PAM 243, 24 or 25.... Which one and why?

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Re: PAM 243, 24 or 25.... Which one and why?

Post by blkgsl » Sat Mar 29, 2014 1:54 am

matt.wu wrote:243 wears large, but I find it the most interesting. A 44mm 305 would be my perfect sub.
Yes yes yes! Ideally with a ceramic bezel :).


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Re: PAM 243, 24 or 25.... Which one and why?

Post by giosdad » Sat Mar 29, 2014 4:40 am

I have owned the 24 and 243. I reacquired the 243 as I missed it the most and I felt it was the most interesting Panerai of the four I owned which all left the collection. (24, 243, 390 and 000)

I agree with all that has been said.

If you have a diverse collection the 243 is the way to go. If you have a small collection the 24 or 25 could be more versatile. The 243 has a smaller dial / bezel but it is taller and sits differently on the wrist. I have a 6.5 inch wrist and love the way it wears. No doubt it is a beast but on the newer style PAM rubber, the OEM Assolutamente or a properly sized custom strap I have worn mine comfortably for days. On a separate note the Automatic models wear more comfortably for me as they have a thicker case back and sit higher so the lugs don't rub against my wrist bone. I sold both manual models (390 and 000) with that being one of the factors. I did enjoy the 24 and only sold that as I knew I would prefer the 243.

Here are picture of my original 243 as the current one is being serviced.

Some shots I took of size perspective on what I consider a flat 6.5 inch wrist.

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Some more 243 eye candy

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Here are a few pictures of the 24

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Re: PAM 243, 24 or 25.... Which one and why?

Post by PGERRITY » Sat Mar 29, 2014 4:53 am

Thanks for the pics! They're both great looking watches but I agree that the 243 is the most interesting.

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PAM 243, 24 or 25.... Which one and why?

Post by koda240 » Sat Mar 29, 2014 8:16 am

The beveled, high polish bezel edge on the 243 is one thing that really adds some finishing to the watch. I love the 243 and i have had a 24 but in the end i would never choose 24/25 over a 243.

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Post by ericf4 » Sat Mar 29, 2014 9:28 am

243 the only option..

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Post by koda240 » Sat Mar 29, 2014 1:27 pm

While we're on the topic of 243, I don't understand why the T dial is supposedly so rare and therefore demanding of a premium yet every time I recon the 243 that is all I see for sale. I would like another 243, but want the most recent one I can get. I don't care about the T dial, but find it odd that there's far more of them for sale than an L series for example at any given time.

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Post by ericf4 » Sat Mar 29, 2014 1:31 pm

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Re: PAM 243, 24 or 25.... Which one and why?

Post by CGSshorty » Sat Mar 29, 2014 1:54 pm

koda240 wrote:While we're on the topic of 243, I don't understand why the T dial is supposedly so rare and therefore demanding of a premium yet every time I recon the 243 that is all I see for sale. I would like another 243, but want the most recent one I can get. I don't care about the T dial, but find it odd that there's far more of them for sale than an L series for example at any given time.
You see more T dials for sale because there were more of them made.
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Re: PAM 243, 24 or 25.... Which one and why?

Post by Panerai7 » Sat Mar 29, 2014 1:58 pm

T dial will flake and dust on the dial eventually.
So unless you're a purist even though 243 has nothing to do with pure Pam then get Luminova.
I love that myth of more desirable T

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Post by CGSshorty » Sat Mar 29, 2014 2:05 pm

Panerai7 wrote:T dial will flake and dust on the dial eventually.
So unless you're a purist even though 243 has nothing to do with pure Pam then get Luminova.
I love that myth of more desirable T
I owned a J, if I buy another it will be an L or M series.
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Re: PAM 243, 24 or 25.... Which one and why?

Post by Panerai7 » Sat Mar 29, 2014 2:08 pm

CGSshorty wrote:
Panerai7 wrote:T dial will flake and dust on the dial eventually.
So unless you're a purist even though 243 has nothing to do with pure Pam then get Luminova.
I love that myth of more desirable T
I owned a J, if I buy another it will be an L or M series.
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Re: PAM 243, 24 or 25.... Which one and why?

Post by koda240 » Sat Mar 29, 2014 9:06 pm

CGSshorty wrote:
Panerai7 wrote:T dial will flake and dust on the dial eventually.
So unless you're a purist even though 243 has nothing to do with pure Pam then get Luminova.
I love that myth of more desirable T
I owned a J, if I buy another it will be an L or M series.
Agree. Wish i hadnt gotten rid of my L series. It had a full service and new bezel. Arghh. The flip bug got me.

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Post by matt.wu » Sat Mar 29, 2014 9:28 pm

The T-dial is more desirable. It's not a myth. The reason is that even though there may be more now, over time, the general population will have them replaced with luminova service dials/hands, and all of the sudden t-dials that are well cared for are desirable.
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Post by blkgsl » Sat Mar 29, 2014 9:47 pm

matt.wu wrote:The T-dial is more desirable. It's not a myth. The reason is that even though there may be more now, over time, the general population will have them replaced with luminova service dials/hands, and all of the sudden t-dials that are well cared for are desirable.
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Post by Panerai7 » Sat Mar 29, 2014 9:51 pm

I guess one day in the future then they will be.
However 243 is not a Pam to look for with T, it'll never be a T- dial PreV or PreA.

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Post by matt.wu » Sat Mar 29, 2014 11:51 pm

Panerai7 wrote:I guess one day in the future then they will be.
However 243 is not a Pam to look for with T, it'll never be a T- dial PreV or PreA.
Yeah, but we're not talking about all Panerai. We were talking about 243s.
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Re: PAM 243, 24 or 25.... Which one and why?

Post by blkgsl » Sun Mar 30, 2014 12:26 am

Panerai7 wrote:I guess one day in the future then they will be.
However 243 is not a Pam to look for with T, it'll never be a T- dial PreV or PreA.
No, it'll always be a T dial 243 if you don't change it out :).

The desirability equation is simple - less T dials as time progresses means it will hold value better. Purists like the T dial, whether we personally agree or not (I prefer L myself).


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Re: PAM 243, 24 or 25.... Which one and why?

Post by matt.wu » Sun Mar 30, 2014 12:46 am

Nice to have lume sometimes... :)

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Re: PAM 243, 24 or 25.... Which one and why?

Post by blkgsl » Sun Mar 30, 2014 1:20 am

I personally never cared for tritium - I prefer the glow :). But that doesn't change what purists (and there are lots of Panerai colllectors who, right or wrong, consider themselves purists.

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Post by Panerai7 » Sun Mar 30, 2014 6:18 am

Zack stop teasing me with BP :)))

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Re: PAM 243, 24 or 25.... Which one and why?

Post by dukerules » Sun Mar 30, 2014 6:22 am

Tritium only for me. And the 243 is pretty cool in T dial configuration, as the indices have a lot of tritium real estate. Although I do understand people preferring L dials.

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Post by koda240 » Sun Mar 30, 2014 6:34 am

matt.wu wrote:The T-dial is more desirable. It's not a myth. The reason is that even though there may be more now, over time, the general population will have them replaced with luminova service dials/hands, and all of the sudden t-dials that are well cared for are desirable.
That makes sense. Thx m@

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Re: PAM 243, 24 or 25.... Which one and why?

Post by powboyz » Thu May 15, 2014 5:22 pm

243 all the way..... A little PloProf rubber and clasp helps to.......



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Re: PAM 243, 24 or 25.... Which one and why?

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giosdad wrote:I have owned the 24 and 243. I reacquired the 243 as I missed it the most and I felt it was the most interesting Panerai of the four I owned which all left the collection. (24, 243, 390 and 000)

I agree with all that has been said.

If you have a diverse collection the 243 is the way to go. If you have a small collection the 24 or 25 could be more versatile. The 243 has a smaller dial / bezel but it is taller and sits differently on the wrist. I have a 6.5 inch wrist and love the way it wears. No doubt it is a beast but on the newer style PAM rubber, the OEM Assolutamente or a properly sized custom strap I have worn mine comfortably for days. On a separate note the Automatic models wear more comfortably for me as they have a thicker case back and sit higher so the lugs don't rub against my wrist bone. I sold both manual models (390 and 000) with that being one of the factors. I did enjoy the 24 and only sold that as I knew I would prefer the 243.

Here are picture of my original 243 as the current one is being serviced.

Some shots I took of size perspective on what I consider a flat 6.5 inch wrist.

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Some more 243 eye candy

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Here are a few pictures of the 24

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Wow, I just saw that olive green vintage strap. Amazing! Could you tell me what brand/model it is? Or where you bought it.

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Re: PAM 243, 24 or 25.... Which one and why?

Post by giosdad » Mon Oct 26, 2015 7:09 pm

That is a Drew Canvas Strap. That one is made from military issued packs. Look at our strap forum and you will figure out who he is pretty quickly.
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