti wrote:
streetracer101 wrote:Looks great. Price?

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all in including the movement (serviced cleaned etc...) about $1k
I would just wait another three years, until a real PAM costs a grand.
Oh God don't say that :lol:

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Post by caesarmascetti » Tue Dec 13, 2016 6:49 am

JP Chestnut wrote:
caesarmascetti wrote:
streetracer101 wrote:Looks great. Price?

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all in including the movement (serviced cleaned etc...) about $1k
I would just wait another three years, until a real PAM costs a grand.

LOL true enough, but I love these old Hamilton 917 movements I have a Pilots watch with one as well, they're just beautiful.

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Post by JP Chestnut » Tue Dec 13, 2016 6:59 am

Panerai7 wrote:
JP Chestnut wrote:
caesarmascetti wrote:
streetracer101 wrote:Looks great. Price?

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all in including the movement (serviced cleaned etc...) about $1k
I would just wait another three years, until a real PAM costs a grand.
Oh God don't say that :lol:
I've become less pessimistic about good watches holding their value lately. Clearly the shitty models (of which there are many) will continue to tank, but something like a base PAM? I think it might hold value.

I look at the pre-ceramic Rolex market and things are so GD expensive ($10,000 for a nice complete LV Sub). At some point, people are going to start looking into the back catalog of other brands (vintage Speedmasters and Tudors have already jumped due to this) to get their "cooler than a current production" watch fix. It just seems inconceivable that an IWC 3227/3713/3536 will become $2,000 watches while a nice 14060M Sub sells for $7,500+.

Maybe I'm wrong and most people in this hobby really are stupid and brand obsessed, but I hope not. I suspect that when "trusted dealers" can no longer get Rolex on the cheap that they will start pumping Omegas, IWCs, Panerais, etc.

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Post by caesarmascetti » Tue Dec 13, 2016 7:13 am

I had a Panerai previously the titanium 305, and truthfully it left me kind of cold, I didn't have it long. I think this homage scratches my itch has that classic Pam look, a killer movement (not a PAM historian but didn't Panerai do this as well fit other movements into their watches early on?). No it's not a Panerai but I'm ok with that.

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Post by JP Chestnut » Tue Dec 13, 2016 7:20 am

I have a bit of a PAM itch right now. I'd love a 000 but my baby wrist makes that an impossibility.

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Post by logan2z » Tue Dec 13, 2016 7:22 am

caesarmascetti wrote:not a PAM historian but didn't Panerai do this as well fit other movements into their watches early on?
They did, Rolex, Angelus, etc. They used JLC movements in a handful of models not that many years ago too.

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Post by logan2z » Tue Dec 13, 2016 7:24 am

JP Chestnut wrote:I have a bit of a PAM itch right now. I'd love a 000 but my baby wrist makes that an impossibility.
How about a 512? 42mm 1940 Radiomir case. My wife has a puny wrist and she wears one regularly.

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Post by Panerai7 » Tue Dec 13, 2016 7:26 am

JP Chestnut wrote:I have a bit of a PAM itch right now. I'd love a 000 but my baby wrist makes that an impossibility.
One of my close friends had 112 (like 000 with sandwich dial) on his 6.5" wrist and it looked great I thought.

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Post by JP Chestnut » Tue Dec 13, 2016 7:27 am

logan2z wrote:
JP Chestnut wrote:I have a bit of a PAM itch right now. I'd love a 000 but my baby wrist makes that an impossibility.
How about a 512? 42mm 1940 Radiomir case. My wife has a puny wrist and she wears one regularly.
I'll check it out. Thanks!

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Post by logan2z » Tue Dec 13, 2016 7:28 am

Panerai7 wrote:
JP Chestnut wrote:I have a bit of a PAM itch right now. I'd love a 000 but my baby wrist makes that an impossibility.
One of my close friends had 112 (like 000 with sandwich dial) on his 6.5" wrist and it looked great I thought.
The 112 is another great one that sadly has been discontinued.

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Post by caesarmascetti » Tue Dec 13, 2016 7:36 am

so what does a nice condition Pam 000 go for with boxes and papers these days?

and does it use a Unitas movement?
6497?

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Post by logan2z » Tue Dec 13, 2016 8:02 am

caesarmascetti wrote:so what does a nice condition Pam 000 go for with boxes and papers these days?

and does it use a Unitas movement?
6497?
They typically go for just under $4K. And yes on the Unitas movement.

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Post by Morethan1 » Tue Dec 13, 2016 9:03 am

This is really cool but the price... =S
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Post by pbj204 » Tue Dec 13, 2016 9:32 am

JP Chestnut wrote:I have a bit of a PAM itch right now. I'd love a 000 but my baby wrist makes that an impossibility.
42mm PAM 392 wears great on a smaller wrist

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Post by streetracer101 » Tue Dec 13, 2016 5:27 pm

caesarmascetti wrote:
streetracer101 wrote:Looks great. Price?

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all in including the movement (serviced cleaned etc...) about $1k
That actually seems fairly reasonable.

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Post by toxicavenger » Tue Dec 13, 2016 5:49 pm

Super cool watch. I really like that movement.

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Post by Axelay2003 » Tue Dec 13, 2016 5:54 pm

pbj204 wrote:
JP Chestnut wrote:I have a bit of a PAM itch right now. I'd love a 000 but my baby wrist makes that an impossibility.
42mm PAM 392 wears great on a smaller wrist

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Post by Jeep99dad » Tue Dec 13, 2016 6:32 pm

It looks great and the mvt is killer. Beats the mvt is the base pams 000, 005...
How's the case ?

I have the itch too :) but not the wallet for a Pam right now


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Post by kempoman » Tue Dec 13, 2016 8:58 pm

cool.
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