Panerai SIHH 2014

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Re: Panerai SIHH 2014

Post by JP Chestnut » Wed Jan 22, 2014 9:40 am

BBK357 wrote:Far from a Panerai fan and no knowledge but I loved these that I got on Instagram, really cool pieces-
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I like this one a lot. I'd never buy it because it's probably 55mmx20mm, but it looks nice.

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Re: Panerai SIHH 2014

Post by bzabodyn » Wed Jan 22, 2014 9:46 am

I like the 590 actually - the painted vintage lume markers/numbers has always been my favorite. The 8 Giorno should be reserved for LEs etc but this one doesn't have what it takes to "deserve" it - in my opinion.

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Re: Panerai SIHH 2014

Post by jswing » Thu Jan 23, 2014 8:19 am

JP Chestnut wrote:
BBK357 wrote:Far from a Panerai fan and no knowledge but I loved these that I got on Instagram, really cool pieces-
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I like this one a lot. I'd never buy it because it's probably 55mmx20mm, but it looks nice.
This is an odd duck - I like it, but AFAIK there is no precedent for syringe hands on a Panerai. Usually their styling cues come from some past model. But then again, they certainly weren't making a chrono in 1940.
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Re: Panerai SIHH 2014

Post by jswing » Thu Jan 23, 2014 8:20 am

dukerules wrote:PAM 590 (not an SIHH release, but a North American boutique edition) is intriguing, but I don't really understand the point. It would be much better with a 3 on the dial. It's almost as if OP is just throwing components in a mixer and producing whatever comes out.
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Oh no, they're making a 203 homage? :banghead: Not very well I might add.

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Re: Panerai SIHH 2014

Post by JP Chestnut » Thu Jan 23, 2014 8:21 am

jswing wrote:
JP Chestnut wrote:
BBK357 wrote:Far from a Panerai fan and no knowledge but I loved these that I got on Instagram, really cool pieces-
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I like this one a lot. I'd never buy it because it's probably 55mmx20mm, but it looks nice.
This is an odd duck - I like it, but AFAIK there is no precedent for syringe hands on a Panerai. Usually their styling cues come from some past model.
Probably why I like it!

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Re: Panerai SIHH 2014

Post by JP Chestnut » Thu Jan 23, 2014 8:22 am

jswing wrote:
dukerules wrote:PAM 590 (not an SIHH release, but a North American boutique edition) is intriguing, but I don't really understand the point. It would be much better with a 3 on the dial. It's almost as if OP is just throwing components in a mixer and producing whatever comes out.
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Oh no, they're making a 203 homage? :banghead: Not very well I might add.
If they're going to stick with the fake vintage piss-lume, they should at least use piss-ink for the text so it looks old as well.

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Post by Panerai7 » Thu Jan 23, 2014 9:56 am

^^good point

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Post by CGSshorty » Thu Jan 23, 2014 10:00 am

JP Chestnut wrote:
jswing wrote:
dukerules wrote:PAM 590 (not an SIHH release, but a North American boutique edition) is intriguing, but I don't really understand the point. It would be much better with a 3 on the dial. It's almost as if OP is just throwing components in a mixer and producing whatever comes out.
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Oh no, they're making a 203 homage? :banghead: Not very well I might add.
If they're going to stick with the fake vintage piss-lume, they should at least use piss-ink for the text so it looks old as well.
If you look at most old(ish) Panerai, the lume turns color but the text does not. I think they are Right to stick with white text. That being said, I have no love for all the vintage like they have been using.
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Re: Panerai SIHH 2014

Post by JP Chestnut » Thu Jan 23, 2014 10:11 am

CGSshorty wrote:
JP Chestnut wrote:
jswing wrote:
dukerules wrote:PAM 590 (not an SIHH release, but a North American boutique edition) is intriguing, but I don't really understand the point. It would be much better with a 3 on the dial. It's almost as if OP is just throwing components in a mixer and producing whatever comes out.
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Oh no, they're making a 203 homage? :banghead: Not very well I might add.
If they're going to stick with the fake vintage piss-lume, they should at least use piss-ink for the text so it looks old as well.
If you look at most old(ish) Panerai, the lume turns color but the text does not. I think they are Right to stick with white text. That being said, I have no love for all the vintage like they have been using.
Does it not change at all, or not as much? Because the text on a vintage Rolex can often appear white next to the aged lume, but has clearly yellowed next to a newer watch.

Also, are we talking about the semi-"vintage" PAMs, or the true vintage models?

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Re: Panerai SIHH 2014

Post by CGSshorty » Thu Jan 23, 2014 10:32 am

JP Chestnut wrote:
CGSshorty wrote:
JP Chestnut wrote:
jswing wrote:
dukerules wrote:PAM 590 (not an SIHH release, but a North American boutique edition) is intriguing, but I don't really understand the point. It would be much better with a 3 on the dial. It's almost as if OP is just throwing components in a mixer and producing whatever comes out.
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Oh no, they're making a 203 homage? :banghead: Not very well I might add.
If they're going to stick with the fake vintage piss-lume, they should at least use piss-ink for the text so it looks old as well.
If you look at most old(ish) Panerai, the lume turns color but the text does not. I think they are Right to stick with white text. That being said, I have no love for all the vintage like they have been using.
Does it not change at all, or not as much? Because the text on a vintage Rolex can often appear white next to the aged lume, but has clearly yellowed next to a newer watch.

Also, are we talking about the semi-"vintage" PAMs, or the true vintage models?
Even in the true vintage stuff you see aged lume and white text. It degrades, but doesn't turn the same color as the lume. I think it would look terrible if the script matches the lume on the new stuff.
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Re: Panerai SIHH 2014

Post by jswing » Thu Jan 23, 2014 10:34 am

JP Chestnut wrote:
CGSshorty wrote:
JP Chestnut wrote:
jswing wrote:
dukerules wrote:PAM 590 (not an SIHH release, but a North American boutique edition) is intriguing, but I don't really understand the point. It would be much better with a 3 on the dial. It's almost as if OP is just throwing components in a mixer and producing whatever comes out.
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Oh no, they're making a 203 homage? :banghead: Not very well I might add.
If they're going to stick with the fake vintage piss-lume, they should at least use piss-ink for the text so it looks old as well.
If you look at most old(ish) Panerai, the lume turns color but the text does not. I think they are Right to stick with white text. That being said, I have no love for all the vintage like they have been using.
Does it not change at all, or not as much? Because the text on a vintage Rolex can often appear white next to the aged lume, but has clearly yellowed next to a newer watch.

Also, are we talking about the semi-"vintage" PAMs, or the true vintage models?
Here's a 50s vintage, made for the Egyptian navy, and presumably what this new one is loosely based on. Well, this and the 203. The text still looks pretty white.

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Re: Panerai SIHH 2014

Post by JP Chestnut » Thu Jan 23, 2014 10:45 am

jswing wrote:
JP Chestnut wrote:
CGSshorty wrote:
JP Chestnut wrote:
jswing wrote:
dukerules wrote:PAM 590 (not an SIHH release, but a North American boutique edition) is intriguing, but I don't really understand the point. It would be much better with a 3 on the dial. It's almost as if OP is just throwing components in a mixer and producing whatever comes out.
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Oh no, they're making a 203 homage? :banghead: Not very well I might add.
If they're going to stick with the fake vintage piss-lume, they should at least use piss-ink for the text so it looks old as well.
If you look at most old(ish) Panerai, the lume turns color but the text does not. I think they are Right to stick with white text. That being said, I have no love for all the vintage like they have been using.
Does it not change at all, or not as much? Because the text on a vintage Rolex can often appear white next to the aged lume, but has clearly yellowed next to a newer watch.

Also, are we talking about the semi-"vintage" PAMs, or the true vintage models?
Here's a 50s vintage, made for the Egyptian navy, and presumably what this new one is loosely based on. Well, this and the 203. The text still looks pretty white.

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Thanks for the photo. I don't think the text/lume mismatch is nearly as vivid on the old watch as it is on the new one.

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Re: Panerai SIHH 2014

Post by jswing » Thu Jan 23, 2014 10:58 am

JP Chestnut wrote:
jswing wrote:
JP Chestnut wrote:
CGSshorty wrote:
JP Chestnut wrote:
jswing wrote:
dukerules wrote:PAM 590 (not an SIHH release, but a North American boutique edition) is intriguing, but I don't really understand the point. It would be much better with a 3 on the dial. It's almost as if OP is just throwing components in a mixer and producing whatever comes out.
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Oh no, they're making a 203 homage? :banghead: Not very well I might add.
If they're going to stick with the fake vintage piss-lume, they should at least use piss-ink for the text so it looks old as well.
If you look at most old(ish) Panerai, the lume turns color but the text does not. I think they are Right to stick with white text. That being said, I have no love for all the vintage like they have been using.
Does it not change at all, or not as much? Because the text on a vintage Rolex can often appear white next to the aged lume, but has clearly yellowed next to a newer watch.

Also, are we talking about the semi-"vintage" PAMs, or the true vintage models?
Here's a 50s vintage, made for the Egyptian navy, and presumably what this new one is loosely based on. Well, this and the 203. The text still looks pretty white.

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Thanks for the photo. I don't think the text/lume mismatch is nearly as vivid on the old watch as it is on the new one.
I don't disagree, but this may not have been the best example of a vintage PAM, the hands and indices don't look all that faded either.

This 590 is just a mess all around IMO. As Rahul said, lately it looks like they just throw some vintage or pre-v component on a watch and give it a new model #. I like some of their models, no question, but as a brand I think they've jumped the shark.

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Post by bzabodyn » Thu Jan 23, 2014 5:41 pm

Definitely nothing that would make me consider getting rid of my 233 for it...

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Post by DAVIDSWdan » Thu Dec 18, 2014 6:56 pm

Guess I have to wait another year for a 44mm bronzo. My dream watch.
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