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Re: Omega Seamster coaxial

Post by JP Chestnut » Mon Oct 27, 2014 11:41 am

jeckyll wrote:Hoppy, do 3 x1/2 link not equal 1 full and 1 x 1/2 link?
Or is Omega math different than normal math :-)
Not for the older 2254/Speedmaster bracelets. Two "half links" is slightly longer than a single full link - the difference is about half the distance between the micro adjustment holes on a Speedmaster clasp. Three half links would be around 1 and 3/4 links.

On edit: I really like these and would probably own one were it an update of the 2254 (Speedmaster style bracelet and sword hands) rather than the Bond version (bling bracelet and skeleton hands).

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Re: Omega Seamaster coaxial

Post by hoppyjr » Mon Oct 27, 2014 11:55 am

JP Chestnut wrote:
jeckyll wrote:
On edit: I really like these and would probably own one were it an update of the 2254 (Speedmaster style bracelet and sword hands) rather than the Bond version (bling bracelet and skeleton hands).
I bet we see an updated version of the 2254 next year. I have no inside info, but it makes sense.

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Re: Omega Seamaster coaxial

Post by JP Chestnut » Mon Oct 27, 2014 12:52 pm

hoppyjr wrote:
JP Chestnut wrote:
jeckyll wrote:
On edit: I really like these and would probably own one were it an update of the 2254 (Speedmaster style bracelet and sword hands) rather than the Bond version (bling bracelet and skeleton hands).
I bet we see an updated version of the 2254 next year. I have no inside info, but it makes sense.
That would make sense, now that they've updated the Speedy bracelet to use screws.

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Post by Panerai7 » Mon Oct 27, 2014 1:17 pm

JP Chestnut wrote:
hoppyjr wrote:
JP Chestnut wrote:
jeckyll wrote:
On edit: I really like these and would probably own one were it an update of the 2254 (Speedmaster style bracelet and sword hands) rather than the Bond version (bling bracelet and skeleton hands).
I bet we see an updated version of the 2254 next year. I have no inside info, but it makes sense.
That would make sense, now that they've updated the Speedy bracelet to use screws.
2254 with ceramic bezel and updated movement would rock
I bet it'd sell like crazy and become one of Omega's best selling watches.

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Post by Terpits » Mon Oct 27, 2014 1:30 pm

jtbenson wrote:i've been watching the price drop on these also.
my solution: ditch the bracelet for the oem nato---problem solved (not my pic):

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Re: Omega Seamaster coaxial

Post by JP Chestnut » Mon Oct 27, 2014 4:08 pm

Panerai7 wrote:
JP Chestnut wrote:
hoppyjr wrote:
JP Chestnut wrote:
jeckyll wrote:
On edit: I really like these and would probably own one were it an update of the 2254 (Speedmaster style bracelet and sword hands) rather than the Bond version (bling bracelet and skeleton hands).
I bet we see an updated version of the 2254 next year. I have no inside info, but it makes sense.
That would make sense, now that they've updated the Speedy bracelet to use screws.
2254 with ceramic bezel and updated movement would rock
I bet it'd sell like crazy and become one of Omega's best selling watches.
I wonder about Omega's product people. They have very few newish watches that have had enduring appeal and the 2254 was one of them. A modern update would seem a no brainer to me.

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Re: Omega Seamaster coaxial

Post by hoppyjr » Mon Oct 27, 2014 4:21 pm

I also think they could do a Rolex Explorer 1 type watch and do well. Use the old AquaTerra case, but 2500d movement, with a dial/handset that isn't as dressy as the AT line. Maybe a matte dial, Arabic numbers, decent lume, and sword hands. I think it would be popular and could be done with existing catalog parts, with the exception of a unique dial. Price it around $3k and watch it go.

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Post by JP Chestnut » Mon Oct 27, 2014 4:49 pm

hoppyjr wrote:I also think they could do a Rolex Explorer 1 type watch and do well. Use the old AquaTerra case, but 2500d movement, with a dial/handset that isn't as dressy as the AT line. Maybe a matte dial, Arabic numbers, decent lume, and sword hands. I think it would be popular and could be done with existing catalog parts, with the exception of a unique dial. Price it around $3k and watch it go.
Wouldn't that be a Railmaster - is that model discontinued now? In any case, it was an underrated Omega. I'd love for them to release a version that looked like the huge XXL version, but in a normal sized case

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Omega Seamaster coaxial

Post by hoppyjr » Mon Oct 27, 2014 4:53 pm

The Railmaster was a nice piece, with crappy marketing and message. Poor choice of name too. Market my idea as the perfect "every day" watch. Bracelet or strap options, good lume, simple and legible dial, plain bezel, stainless steel.

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Post by Panerai7 » Mon Oct 27, 2014 5:26 pm

I always admired railmaster in pics until I saw it at a dealer. It's 49mm or something crazy like that.

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Post by marchone » Mon Oct 27, 2014 5:29 pm

Railroads are passe.
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Post by hoppyjr » Mon Oct 27, 2014 5:32 pm

marchone wrote:Railroads are passe.
No joke, I like the looks of the watch but when I think "rail" I think Amtrak, which makes me think government, which makes me angry.

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Post by marchone » Mon Oct 27, 2014 5:39 pm

We have to thank the railroads for developing the need for accurate timepieces but so much has gone on since. The Speedmaster is still going strong due in large part to the moon landing. The irony is today's watch technology far exceeds the needs for personal accurate timekeeping. Using one that heeds to past needs like 47mm railroad and pilot's pieces is no more than a conceit.
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Post by JP Chestnut » Mon Oct 27, 2014 6:31 pm

Panerai7 wrote:I always admired railmaster in pics until I saw it at a dealer. It's 49mm or something crazy like that.
They had a few sizes, ranging from "kind of big" to "what we're they thinking".

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Re: Omega Seamaster coaxial

Post by JP Chestnut » Mon Oct 27, 2014 6:32 pm

hoppyjr wrote:
marchone wrote:Railroads are passe.
No joke, I like the looks of the watch but when I think "rail" I think Amtrak, which makes me think government, which makes me angry.
Railmaster sounds like the nickname of someone who's good at snorting speed.

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Post by JBZ » Tue Oct 28, 2014 6:00 am

hoppyjr wrote:
marchone wrote:Railroads are passe.
No joke, I like the looks of the watch but when I think "rail" I think Amtrak, which makes me think government, which makes me angry.
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Re: Omega Seamster coaxial

Post by Joeprez » Tue Oct 28, 2014 6:39 am

smalls wrote:
jeckyll wrote:Hoppy, do 3 x1/2 link not equal 1 full and 1 x 1/2 link?
Or is Omega math different than normal math :-)
The 1/2 link on the 2500 PO isn't exactly a 1/2. I Believe it's a touch longer.
If so... I need another half link.
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Re: Omega Seamaster coaxial

Post by hoppyjr » Tue Oct 28, 2014 9:42 am

Joeprez wrote:
smalls wrote:
jeckyll wrote:Hoppy, do 3 x1/2 link not equal 1 full and 1 x 1/2 link?
Or is Omega math different than normal math :-)
The 1/2 link on the 2500 PO isn't exactly a 1/2. I Believe it's a touch longer.
If so... I need another half link.
I'm not making this shit up pal, two half-links can help achieve the perfect fit on Omega bracelets. I've been doing that since 2006.

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Re: Omega Seamaster coaxial

Post by JP Chestnut » Tue Oct 28, 2014 9:53 am

hoppyjr wrote:
Joeprez wrote:
smalls wrote:
jeckyll wrote:Hoppy, do 3 x1/2 link not equal 1 full and 1 x 1/2 link?
Or is Omega math different than normal math :-)
The 1/2 link on the 2500 PO isn't exactly a 1/2. I Believe it's a touch longer.
If so... I need another half link.
I'm not making this shit up pal, two half-links can help achieve the perfect fit on Omega bracelets. I've been doing that since 2006.
You are absolutely correct. I went from one full link and the outer micro adjust to two half links and the inner micro adjust - the fit was slightly tighter than one full link in the outer hole, but less tight than one full link in the inner hole. This was on my Speedmaster, but I'm sure it's the same for the divers as well. I think everyone should try 1, 2, 3, or 4 half links before deciding the bracelet can't be made to fit.

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Re: Omega Seamaster coaxial

Post by Joeprez » Tue Oct 28, 2014 10:48 am

hoppyjr wrote:
Joeprez wrote:
smalls wrote:
jeckyll wrote:Hoppy, do 3 x1/2 link not equal 1 full and 1 x 1/2 link?
Or is Omega math different than normal math :-)
The 1/2 link on the 2500 PO isn't exactly a 1/2. I Believe it's a touch longer.
If so... I need another half link.
I'm not making this shit up pal, two half-links can help achieve the perfect fit on Omega bracelets. I've been doing that since 2006.
I definitely need one... without half links I got a tight fit (great in the morning, tighter at the end of the day). Added a half link and its a little too lose... so removing a full link and adding another half link should do the trick. Thanks!

Now, if anyone has an extra half link for a PO 42mm, let me know. :grin:
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Re: Omega Seamaster coaxial

Post by hoppyjr » Tue Oct 28, 2014 10:49 am

Joeprez wrote:
hoppyjr wrote:
Joeprez wrote:
smalls wrote:
jeckyll wrote:Hoppy, do 3 x1/2 link not equal 1 full and 1 x 1/2 link?
Or is Omega math different than normal math :-)
The 1/2 link on the 2500 PO isn't exactly a 1/2. I Believe it's a touch longer.
If so... I need another half link.
I'm not making this shit up pal, two half-links can help achieve the perfect fit on Omega bracelets. I've been doing that since 2006.
I definitely need one... without half links I got a tight fit (great in the morning, tighter at the end of the day). Added a half link and its a little too lose... so removing a full link and adding another half link should do the trick. Thanks!

Now, if anyone has an extra half link for a PO 42mm, let me know. :grin:
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Re: Omega Seamaster coaxial

Post by jeckyll » Tue Oct 28, 2014 11:10 am

hoppyjr wrote:
Joeprez wrote:
smalls wrote:
jeckyll wrote:Hoppy, do 3 x1/2 link not equal 1 full and 1 x 1/2 link?
Or is Omega math different than normal math :-)
The 1/2 link on the 2500 PO isn't exactly a 1/2. I Believe it's a touch longer.
If so... I need another half link.
I'm not making this shit up pal, two half-links can help achieve the perfect fit on Omega bracelets. I've been doing that since 2006.

Yeah, the fact that Omega customers have to deal with that vs just having micro-adjustments ... I don't get that. :)
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Re: Omega Seamaster coaxial

Post by moishlashen » Tue Oct 28, 2014 11:14 am

I'm a veteran of the "Half link" boogie :dance:

My favorite iteration started with the applied indices (and the co-ax).



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Re: Omega Seamaster coaxial

Post by Joeprez » Tue Oct 28, 2014 11:20 am

hoppyjr wrote:
Joeprez wrote:
hoppyjr wrote:
Joeprez wrote:
smalls wrote:
jeckyll wrote:Hoppy, do 3 x1/2 link not equal 1 full and 1 x 1/2 link?
Or is Omega math different than normal math :-)
The 1/2 link on the 2500 PO isn't exactly a 1/2. I Believe it's a touch longer.
If so... I need another half link.
I'm not making this shit up pal, two half-links can help achieve the perfect fit on Omega bracelets. I've been doing that since 2006.
I definitely need one... without half links I got a tight fit (great in the morning, tighter at the end of the day). Added a half link and its a little too lose... so removing a full link and adding another half link should do the trick. Thanks!

Now, if anyone has an extra half link for a PO 42mm, let me know. :grin:
Ofrei is easiest.
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Re: Omega Seamaster coaxial

Post by blkgsl » Wed Oct 29, 2014 5:21 am

hoppyjr wrote:I also think they could do a Rolex Explorer 1 type watch and do well. Use the old AquaTerra case, but 2500d movement, with a dial/handset that isn't as dressy as the AT line. Maybe a matte dial, Arabic numbers, decent lume, and sword hands. I think it would be popular and could be done with existing catalog parts, with the exception of a unique dial. Price it around $3k and watch it go.
You just asked for a 4.5-5k watch :). Besides that, I agree. I actually prefer the 2500s to the 8500s. Omega in house is just too thick.

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